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YoungBuck
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2005-10-06 10:49 AM (#31355)
Subject: How much can my GMC pull?? Newbie


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New to the horse world, so any constructive criticism is welcome.   I have a GMC V6 1/2ton (5000 pulling cap).   I trail ride once a month traveling sometime up to 3 hrs (with friends).  

1.Should I get a 1 BP horse trailer or a 2 horse?

2. What questionS should I ask before buying a used trailer?

 

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terri s
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2005-10-06 11:03 AM (#31356 - in reply to #31355)
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If looking at trailer with wood floor, ALWAYS pull the mats. ALL the way up! Check carefully around the edges for rotten wood. Look underneath at the condition of the wiring and floor supports. Test lights and brakes. Look carefully at how it sits on the ground; axles appear ok? These seem very basic, but my daughter didn't listen/believe me and bought the trailer from hell. Amazingly-people will lie to you about these things!
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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2005-10-06 11:17 AM (#31358 - in reply to #31355)
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I'd buy a 2 horse- no sense getting a one horse. Bp are fine but I'd look for a smaller GN. I think your 1/2 ton could pull it. Like terri said, examine it carefully especially the floor. but first- figure out what you need and want. how many horses are you hauling? How often? Over hills or pretty much flat land? Are you going to need some room for tack and people? overnights? Answers to these questions might change your plans a bit. Plus you might want to consider the future- might you plan on showing or overnight trail riding? Can you afford to upgrade truck and trailer in a few years?

 

 

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YoungBuck
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2005-10-06 11:19 AM (#31359 - in reply to #31356)
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good looking out terri,  my buddy  bought a trailer to large for his truck, and ended up replacing his transmission twice.  He finally had to get a bigger truck.  Thats why I'm skeptical at these to-good-to-be-true deals! I'm a workingman not Bill Gates. 
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Dunoir
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2005-10-06 11:33 AM (#31361 - in reply to #31355)
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a 2H BP will weigh 2,000 to 3,000 lbs, add 2 horses and you're at your limit.  A V6 just doesn't have the power needed, so I'd upgrade your truck first thing if you can.  I had a F150 V8 that was rated to pull 7,300 and it did okay with my rig fully loaded at 6,000, but when the big trucks passed me, I sure felt it.  Course my trailer is 7'9", so that does have an affect in high winds. 

I have a 2500 Dodge Diesel now and am MUCH happier pulling the same trailer and will upgrade in a year or so.

 

 

 

 

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xyzer
Reg. Apr 2004
Posted 2005-10-06 11:53 AM (#31363 - in reply to #31355)
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Originally written by YoungBuck on 2005-10-06 10:49 AM

New to the horse world, so any constructive criticism is welcome.   I have a GMC V6 1/2ton (5000 pulling cap).   I trail ride once a month traveling sometime up to 3 hrs (with friends).  

1.Should I get a 1 BP horse trailer or a 2 horse?

2. What questionS should I ask before buying a used trailer?

  

Find a good condition no frills 2 horse B/P..maybe around 2500#'s. You could pull 1 horse anytime and maybe 2 horses on short hauls. If you go to a bigger tow rig you are set....and resale on a 2 horse is better than a 1 horse. Check condition of floor, tires, brakes, axles, latches, electrical and hitch. . Take it for a test drive...Get a brake controller first!

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qhgirl
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-10-06 3:12 PM (#31372 - in reply to #31355)
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I have a 2 horse bee trailer 18 feet long gooseneck and my Silverado 1500 pulls it great. I would get a 2 horse. I would also get a lighter one. Mine is galvanized with a steel frame, and an all aluminum might be a tiny bit better. The only time mine has "issues" is going up a steep hill! My truck has to double as my normal vehicle so I chose to go with the smaller gas guzzler and I don't regret it. I wish I could have a larger trailer, but the size of mine or a new one I want is fine!
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Champhorse
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-10-06 4:01 PM (#31374 - in reply to #31355)
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Great advice in previous posts. I think the biggest concern outside of checking over a used trailer very well is the weight factor. Older trailers will more than likely be steel construction and may be heavy. You will probably save quite a bit of trailer weight looking at an aluminum stock combo trailer but you will need to keep the weight as low as possible. Resale on a 1H is probably not very good, so you are much better off getting a 2H if you can keep the weight down. Look for something around #2500 lbs. if you can find it. That way you will be at about #4000 lbs. loaded with a 1200 lb horse, tack, water, hay, etc.

