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lindszo
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-03-31 6:57 PM (#80840)
Subject: Getting ready to order. Do I need?



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I am getting ready to order my Dream trailer, 3h LQ.  A few questions.

1. It weighs appx. 9900     would you upgrade from the 6000# axles to 7000# ?

2. As an option you can enclose the battery and propane area.  Yes or No

3. Upgrade holding tank to 27 gallon and water to 40 gallon....... not sure what standard was

4. Rumber floor?  I know this was discussed.

5. Furnace or not ..... we are in Co. so even in summer in gets cool at night.

6. hydraulic jack

7. stereo, probably not but resale??

8. microwave, probably

Thoughts........ I don't want to go way over budget but at the same time I will probably never do this again.

I did decide to go with the mid tack.

Thanks,

Lindsay

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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-03-31 6:59 PM (#80842 - in reply to #80840)
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Yes to all.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-03-31 7:06 PM (#80844 - in reply to #80840)
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Ditto to all. Additional height? Spare tire? Loading lights? Escape door? Outside speakers? Awning? Outside faucet? Insulated stall area?

Gard

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lindszo
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-03-31 7:17 PM (#80847 - in reply to #80844)
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it is 7'6'' tall        1 1/2" insulated full trailer ( is that enough?)    escape door.. yes   outside faucet and receptacle ... yes   Outside speakers if I get the stereo    Spare tire..yes   loading light ..yes  and I already added the awining after reading previous posts :)

Thanks,

Lindsay

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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-03-31 7:27 PM (#80848 - in reply to #80840)
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2 spares, and get them both mounted to the trailer.  I had to "engineer" a 2nd mount for mine after the fact.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-03-31 7:27 PM (#80849 - in reply to #80840)
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You're ready to order one hell of a trailer. Doing it right in the beginning, makes for a long, enjoyable ownership. Good job!

Gard

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greyhorse
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-03-31 8:39 PM (#80852 - in reply to #80840)
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I would do everything but the enclosed battery and propane.
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lindszo
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Posted 2008-03-31 8:59 PM (#80853 - in reply to #80852)
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Why not the enclosed battery and propane?  Just wondering.  My hsuband says it is covered anyway being under the gooseneck but.....

Lindsay

It's not the destination, it's the trail

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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2008-03-31 9:25 PM (#80854 - in reply to #80840)
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How muh does enclosing the propane and Battery cost.  It will give you some extra storage. Besides the propane and battery. A place to put some tools, A way to lock up the batteries and propane.

If you keep adding all the extras, Yes to the axle upgrade.   It's much cheaper to buy replacement tires in the "Load Range E" than to replace Load Range "G" Tires. But most of us only buy new tires every 3-4 years. At 10,000lb for the trailer + 3 horses =3300lbs + 1000lbs of tack & gear + 1000 lbs of personal gear & food = 15,300lbs 25% on truck gooseneck  leaves 11,475 on the trailer axles.  two 6000 axles = 12,000.  So you have no room for extras. I'd upgrade the axles.

The bigger holding tank will probably reduce your ground clearance. Will you ever drive down Forest Service or BLM roads dirt roads?  If you never leave the pavement, Your fine, but if you venture off road, I'd see what effect it has on ground clearance. Besides the bigger tanks add to your weight.

Rumber - I love it.

Furnace - No question

You will want some help jacking up a 15,000lb loaded trailer.  Hydraulic is great. Electric is better than hand cranking

Stereo is not that expensive and it's nice.  I enjoy listening to a audio book while I hang around waiting to go to bed.

Microwave - Yes

 

 

 

 

 

 

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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2008-03-31 9:46 PM (#80856 - in reply to #80840)
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Originally written by lindszo on 2008-03-31 6:57 PM

I am getting ready to order my Dream trailer, 3h LQ.  A few questions.

