Posted 2006-01-14 6:10 PM (#35472) Subject: Living quarter shower
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Living quarters Shower? Do you need to use a drain trap for a shower above a gray water tank? Is their some kind of shut of you could use like in a toilet valve? Space is an issue I dont want to raise the base for the clearance of a p-trap. Any advice? Thanks
Posted 2006-01-14 10:19 PM (#35480 - in reply to #35472) Subject: RE: Living quarter shower
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Posts: 216 Location: Chillicothe, Ohio
I would not recommend connecting w/o a trap. If you must you could use a typical knife gate valve as used on rv plumbing systems. But if you forget to close it you will get odor up from the tank. Also dont forget to vent the tank. I was able to fit a trap under my shower by raising it just 4 inches. I still have plenty of headroom in my Sooner, it has a standard height ceiling.
Posted 2006-01-14 11:32 PM (#35482 - in reply to #35472) Subject: RE: Living quarter shower
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Did you make your own trap? A standard 1 1/2 would require 5 1/2 inches. I looked at the sink traps that would take less space but am concerned about a good seal. Thanks For the response.
Posted 2006-01-15 2:55 AM (#35485 - in reply to #35472) Subject: RE: Living quarter shower
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Posts: 1283 Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey
You can make your own trap using a couple of the 90* rubber connectors the ones with the hose clamps, or by taking the abs drain pieces and turning them, you should be able to make a trap with only 3.5" of space with 1.5" drain pipe. Also get a gooseneck for the shower head and mount the shower pipe as high as possible, you should be able to put the shower head against the ceiling do it that way.
Posted 2006-01-15 8:37 AM (#35488 - in reply to #35472) Subject: RE: Living quarter shower
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Posts: 91 Location: Ozark, MO
The way we do it is to cut the floor out under the trap just enough to let it extend below the floor,if it is not directy above the gray tank. Then put an insulated box over the trap.
Posted 2006-01-15 10:09 AM (#35491 - in reply to #35472) Subject: RE: Living quarter shower
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Posts: 824 Location: Kansas
On that same topic but another question...I'm trying to invent a "sort of" shower for my trailer. If I put in some type of shower pan and cut a hole in the floor, is there some sort of adapter for underneath that would allow me to connect a portable gray water tank (small) to the bottom of an adapter? Not sure I'm explaining this well, but I have a 5 gal "solar" shower bag. I could always use it in a stall at the show but would kind of prefer to shower in my trailer. Don't need plumbing, just need a way to collect the water for later disposal. Yes, it's a lot of trouble for a horse show, but if you'd been in that last shower room at the fairgrounds...NASTY.
Anyway-someone had pictures the other day about a PVC frame/shower curtain arrangement that dropped into a drawer in their trailer that hid the shower pan. I thought I saved those pictures but can't find them and a search did not turn up the one I'm looking for. Can anyone shed a little light on this for me? Thanks.
Posted 2006-01-18 10:55 AM (#35660 - in reply to #35472) Subject: RE: Living quarter shower
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Posts: 824 Location: Kansas
Someone had pictures the other day of a square PVC frame with shower curtain attached, that dropped into a drawer type unit. I can't find those anywhere, thought I had saved them. Can anyone help me relocate them? Thanks, Terri
Posted 2006-01-18 11:41 AM (#35665 - in reply to #35660) Subject: RE: Living quarter shower
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Posts: 524 Location: Lone Oak, Tx
I found this idea: http://www.popupgallery.com/thumbnails.php?album=77&page=1&sort=nd
Granted it's in a pop-up camper, but what I plan on doing is to a make a frame to put the tub in, have it a bit off of the floor so a I can run a flexible line out the door and into a container. Since our shower is in the first stall, I do not wish to go through the floor to drain it. It will also have a cover over it so when not in use as a shower it can be used to put my hay bales on and such. If a horse needs to go into that stall I can remove it and have the space for a horse.
Heres another: http://community.webshots.com/album/32993736nXITHU
Posted 2006-01-18 1:01 PM (#35668 - in reply to #35472) Subject: RE: Living quarter shower
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Posts: 824 Location: Kansas
Exactly! I would prefer not to cut a hole either. Most places I'd go wouldn't like me just running it on the ground but couldn't quite figure out how to get the water outside and into a container.
Posted 2006-01-18 4:07 PM (#35681 - in reply to #35668) Subject: RE: Living quarter shower
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Posts: 524 Location: Lone Oak, Tx
Yup, i'm just going to run a flexible line, about 1 1/2" out the door into a container and when not in use the line can be stored under the shower tub.
Posted 2006-01-21 9:52 AM (#35787 - in reply to #35482) Subject: RE: Living quarter shower
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I made it over to a rv supplier and looked at the gate valves and other assembly part. I would take just as much room to assemble them and tie in other plumbing from sink as the trap will. So I decided this is not even and option. Thanks for your input.
Has anybody else used gorilla glue to fasten firring strips to areas that do not have tubing to screw to. Allso how bad is it if you use regular steel screws on alluminum in a few spots?
Posted 2006-01-21 4:04 PM (#35793 - in reply to #35472) Subject: RE: Living quarter shower
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Posts: 1283 Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey
As far as steel screws in aluminum I do it all the time, probley have driven 50 today. I use zinc plated screws 1.25" long I use 1"x3"s for fir strips(just becuse they are a better board). Don't use them to hold your panleing to the trailer, use them to hold the fir strips to the trailer then come back and fasten the paneling to the fir strips.
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