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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2007-10-09 1:44 PM (#69072)
Subject: walkers



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Now that my husband has been to his first horse show/fair and has seen the difference the extra exercise can make he has decided I can get a walker.  (I've only been wanting one for the past 5 yrs or so)  After talking to the judge he said that the only reason our filly took 3rd instead of 2nd was she wasn't as well muscled as the other filly. 

So now that I have "permission" to get a walker, where is the best place as far as quality and price for a simple 2 or 4 horse walker? 

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huntseat
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-10-10 1:59 PM (#69144 - in reply to #69072)
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If you are looking to add muscle volume you won't want a walker.  The top halter trainers use four wheelers to very quickly trot their horses in straight lines.  Walking does not add muscle, troting does.  But the best way to get muscle volume is with genetics.

The reason troting is best done in straight lines is so that both sides (muscles and bones) are worked equally.  (We all know working young horses in small circles for long periods of time day in and day out is a huge no-no!)

I wouldn't get a walker for the reason you posted above, but that is my two cents...

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dawnb
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2007-10-10 2:21 PM (#69147 - in reply to #69072)
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get a tread mill but know how to use it first.
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sinful1
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2007-10-10 7:38 PM (#69183 - in reply to #69072)
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I agree with huntseat 100%.  You can't build muscle with a hot walker, certain feeds or or what ever.  It has to be there to start with. What you can do is tone that muscle with a good workout.  Like the she said with a 4-wheeler or pony them.  Plus Walkers are exspensive.
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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2007-10-10 8:39 PM (#69187 - in reply to #69072)
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A 4 wheeler is out of the quiestion and I've been ponying but since I've started working I haven't had the time during daylight hours. Riding here after dark isn't safe.

 That is why we are looking at walkers.

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notfromtexas
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2007-10-10 8:40 PM (#69188 - in reply to #69072)
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I do not agree that walking can't help build muscle.  But I do agree that a walker will not build it correctly because (at least on the hot walkers I have seen), the horses walk too slow and without a rider, tend to drag their hind ends.  But a correct walk will absolutely build good muscle.  Hire a kid with a dressage background to walk your horse (preferably up and down hill)!  If not that, the best thing for building muscle safely is an exercise pool.  Think you can talk your husband into one of those?

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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2007-10-10 8:45 PM (#69191 - in reply to #69188)
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   A pool for the horse?!  No chance! I can't even get one for the family much less a 4-H horse. And out here in no mans land your lucky to get a kid to go outside.  No dressage riders here.   

   The breeder I got my first mare from does a lot of halter showing and has a variable speed walker with reverse and uses it for her halter horses.

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huntseat
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-10-11 3:18 PM (#69233 - in reply to #69188)
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Originally written by notfromtexas on 2007-10-10 8:40 PM

I do not agree that walking can't help build muscle.  But I do agree that a walker will not build it correctly because (at least on the hot walkers I have seen), the horses walk too slow and without a rider, tend to drag their hind ends.  But a correct walk will absolutely build good muscle.  Hire a kid with a dressage background to walk your horse (preferably up and down hill)!  If not that, the best thing for building muscle safely is an exercise pool.  Think you can talk your husband into one of those?

You do understand that halter horses don't have just "regular" muscle volume?  Think body builder, not ballerina.

I suggest you take some time to go visit some big trainers (the kind that show that horses you dream you horse looked like) and learn some techniques that you might find applicable in your situation.

Taking advice from so-so trainers leads to so-so halter horses, that's why when you go for advice you straight to the top!

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notfromtexas
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2007-10-11 7:10 PM (#69238 - in reply to #69233)
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Actually, I worked for a QH halter trainer, and showed in it quite extensively...many years ago admittedly.  It takes a lot of different kind of work to fit a horse appropriately for it's discipline.  But a good walk (not just the drag around the arena type) is certainly helpful. 
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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2007-10-11 8:35 PM (#69241 - in reply to #69233)
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I understand the difference.  I don't want a tank, just a way to get the horses more exercise than they are getting. 

When I was looking for someone to teach my daughter and horse I found that the only trainers around here are at the race track. 

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huntseat
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-10-11 9:50 PM (#69246 - in reply to #69241)
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Terri, I feel for you...NM is not know for having lots of "show" trainers.  Maybe there could be some help in Arizona?

When it comes right down to it you have to do what you have to do given the cards you are dealt.  Good luck with your walker.

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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2007-10-11 11:28 PM (#69248 - in reply to #69246)
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I'll have to check into AZ.  Its takes almost as long to drive to the next city in NM as it does to get the the AZ border. 

A walker I've seen pictures of is in Tucson.  Its an older 4 horse and he wants $1,200 for it.  Any idea how heavy the base of those things are? 

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flyinghfarm
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2007-10-13 12:32 AM (#69289 - in reply to #69072)
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This man builds an exceptionally safe walker, variable speed and reverse, we have had one for at least 14 years (only had to replace a belt, DIY and cheap to do!) and I know several at large TB training centers that are working hard and holding up beautifully.  Jerry Lucas at 417-476-5188.  One of our main equine vets here will only use these walkers.  (Never even met Mr Lucas, the vet is who made the order for ours to be delivered)  We still love ours , enough to have dismantled it and moved it with us when we went from a 5 acre facility to a 100 acre place.
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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2007-10-13 4:55 PM (#69317 - in reply to #69289)
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Thanks.  I'll have to call and see what his prices look like.
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