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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-10-06 4:50 PM (#31377 - in reply to #31361)
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Originally written by Dunoir on 2005-10-06 11:33 AM

a 2H BP will weigh 2,000 to 3,000 lbs, add 2 horses and you're at your limit.  A V6 just doesn't have the power needed, so I'd upgrade your truck first thing if you can.  I had a F150 V8 that was rated to pull 7,300 and it did okay with my rig fully loaded at 6,000, but when the big trucks passed me, I sure felt it.  Course my trailer is 7'9", so that does have an affect in high winds. 

I have a 2500 Dodge Diesel now and am MUCH happier pulling the same trailer and will upgrade in a year or so.

 

 

 

 

why in the world would you make that kind of ignorant statement?  ("A V6 just doesn't have the power needed")

you dont have any other info, gear ratio, trans, flat or hilly, even what year model.  THE TRUCK WILL PULL ITS MAX RATED LOAD JUST FINE, that is what ratings are for.  it may be a little slow up a hill, and the owner may or may not be satisfied with the performance, but i doubt someone trail riding once a month will be to worried about that. especially if the truck is used as a daily driver.

you do realize you dont "need" a 3/4 ton diesel to pull 6000#  ????

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barry
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2005-10-07 6:37 AM (#31390 - in reply to #31355)
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I pulled a 16' stock trailer and two 2H BPs with my 1993 GMC Sierra Ext Cab, V6, 4x2, manual tranny. Performance in hill country -- it sucked. Flat ground it did fine. Damage NONE. I am still using it for a drive to work truck (leave my 02 Ram hooked to the trailer). I agree with Chadsalt. You won't be running with the big dogs but you will get there just fine. If you pull your trailer only a couple of times a month - spend your money on something besides a BIG truck.

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jakey1
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2005-10-07 8:43 AM (#31393 - in reply to #31355)
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It's not easy finding a GN 2horse under #4000.  Add one horse and you're at or over the limit for your 6 cylinder truck.  I tow an all aluminum with my GMC 1500, but I've got the 8 cyl. Make sure you've got a tow package with your truck or you'll have the added expense of the trans cooler, etc.
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YoungBuck
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2005-10-07 10:15 AM (#31396 - in reply to #31393)
Subject: Another DUMB Question ...NEWBIE, GN???


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Do/Can you convert a truckbed to a GN...and how??? My GMC is set-up for a BP only.
Sorry for the dumb questions....excuse my ignorance.
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bjhouten
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-10-07 10:29 AM (#31397 - in reply to #31355)
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I have a 2 horse slant stock combo with dressing room. I love this configuration for running around. It's not heavy, has flexible use & roomy
for the single horse I haul most of the time. It has a stall divider I can lift in & out by myself in a couple of minutes when I want to haul two horses. The rear tack wall swings back, so if I want to haul 12 foot stock panels in it, I can & have. I bought it used a 2 years ago. It is a 2000 Bonanza, paid $2,500, great condition. Found it in the local newspaper. I wanted something to run around with so I wouldn't have to pull my LQ for short trips. I plan to add plexiglass to the sides this winter, and get it repainted next summer.

-Betty
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xyzer
Reg. Apr 2004
Posted 2005-10-07 11:49 AM (#31401 - in reply to #31396)
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Originally written by YoungBuck on 2005-10-07 10:15 AM

Do/Can you convert a truckbed to a GN...and how??? My GMC is set-up for a BP only. Sorry for the dumb questions....excuse my ignorance.

Yes....look here http://tsetruckstuff.com/page/tsetruck/ctgy/TURN

 

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Champhorse
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-10-07 1:42 PM (#31409 - in reply to #31355)
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You can add a gooseneck hitch to your truck.....cost will be about $350 - $450. However, you do not have to have a gooseneck trailer. Keep in mind that the longer the trailer gets (and a gooseneck is much longer than a bumper pull) the more weight you keep adding. Now, some of that weight is carried over your truck on a gooseneck where a bumper pull has all the weight behind your truck.

 

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qhgirl
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Posted 2005-10-07 1:42 PM (#31410 - in reply to #31355)
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Why in the world would you call someone ignorant?  I think we all are here to ask questions and answer them the best we can.  There are ways to actually educate people without calling them names. 

With that said...  To answer the question about putting a gooseneck hitch in the truck.  I got mine from Kay at Northside Trailer.  I got the hitch that actually flips over so that way I can haul other things in my trailer without a perminate hitch in the middle.  I love the fact I can do that.  I would ask around to your horse friends that have goosenecks and find out where they had theirs in stalled.  It is something that I would have professionally done, but that is my own opinion since I am very cautious of my safety of horses that I am hauling! 

I still have the hitch in the back to haul a bumper pull, that never changes, I just had an additional hitch put in to pull a gooseneck! 

