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Buckskinlover
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-01-16 10:29 PM (#74590)
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We are looking to replace the battery in our trailer. The one we have is no longer holding charge. Bought the trailer used so no telling how old the battery is. We only need it to run the lights here and there.

What kind of battery do y'all recommend? What size etc? I know nothing about batteries. Hubby asked me to ask y'all what y'all think. He was thinking a marine type but that is not what is in there.

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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2008-01-17 8:25 AM (#74605 - in reply to #74590)
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I've seen two types of "marine" batteries.   "Starting" and "Deep Cycle"

For a trailer's lights and such I would get a "Deep Cycle" battery.  They're used for trolling motors.  It is much more resistant to damage by deep discharging.  The kind of usage the battery would experience over a couple weeks worth of camping far from utility supplied electricity and a charger.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-01-17 8:38 AM (#74607 - in reply to #74590)
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 I also use marine deep cycle batteries. In several postings in HTW I have read that the batteries commonly used in golf carts are also a good choice. In a call to several auto parts stores in my area, no one sells this type of battery. In the spring, I plan to call a local golf course and see where their supplier is located.

In the postings I've read, it was suggested that two 6v batteries be used in place of a 12v. With my wiring set up, I would have to make some major alterations to accommodate the change. I'm hoping that a 12v battery is available.

BOL  Gard

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2008-01-17 8:53 AM (#74611 - in reply to #74590)
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This may help you decide! They ain't cheap, but they suppose to be the real deal!!

http://www.optimabatteries.com/optima_products/

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-01-17 9:08 AM (#74613 - in reply to #74611)
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Originally written by retento on 2008-01-17 9:53 AM

This may help you decide! They ain't cheap, but they suppose to be the real deal!!

Retento

I went on the web site you posted and found that each of the auto parts dealers I had spoken to about not having golf cart batteries, were dealers for these batteries. I've seen them commonly used in hi/po cars and a few in marine environments, but none for LQs. Have you had any personal experience with their usage? I've heard they were spill proof and able to take a lot of physical abuse, but have not heard about their longevity.

Thanks for the thread and I will definitely look into it.

BOL  Gard

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2008-01-17 9:19 AM (#74614 - in reply to #74590)
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Gard, I've never used Optima batteries. Been reading about them for several years. I buy alot of U-1 batteries for my powerchairs and scooters, last time I checked Optima didn't build a battery that would fit under the shroud. A friend of mine runs these Optima batteries in his logging equipment, Franklin and Timberjack skidders, Bell saws, loaders, over the road tractors, etc......And he swears by them! I've seen the guys with the  "go fast" bass boats at the river using the blue top Optima on the trolling motors.  Next time I need a battery for a truck, tractor or whatever, I'm going to try me one of them Optima's out!!
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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2008-01-17 11:00 AM (#74626 - in reply to #74607)
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Originally written by gard on 2008-01-17 7:38 AM

 I also use marine deep cycle batteries. In several postings in HTW I have read that the batteries commonly used in golf carts are also a good choice. In a call to several auto parts stores in my area, no one sells this type of battery. In the spring, I plan to call a local golf course and see where their supplier is located.

In the postings I've read, it was suggested that two 6v batteries be used in place of a 12v. With my wiring set up, I would have to make some major alterations to accommodate the change. I'm hoping that a 12v battery is available.

BOL  Gard

Gard .. If you're close to a Sam's Wholesale club, they might have the golf cart batteries.  My local Sam's does.  I think one of the reasons that cart batteries are reasonably priced is their standard size.  All of the small battery powered equipment in my factory (boom lifts, scissor lifts, walker lift) have cart batteries.  

All connected to get 12V, 24V or 36 V as required.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-01-17 11:42 AM (#74631 - in reply to #74590)
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My wife has a membership to Sam's club and buys food there. Never thought about them for a battery source.

You guys are the best. Where else can you find an excellent source of information on almost any topic in such a short time? This forum and the generous membership have a wealth of knowledge unavailable from any other source.