1. It weighs appx. 9900     would you upgrade from the 6000# axles to 7000# ?

2. As an option you can enclose the battery and propane area.  Yes or No

3. Upgrade holding tank to 27 gallon and water to 40 gallon....... not sure what standard was

4. Rumber floor?  I know this was discussed.

5. Furnace or not ..... we are in Co. so even in summer in gets cool at night.

6. hydraulic jack

7. stereo, probably not but resale??

8. microwave, probably

Thoughts........ I don't want to go way over budget but at the same time I will probably never do this again.

I did decide to go with the mid tack.

Thanks,

Lindsay

It's not the destination, it's the Trail

You don't want to go over budget, but what is it? How much do all the upgrades cost? You have to decide what you want and can afford. If you are talking price is no problem, then get it all, but if price is being considered get the furnace, jack, stereo and microwave.
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lindszo
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-03-31 9:54 PM (#80858 - in reply to #80854)
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$520 to enclose the front, battery and propane.  I will be going down BLM roads so had not thought about the clearance with the larger holding tank.

This is why this site is so great.  It brings up things that I hadn't thought about.

Thanks so much for all the help.  Don't stop now.

 

Lindsay

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bechack
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2008-03-31 11:10 PM (#80861 - in reply to #80840)
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Spend another $500 and have the trailer lifted especially if you plan on "off roading"

 

 

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Dan Mefford
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-04-01 5:42 AM (#80869 - in reply to #80840)
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As to holding tank and water storage.  Get all you can.  There is never enough room.

Electric Jack, you will never regret it.

Stereo, maybe it will work for a year or two.....

Hayrack on top?  Great for storage, or you can buy ours later hayrak.com .  Probably easier to buy it already on there.

Regards, Danl



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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-04-01 8:12 AM (#80877 - in reply to #80840)
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All of it. Definite on the axles. On the holding tank hanging lower, ask about that. I have seen them wider and longer also, so more capacity doesn't necessarily mean less clearance. Sounds like you have it all planned out. Enjoy your new trailer!
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greyhorse
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-04-01 9:57 AM (#80883 - in reply to #80840)
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The only reason I wouldn't get the enclosed battery and propane is that it's harder to get the bottles out to refill and harder to get to the batteries to service. The batteries aren't that big a deal but depending on how the bottles are put in it can be a real pain to get them out to refill.
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twoeyedjack
Reg. Oct 2007
Posted 2008-04-01 10:50 AM (#80888 - in reply to #80840)
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In reading your original post one thing caught my attention was the axles I'd be a little more than concerned about a company that would built a 3H 8 Wide midtack LQ trailer with 6000 lb axles. 7000 lb should be standard on that size trailer. Especially depending on the short wall of the LQ. Also, does the weigh of 9900 lbs included the finished LQ? Depending on the brand of trailer you are purchasing you cannot access the enclosed front end when it is hooked up to your truck, there is not enough room.Just a few things to think about. Wouldn't want the trailer of your dreams to turn into a nightmare! Good luck!
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Dunoir
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2008-04-01 10:53 AM (#80889 - in reply to #80840)
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Hydraulic jack is much better than electric

Jaloucie windows are really nice as they crank out and if it rains, it doesn't get inside the trailer.  Wish I had them on my trailer.

 

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dixie
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2008-04-01 11:25 AM (#80890 - in reply to #80840)
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Twoeyed is right you need bigger axles than that. And also depending on what brand trailer it is the enclosed neck can be more of a pain than a help because some brands you don't have enough room to open the enclosure when you are hooked to the trailer as twoeyed said. Basicly the enclosed neck looks nice, but if it isn't done right it is down right aggrevating. My trailer has it but it has sliding doors so it works real well when hooked to the truck I would research how they would do it on your trailer before odering that option. But I would definately get the bigger axles.

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flyinghfarm
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2008-04-01 12:03 PM (#80892 - in reply to #80840)
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I wouldn't have to have the enclosed front, but yes to all else, and have it lifted 3".  If you can arrange an onboard generator with remote start in the LQ, you will like that, as well.... good luck on your new trailer, you will love and enjoy it immensely!
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ponytammy
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2008-04-01 12:48 PM (#80893 - in reply to #80840)
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Yes to all listed, but enclosing the front.

