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ggrimm01
Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2008-05-22 1:44 PM (#84478)
Subject: Biodiesel


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Is a person commiting a crime if you make your own biodiesel and running this in your vehicles? whether the vehicle is a farm truck or regular passenger car.

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2008-05-22 3:36 PM (#84487 - in reply to #84478)
Subject: RE: Biodiesel


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 I would imagine so.... The govt. wants there taxes and they're not getting them if you are brewing your on Bio juice... Are you going to tell on yourself? LOL!! I didn't think so!!
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-05-23 1:45 AM (#84526 - in reply to #84478)
Subject: RE: Biodiesel


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Yes, if you don't submit your road tax monies...and they have started to cross-check those who are purchasing quantities of methanol against road taxes monies...

Here is a site which has everything you want to know about biodiesel...:D

http://www.biodiesel.org/

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inWA
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2008-05-23 4:15 PM (#84576 - in reply to #84478)
Subject: RE: Biodiesel


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Yes, you are suppose to pay road taxes. Although it may take while to catch up with you and may never do it. I would think that if it is 250 gallons the chances are small. For folks that that is all they run it is probaly more of a gamble.
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califhorseman
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-05-23 9:57 PM (#84588 - in reply to #84478)
Subject: RE: Biodiesel


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Paul,

Thanks for the website. We are going to check out the priceof B20 at a station near our work

 

Jeff

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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2008-05-24 11:06 PM (#84618 - in reply to #84478)
Subject: RE: Biodiesel



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Luckily the Boi Diesel you make is not dyed red. So if you are stoped and have your fuel tank "Dipped" it won't show red.  So it will be a lot harder for the law enforcement to know that the fuel you are using has not been taxed.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-05-25 1:22 AM (#84621 - in reply to #84618)
Subject: RE: Biodiesel


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Originally written by Painted Horse on 2008-05-24 12:06 AM

Luckily the Boi Diesel you make is not dyed red. So if you are stoped and have your fuel tank "Dipped" it won't show red.  So it will be a lot harder for the law enforcement to know that the fuel you are using has not been taxed.

Based on the smell, they can ask you to produce either a fuel receipt or your tax receipt...Consider yourself warned...Uncle Sam is looking for all of the revenue he can find...

But then again I just got this...

Another problem is that when you try to register with the IRS to pay these federal road taxes (to say nothing of the state side), most people are TURNED DOWN. This happened to me personally, I have the rejection letter from the IRS. It's form 637 "registration to file certain excise taxes"...you're supposed to file on form 720 - IF you've been approved via the 637 application. I told them exactly what my business was doing (and our customers) and they said that there was no tax for that. I've asked other IRS people and they said there is a tax. We even invited the IRS to take a look at what we're doing. They came out and looked at everything, then left saying they'd get back to us about the vegetable oil stuff, but never did.

So clearly, the IRS doesn't know what it's doing. The day that they put clear guidance in writing is the day I'll fully comply with whatever they say to do - and then lobby for change. But until they can't be clear about what the law is today, they cannot expect compliance.

At the state level, Texas (and California) define biodiesel as 'wholly or partially derived from vegetable oil', which includes SVO/WVO. Since Texas exempts "biodiesel" from road taxes (40 cents, I think), we don't have to pay it.

Jason Burroughs
DieselGreen Fuels
512-391-0569
www.dieselgreenfuels.com



Edited by PaulChristenson 2008-05-25 1:52 AM
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