Thank you one and all

BOL  Gard

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Longrider
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-01-17 3:17 PM (#74641 - in reply to #74590)
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I replaced the standard deep cycle battery over a year ago on our LQ with an Optima RV.  It's absolutely spill proof as there are no battery caps - completely sealed battery.  When I purchased it, it was laying on its side in the warehouse.  One thing I really like about it, unless it's totally dead from overuse it will recharge itself enough to provide a little power for emergency stuff.  That comes in handy for the electrically actuated hydraulic jack.

I have really been pleased with the Optima.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-01-17 5:40 PM (#74650 - in reply to #74590)
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Longrider

Which series or colour did you purchase? I've heard they have a good reputation for being tuff. I know a couple of guys who run off road trucks and these batteries are their first choice. Thanks for the info

BOL  gard

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longearsrule
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2008-01-17 8:55 PM (#74664 - in reply to #74590)
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This came at just the right time. My batteries aren't holding a charge and I was going to go get a couple more. Just how much more do these batteries run. According to their website there are stores close I could get some.
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Buckskinlover
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-01-17 10:30 PM (#74670 - in reply to #74590)
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Thanks y'all !!! This place is the best
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Longrider
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-01-18 6:52 AM (#74683 - in reply to #74650)
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Gard - I bought the blue Optima as that's the one the dealer recommended for my application. I don't remember what I paid, seems like it was around $125.  I have been very pleased with it.  I would never go back to the old water/electrolyte battery.  Gel is the way to go.
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Hank
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2008-01-18 7:59 AM (#74688 - in reply to #74683)
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That's not that much more $$....thank's for steering me in this direction.
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traveller
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2008-01-18 10:41 AM (#74701 - in reply to #74590)
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I appreciate the good advise that I have received from this forum.  I think I will have to replace the batteries on my used LQ trailer that I purchased last spring so I find this information helpful.  I kept the trailer plugged in quite a bit and was cautioned about keeping water in the batteries as this could fry the batteries, and I believe that the problem was with the inverter not being the top quality.  At least that was what I was told.  The trailer is a 2001 and hasn't had the batteries replaced, and although I seemed to have power they didn't test out as strong as I would like so I am expecting that replacing them may be in my near future.  I looked at the web site for these reccomended batteries and it seems that you don't add water to these.  If I were to keep my trailer plugged in would I burn up these batteries or would they solve this problem?  Thanks.  
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-01-18 11:03 AM (#74705 - in reply to #74590)
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I have the same problem with one of my trailers that has a solar charger. Apparently the charging circuit isn't variable or doesn't monitor the batteries' charge. In the summer I have to constantly inspect the batteries for the water level because of overcharging. I don't know how a gel battery works under these conditions, or what their tolerances are for over/under charging. Without the plates and liquid electrolyte, they should be better. I would also be interested in their life spans. Even with my minimal usage (8-12 cycles yr), I rarely get more than three years out of the marine batteries. Installed in my boats, they often last 4-5 yrs. The people I know that are using the gel batteries, haven't been doing so for any appreciable amounts of time.

Maybe someone else has some working knowledge of the gel batteries.

BOL  Gard

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2008-01-18 11:18 AM (#74715 - in reply to #74590)
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The Optima batteries are not of the "gell" variety. They are spiral wound, http://www.optimabatteries.com/optima_edge/  Sealed Lead Acid (SLA), Absorbant Glass Mat (AGM). You can "cook" them by over charging. You should use something like a "Battery Minder"   http://www.batteryweb.com/batteryminder.cfm   or a Battery Tender    http://batterytender.com/why_batterytender.php to keep them charged.

 I use SLA, AGM, batteries in my Mobility scooters, the Gell Cell batteries are real lazy in the winter months. The Gell dosn't flow freely around and through the mats as easly as the liquid acid. The Sealed Lead Acid, Absorbant Glass Mat battery will give you the most bang for your buck, they are cheaper than a gell battery and they don't spill when overturned.

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