  • I'd enclose the battery box inside a stainless steel box, but just use double propane tank cover to keep the tanks clean. Easy to unzip to turn the propane on and off.
  • If it is a 10ft shortwall or larger, I'd go with the ducted air and heat too. Doesn't cost too much more and cools and heats your trailer evenly.
  • I wish I'd have gotten the Microwave/convection oven option, but it wasn't in my budget at the time.
  • Also, if you are not ready for a generator, I'd have it wired for one just in case you want to add one later (another thing I wish we'd did). If you go this route, make sure you get the back tack door or manager door with the grill.
  • And add a light inside and hooks inside the manager too if it does not come with them. Helps when setting up camp and night and trying to find something that you have stored in there.
  • Drops on head and hips for horses comfort. Or stock with removable plexi on hips. This increases air flow.

Are you also getting a walk-thru door from the LQ to the mid-tack and then from the mid-tack to the horse compartment? This would give you a bonus area when you get to your camping destination to store stuff like hay, wet pads, buckets etc in the horse compartment without putting into your mid-tack. At least get a walk-through from your mid-tack so you can take off muddy shoes/clothes without getting too much dirt in your LQ. And it is handy to wipe off little paws too if you take a dog.

Oh so many options and choices. You might have to number all these items in order of importance to you and then pick which ones can be done later. Happy trailer designing.

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Cloud9
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2008-04-01 7:38 PM (#80917 - in reply to #80840)
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I have a 2005 Bison Trailer with much of what your dream trailer list has.

1] Axles - 7,000 lb for sure mine are 7500
2] enclosed front My Bison has and enclosed front. Sometimes that's a a PITA when trying to move the LP tanks. But, it is doable. The tanks, batteries and spare tire are all enclosed and stay cleaner. And probably safer from wandering eyes.

3] 27 gal waste and 40 gal fresh water for sure. Ours are 30 gal waste and 40 gal fresh. That'll carry us for at least a long weekend. When we go for a week or two, we try to utilize the campground toilets to save space in the black water tank. We also carry a 65 gal water tank on extended trips. can use to water horses or refill our fresh water tank dependind on what's available.

4] Rumbar floor wasn't available when we bought ours. Fro everything I've heard it is great. Get it.

5]Get a furnace and A/C. It will payoff in resale value to say nothing of your comfort. You'll love it on cool nights and hot days.

6]My trailer weighs about 15,000 lbs fully loaded. If you once crank that weight up by hand, you'll wish you had a power jack- hydraulic or electric. I damn near killed myself once. Then got the Hydro installed.

7]The stereo is wonderful just for the radio and the ability to get a current weather forecast when far from home.

8] You'll love having a microwave when you are connected to electric at a campground or to your own generator.

9]Buy mud flaps for the rear wheels of your truck. The first time you drive down a muddy road, you'll be glad you did.

10] Mid-tack. We opted for an extra stall, rather than the mid-tack. We can carry a lot of 'stuff in the extra stall like hay. Almost as handy as a mid tack but less $$$.

It sounds like you've ordered a great trailer. Have fun!




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Rockin'TK
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2008-04-01 11:41 PM (#80932 - in reply to #80840)
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lindszo, just sent you a pm with my in-put!

adding a few thousand in options up front is only going to raise the payment a little if you are going to finance it!

We waited on our bigfoot jack to save about $8. per month, and took a almost a year to finally get one installed and blew some of our tax money!

Live and learn!

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jackbrat
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2008-04-02 1:29 AM (#80934 - in reply to #80840)
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Get the stuff you want now and pay a little more on the monthly payment. It costs way much more to add at a  later date down the road. Plus - I never seem to come up with the money to finally get all the add-ons. Should - coulda-would- live and learn!

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