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MARY LOU
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2008-01-28 8:27 PM (#75484)
Subject: NEW GENERATIOR


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need help on buylng new gene will a 3500 w kipor diesel carry horse trailer air,lights frig and tv mwave at same time thanks M. L
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Towfoo
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-01-28 8:48 PM (#75488 - in reply to #75484)
Subject: RE: NEW GENERATIOR


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Depends on how much wattage your AC unit, fridge, microwave, etc. draws in total. My guess is that 3500 watts will be marginal for all that running at once. Add up the wattage they draw and see if it fits.
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Spooler
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2008-01-28 8:52 PM (#75490 - in reply to #75484)
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Noop, you will need the 6500-7000? watt Kipor to run all that. You will not be able to run the microwave and A/C at the same time period with a 3500 Watt generator of any kind.

Edited by Spooler 2008-01-28 8:54 PM
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BigT
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2008-01-28 8:58 PM (#75492 - in reply to #75484)
Subject: RE: NEW GENERATIOR


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You have to add up the starting wattage, which is higher than the running wattage. I just looked up the Kipor 3500 diesel generator, 14 hours on a full load is great, but it weighs 350lbs, I hope you don't intend to move it.
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MARY LOU
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2008-01-28 9:29 PM (#75495 - in reply to #75484)
Subject: RE: NEW GENERATIOR


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thinks for the info would a gas be lighter      M L
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BigT
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2008-01-28 9:54 PM (#75498 - in reply to #75484)
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The KIPOR SINEMASTER IG3000/KGE3000Ti GASOLINE INVERTER GENERATOR weighs 132lbs, it also quiter than the diesel, it produces clean power, which is required for most electronic appliances (computers and tv).
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nanny
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2008-01-29 9:21 AM (#75518 - in reply to #75498)
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We have the Kipor 3000.
It works great
Weights about 130 lbs
When we use micro, we don't use ac
Runs everything else, coffee pot, hair dryer,tv,dvd,etc.
We also have the fantastic fan in the bathroom area, works
almost as good as the ac. We use it more than the ac.
The Kipor is very quiet, efficient and economical.
It automatically goes to 'save mode' (quiet) when running small
appliances, i.e. tv, radio, etc.
Hope this helps.
Happy hunting.

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TRAILBLAZER06
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2008-01-29 9:52 AM (#75522 - in reply to #75484)
Subject: RE: NEW GENERATIOR


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Location: FULTON, MS

 DOES YOUR UNIT PROVIED  POWER TO USE AC AND  FRIG AT SAME TIME , OR  AC TV AND LIGHTS SAME TIME,THESE ARE THE APPLANCES WE USE TO AT SAME TIME WE COOK OUTSIDE I WILL ALSO CHECK MY APPLANCES TO SEE WHAT I NEED THANK FOR INFO , HERE IN MS I AM GETTING READY TO RIDE THANKS  TRAILBLAZER06 BY THE WAY MY WIFE IS M L

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nanny
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2008-01-29 11:04 AM (#75525 - in reply to #75522)
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We run all applicances, lights, tv, f/a,micro, etc with no problem. If ac is running and we need micro, we shut down ac until done using micro. We really don't use ac that often. Like mentioned earlier, we use our fantastic fan frequently.

 

 

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TRAILBLAZER06
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2008-01-29 12:08 PM (#75531 - in reply to #75525)
Subject: RE: NEW GENERATIOR


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Location: FULTON, MS
THANKS AGAIN FOR THE INFO WILL BE LOOKING CLOSE AT BUYING THIS TYPE UNIT I LIKE WHAT I HAVE HEARD,  ARE YOU HAPPY WITH YOURS ANY PROBLEMS.
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nanny
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2008-01-29 12:21 PM (#75533 - in reply to #75484)
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We like it even more than our Honda. It is quieter and has an electric start.  I fits perfectly in our tack area.

 

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Longrider
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-01-29 1:13 PM (#75541 - in reply to #75484)
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Your Honda must not be the 3000ies inverter model if it doesn't have electric start.  I've heard my Honda running next to the Kipor and I must say there is a difference in the noise level of the two inverter types.  The Honda is quieter but the Kipor is quiet compared to the old bargain basement brands and that goes for the old type Honda's as well.

