Posted 2005-11-18 7:20 PM (#33234 - in reply to #31150) Subject: RE: Hey Brenderup People!
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read back a few posts- someone wanted to pull a Brender up with a 2002 4 cyl alero. I own and drive a alero- these are small passenger cars that are not meant to be pulling anything let alone a horse trailer. Thus my response. FYI- it was not posed as a question. My response is as valid sir.
Posted 2005-11-18 7:32 PM (#33235 - in reply to #33234) Subject: RE: Hey Brenderup People!
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Originally written by farmbabe on 2005-11-18 8:20 PM
read back a few posts- someone wanted to pull a Brender up with a 2002 4 cyl alero. I own and drive a alero- these are small passenger cars that are not meant to be pulling anything let alone a horse trailer. Thus my response. FYI- it was not posed as a question. My response is as valid sir.
uh....i know which post you were refering to. perhaps my post was not clear. my question to you was, do you actually think an alero unfit to pull a lawnmower?
and i would be curious as to the trailer rating of the aformentioned alero. im guessing the generic 1000# uni-body car rating???? or possibly has a disclaimer about not towing at all.
Posted 2005-11-21 7:22 AM (#33293 - in reply to #33237) Subject: RE: Hey Brenderup People!
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I think my GardenWay cart can carry up to 1,000 lbs...
Hmmmm...
THAT can be towed with a riding mower, or pulled by hand.
Surely an Alero could tow a GardenWay cart ?
Did the thread that started this ask about Alero or Aveo ?
So EASY to confuse/distort things as they get passed along (-:
Maybe a mini or a pony in the GardenWay cart behind a (New, I WANT one) Mini Cooper ?
Yeah, time to build a ramp for that cart and put a roof on it. Tie and hay net loops inside, bucket hooks and ties on each side on the outside.
Posted 2005-11-21 6:34 PM (#33310 - in reply to #33293) Subject: RE: Hey Brenderup People!
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Originally written by Reg on 2005-11-21 8:22 AM
I think my GardenWay cart can carry up to 1,000 lbs... Hmmmm... THAT can be towed with a riding mower, or pulled by hand. Surely an Alero could tow a GardenWay cart ? Did the thread that started this ask about Alero or Aveo ? So EASY to confuse/distort things as they get passed along (-: Maybe a mini or a pony in the GardenWay cart behind a (New, I WANT one) Mini Cooper ? Yeah, time to build a ramp for that cart and put a roof on it. Tie and hay net loops inside, bucket hooks and ties on each side on the outside.
sounds like a fine project to me, be sure to get pictures. and dont forget the "surge" brakes, in keeping with the brenderup theme.
saw a toyota echo with a little trailer with 4 rolling trash cans strapped neatly together, scooting down the interstate the other day.
Posted 2005-11-22 10:16 AM (#33323 - in reply to #31150) Subject: RE: Hey Brenderup People!
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to the person who owns the alero. Please, please be careful. You have just met the requirements to pull a Brenderup, but in all honesty, you should have checked out the Solo NOT the Royal. The Solo is only 1300lbs empty with a full load of 2600. Your vehicle is only 2950 with a horsepower of 140 maximum and the wheel base of 107. Brenderups only require 93" wheel base and engine of 120, but as I said you have just made it with a little left over. I personally would not have sold you a Royal. This is what happens when people are looking for bargains. the person who sold that to you obviously wasn't a dealer, right? The Royal fully loaded weighs more than your tow vehicle. Be careful that you don't ruin your vehicle too because you have exceeded their recommendations too. They don't have a tow capacity that I could find. How did you ever get a hitch? Is the hitch capable of towing 4400lbs? I doubt it. I would think maybe 2000 or 3500lbs. if you got a 3500 lb hitch then you are good for the tongue wieght of 175, but the rest of the numbers will not match. Your insurance company will have a field day with you if you have an accident. They will say that you didn't go by what your vehicle can handle. Insurance companies are always trying to wiggle out of claims and yours would be a "slam dunk". Good Luck and again, BE CAREFUL
Posted 2005-11-22 3:08 PM (#33336 - in reply to #33323) Subject: RE: Hey Brenderup People!
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Originally written by foxhunt on 2005-11-22 11:16 AM
How did you ever get a hitch? Is the hitch capable of towing 4400lbs?
both hitches at etrailer are rated at 3500#. and why would you ass-u-me that this person is going to load 2 horses? the royal with only 1 horse would come in around 3000# would it not? i will still ass-u-me that the 4 cyl is only rated at 1000#, maybe the v6 is good for 3500#??? i would be curious how a 4cyl alero would do with 3000#, though.
Posted 2005-11-22 3:16 PM (#33337 - in reply to #33323) Subject: RE: Hey Brenderup People!
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I am a fan of the Brenderup trailers and approach they take, and do think there is a need for more lightweight easy to tow trailers.
With that said, I just don't think it is wise for Brenderup to claim what the minimum tow vehicle requirements are. Their numbers clearly allow for unsafe setups and they are setting themselves up for a big lawsuit.
According to their numbers (93in WB and 125hp), you could pull their Baron trailer and two horses with a new Honda Civic sedan. I'm sure the Civic would pull it, but it clearly wouldn't be entirely safe out on the highways. There is a reason Honda has the Max. tow rating MUCH MUCH lower.
I do think you can get away with less "big truck" with their trailers, but I still believe that you can't exceed the tow vehicles ratings. I'm pretty sure the law is with me here as well. Not all 93in 125hp vehicles are created equal.
Posted 2005-11-28 3:38 PM (#33524 - in reply to #31150) Subject: RE: Hey Brenderup People!
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Don't forget that you also have to be able to get at least a class II hitch on the vehicle per Brenderup's website--I'm doubting that you can get one on a Civic.
Posted 2005-11-28 5:03 PM (#33531 - in reply to #31150) Subject: RE: Hey Brenderup People!
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These are good points as you don't want to exceed the auto manufactures tow ratings or the hitch manufactures tow ratings. If a reciever hitch comes with the new vehicle as part of a factory tow package, then the towing capacity rating of the vehicle set by it's manufacture has priority over the hitch companies ratings. Usually the vehicle manufactures rating is the same or less than the hitch manufacture as in a factory install, the hitch is now part of the vehicle. This is the same for tires, factory installed tires fall under the guidelines set by the vehicle manufacture, taking priority over what it says on the tire.
Most automatic transmissions will need an external oil cooler to do much towing and in smaller vehicles with manual transmissions will have about 1/2 the towing capacity of an automatic. As always you want to look at the whole picture to make towing decisions.