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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-10-07 2:12 PM (#31411 - in reply to #31410)
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Originally written by qhgirl on 2005-10-07 1:42 PM

Why in the world would you call someone ignorant?  I think we all are here to ask questions and answer them the best we can. 

first of all, check the definition of ignorant. second that person was attempting to answer a question, not ask one.
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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2005-10-07 3:27 PM (#31416 - in reply to #31355)
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You can also buy a ball GN hitch and do it yourself if you have the tools. We did both trucks- its not easy but it saves money.
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qhgirl
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-10-07 5:05 PM (#31421 - in reply to #31411)
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first of all, check the definition of ignorant. second that person was attempting to answer a question, not ask one.

I am fully aware of the definition... and yet you may feel this, there is no need to call another person this.  To many this is a rude and uncalled for comment.  Sorry but that is just plane rude of you.  There are ways to discuss things in a common and rational way... calling people names is NOT a way to get your point across.

That person was attempting to answer the question per his/her own experience.  There is nothing wrong with that.  He/she felt that in their experience a bigger truck was better.  He/she said their peace and now we all can give our opinions reguarding the topic. 



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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-10-07 5:51 PM (#31422 - in reply to #31421)
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Originally written by qhgirl on 2005-10-07 5:05 PM

first of all, check the definition of ignorant. second that person was attempting to answer a question, not ask one.

I am fully aware of the definition... and yet you may feel this, there is no need to call another person this.  To many this is a rude and uncalled for comment.  Sorry but that is just plane rude of you.  There are ways to discuss things in a common and rational way... calling people names is NOT a way to get your point across.

That person was attempting to answer the question per his/her own experience.  There is nothing wrong with that.  He/she felt that in their experience a bigger truck was better.  He/she said their peace and now we all can give our opinions reguarding the topic. 

 

 

 

again, look up the definition of ignorant. ignorant is not name calling, dumbass would be name calling, which i would not do. quit trying to make this a PC issue.

the statement "A V6 just doesn't have the power needed" in the context of the post i refered to, is ignorant.  i dont see that i even referenced the person, just the statement.   however the OP came here with a legitimate question, and true to form for the horse world, someone with supposed experiance, basically told them a perfectly useful vehicle was not good enough. i simply called them on it.

although there seems to be quite a change in tone here. there are several people actually trying to help the OP with the GN situation on the v6 1/2 ton, something i likely wouldnt pursue due to a GN eating up most of the 5000#. and as the regulars know, im all about the little trucks.



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mustang3
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2005-10-08 11:32 AM (#31458 - in reply to #31355)
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I am caught in the same dilemma ! have a great 97 Silverado1/2 ton. I t gets good gas milage [ for a truck] I want a GN with living QT.. but will my truck pull it. I am looking at and for a all aluminum to reduce the weight -- but OR has lots of mountains not too much flat land. Dealers --of course say the truck will be fine. But I have on desire to upgrade.
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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2005-10-08 6:31 PM (#31479 - in reply to #31355)
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Personally, I'd upgrade to a 3/4 ton if you want a LQ trailer. Yes a 1/2 would pull it but you'd be better off with more truck over mountains. I had a 1/2 ton that I hauled my LQ trailer with once ( and mine has no water tanks..its a small LQ) I had to go just a few miles loaded with one horse. I was suprised how much the trailer seemed to push the truck around. Yes it has eletric brakes and they worked however the sheer size and weight of the trailer was too much for the truck. It did pull it...it just didn't handle it well.
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cody
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2005-10-09 11:12 PM (#31505 - in reply to #31355)
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I have a F150, V8, 1/2 ton.  I pull a 3 horse GN and have no problems.  I had airbags put on the rear and never had to inflate them.  I have pulled this trailer fully loaded 30 miles straight - up and down hills.  I also pulled this trailer with 2 horses around 300 miles one way and over steep hills.  Not a problem.  My trailer weights 4100 pounds.
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jlwatson
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2005-10-10 2:08 PM (#31525 - in reply to #31355)
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I have a Chevy Silverado, V6, 4X2

My trailer weighs 2980, and my horse (draft) weighs close to 2000 lbs.

I can pull him alone just fine, or I can pull two lights around fine.

I don't win any races, but I get there. A bigger truck is not in my budget, my truck is also my daily truck, and I went with a smaller engine to reduce gas costs.
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mustang3
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2005-10-10 9:34 PM (#31553 - in reply to #31355)
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Well that is encouraging --- I have gotten so many conflicting opinions it is reassuring to hear from people who have the smaller trucks. My Z71 Chev is paid for has low miles and gets good gas milage. But I do want to do more endurance riding and want a trailer both the horse and I can sleep in... A light weight 2-horse GN is really hard to find. Trailer manufactures should start thinking about people like me.
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