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3 Willows Farm
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2008-01-30 6:54 AM (#75583 - in reply to #75484)
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Not trying to bad mouth the Kipors but from my personal experience spend the extra little bit of money and get the Honda.  I run a business where we use the generators about 3-4 days a week.  I tried the Kipors and have not been inpressed.  I had three of the 3000/3500 Kipors that used more oil than gas and became louder the more they were run.  The dealer was nice enough to warranty them each time.  I also had a Kipor 6000 and it couldnt handle the load that my honda 6000 models can.  I can only speak for myself and the experiences I have had with Kipor vs Honda.

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pegasus
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2008-01-30 8:08 PM (#75661 - in reply to #75484)
Subject: RE: NEW GENERATIOR


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 you might want to take a look at the Yamaha EF3000iSEB.  I really like mine. this unit has a boost to start the bigger ACs many LQs have now.  it is rated 51-57db,  quiet, and the economy setting is even lower.  it came with the wheels, two sturdy handles, brake and battery charging cord.  i do turn it off to run the microwave, but that's not often and not for long anyway.  the price was better than the Honda.

happy trails

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Razorback1980
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-01-31 12:37 PM (#75727 - in reply to #75484)
Subject: RE: NEW GENERATIOR


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Remember the WAV theory.  Watts = Amps * Volts  So if you have a 14amp ac that is 110...it pulls 14 * 110 or 1540 watts. Add all the watts together for all you want to run and you need at least that size generator. Those are made up numbers so don't use those...look on your electrical items you want to run and see what the actual ratings are. Also important to remember that as things age, they become less efficient so the 14 amp example might be 16 after it gets a little dirt in the electrical motors bearings so buy a little bigger. Of course we all know there is no dirt near a horse trailer so not sure what I was thinking there!

Edited by Razorback1980 2008-01-31 12:39 PM
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TX Rebel
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2008-02-02 8:35 AM (#75870 - in reply to #75484)
Subject: RE: NEW GENERATIOR


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I'm with Pegasus. I bought a Yamaha 3000iseb after looking at the Hondas, Kipors and a few other ones in that power range. I liked the fact the Yamaha had that extra boost up to 3500 watts when needed for when my A/C compressor kicks on/off AND it has the economy mode so it can run up to 20 hrs on one tank of fuel - perfect for when I don't need to use the A/C. I also will turn off the the A/C if I need to run the microwave, otherwise everything else runs just fine with it. It's quiet and very fuel efficient plus you can't beat the reliability factor of a Yamaha.
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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2008-02-02 9:38 AM (#75874 - in reply to #75484)
Subject: RE: NEW GENERATIOR



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The Chinese are copying lots of designs from other manufactures and producing lower cost machines. It's just amazing how flagrant some of those copies can be.

Some of these copies have produced lower cost products that folks are happy with. Some folks have had problems with longivity or products really meeting the specs that they are advertised to have.  It's a buyer beware market.

Kipor and Boliy are both chinese built generators.  I've never looked at the Kipor. But I have looked at the Boliy. They are an very close copy of the Yamaha generator. Even the shape of all the parts on the motor are the same.  They claim 3300 watts out of a 70 lb generator. They claim the same power from a 50% lighter generator than Honda, Yamaha or Kipor. Their claims says that they use a Digital Signal Processor to get better efficiency out of the smaller generators. There are lots of Folks on the RV and other travel nets that have tried them and are happy.

So if you are looking for a 3000watt invertor generator and want it to be luggable ( 70 pounds) take a look at Boliy

http://www.boliyguy.com/index.html

 

 

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Mandi/Abby
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2008-02-02 2:42 PM (#75883 - in reply to #75484)
Subject: RE: NEW GENERATIOR



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1. How do you pronounce that name (Boyil)?

2. Do they only come in the 3300 size?

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2008-02-04 5:48 AM (#76005 - in reply to #75484)
Subject: RE: NEW GENERATIOR


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I have been running a Yamaha EF3000iseB for about four years now. Done nothing to it but oil changes, replace an air filter and one battery. We haul it in the truck bed and it has never failed to start and run perfectly. Looked at the Honda but went with the Yamaha because of the extra 500 watts at startup and it comes standard with wheels. Now, I would be tempted to try one of the Chinese knockoff gen-sets, but it would be hard not to stay with a Yamaha Inverter generator. The Yamaha and Honda inverter generators are wound with copper, whereas the knockoff generators are wound with aluminum. That's where the biggest part of the weight difference comes in. 150+# for the Honda, Yamaha. 70# for the "Boliy".

 

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