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cinqchevaux
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2005-09-25 11:29 AM (#30943)
Subject: Good trail horse


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Ok, is it just me or is finding a good, solid, sound, trail horse nearly impossible? I have been searching for nearly a year to find a well broke, not spooky, nonbuck, been there/done that trail horse, and they are no where to be found. I am not a trainer, and too old to deal with young colts. Maybe it's just my neck of the woods (more performance, less trail horses here). I've even considered looking in Idaho or Montana! Just venting my frustration.

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sable812
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2005-09-26 5:37 AM (#30964 - in reply to #30943)
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A good trail horse is hard to find. I have made mine from 2 year olds for a while. I just bought one that is made and I have watched for 4 years. He is 8. I paid $5000 for him and had to talk the guy into selling him. He is a TWH which makes him even a better buy.

I have sold 4 to 5 year old pushbutton trail horses for $6500 - $8500 with little or no trouble at all. Now I need a broke one myslef so I know what a buy I made at $5000.

Keep looking and be prepared to spend money. They are out there, they just are scarce.
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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2005-09-26 10:23 AM (#30975 - in reply to #30943)
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What breed are you looking for? What size of horse?
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robdnorm
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2005-09-26 11:02 AM (#30978 - in reply to #30943)
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We have a lady in KY that I have bought over five horses from.  Each one was well broke to the trail and did exactly what she said they would do.  She is constantly buying and selling and ships them all over the US.  She mainly deals with gaited horses though.  If that is what you are looking for, let me know and I will forward her information to you.
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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-09-26 11:11 AM (#30979 - in reply to #30943)
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I was going to post about trail horses being made instead of born, but you guys beat me to it.

Just some thoughts... most people that have put the miles and time into making a "good" trail horse has had him a long while.  It'd be pretty hard for me to give mine up after 6 years.  When I first got him, he spooked and snorted at almost everything.  The rides around the fields at home were a combination rodeo and battle of wills.  It wasn't pleasant.

Now, we can trail ride together with only a halter and leadline.  His quiet manner has gotten me out of several tough spots on the trails.  Plus he's a TWH with, an easy on my back, gait.   Excitement jumping over logs at a cluck, dependable on steep slopes and stopping from a full tilt gallop,  Yeah... I would have to be hard pressed to give him up.

I can sympathize with your search vent.

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bjhouten
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-09-26 12:05 PM (#30989 - in reply to #30943)
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I have a AQHA 1999 gelding out of a Docs Muchacho stud, and a Genuine Jazz
mare I'd sell for $3,500. He was trained as a cutter (shown 3 times) and I've trail ridden him alot. He'll go anywhere do anything. He's about 14.1, stocky build, bright red sorrell with four tall white socks and a blaze. I've had him since he was 3.5 months old. He has a smooth rocking chair lope that will keep pace with gaited horses, or he'll just shuffle along, if that's what you want. He's overwieght right now, because I haven't been riding him, and would need to be gotten into shape. I've team penned & sorted on him. I'd like to see him go to a home where he'd get ridden more often and be deeply loved. He is the same if you ride him every day or only get on him once every three or four months like I do. He had strangles two months ago, and is completely recovered. He's not a kid's horse, but anyone that has been riding for a year or more would get along fine with him. He has a fine coat, and never hairs up much, so you have to blanket him when it gets below 35 degrees.

I just don't have time for him, my show horse & a yearling.

-Betty
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Champhorse
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-09-26 4:31 PM (#31005 - in reply to #30943)
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There are a bunch of great trail horses in Texas that are cutters or ropers that just didn't make it. Most of these horses have been used for all-around ranch horses and have been hauled all over. I bought an AQHA double bred Doc Bar gelding with Poco Bueno, Cutter Bill, Cut a Gay Bar, and Teresa Tivio in his pedigree as an 8 year old with tons of trail miles on him for $2,500. I have had him for 4 years and he is a gem. We've carried flags in parades and have been on numerous trail rides - I would have a hard time even telling you what vices he has because I really haven't found any. There are so many great horses like he is around this area for less than $3,000. If you are thinking of coming this way, you could buy 2 or 3 of them, haul back to California, and probably pay for the one you keep by selling the others for $5,000 or more.
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cinqchevaux
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2005-09-29 6:50 PM (#31138 - in reply to #30943)
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Thanks all for your comments. I know the good trail horses are out there....somewhere. Hosspuller, I agree they're made not born, so perhaps by continuing to work on my snorty, bucking, afraid of every single thing, supposed ranch raised gelding, it will eventually pay off. I would like a horse I feel safe on, that will take care of me, not try to dump me when he gets scared (like my current mount has done). I had had a bad day riding, which is why I sent my original post. Unfortunately I won't be getting to Texas anytime soon, Champhorse, but it was a good idea! To answer your question Painted Horse: a 15h quarter or paint gelding.                 Ok, back out to the barn to do more sacking out...

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rose
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2005-09-29 8:24 PM (#31147 - in reply to #30943)
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Have a AQHA gelding for sale;  he has been a whole lot of places but not everywhere;  his name is "Bill's Easy Six" and you can see him on cloudfarms.com.  Professional horse transport from here to CA runs about $750.
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appy4me
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2005-09-30 8:48 AM (#31167 - in reply to #30943)
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I agree to a point that a good horse is made not born, but with that said...
I bought a 2 year old QH gelding in June as an "investment". The price was right, and he was a nice, registered, good looking horse as well. I figured I would break him, and re-sell him for a nice profit. He turned out to be so nice that we kept him and sold our older seasoned trail horse!! We haven't regretted the decision once! He walks up/down all hills, crosses everything, and is just quiet and sweet! I realize that miles will only make him better, but if you start with a good foundation, it makes all the difference in the world.
To make matters worse, I quickly and unexpectidly (sp) lost my great trail horse of 16 years and found myself "shopping". I (like you) wanted a seasoned and well broke horse!!! I want to enjoy my ride, not fight with my horse. I stumbled across a 3 year old QH Gelding, and I thought that there was no way a 3 year old would be quiet enough for what I wanted. Well, he is and I am really enjoying the rest of the trail riding season!!!
Just hang in there! The good ones are out there, sometimes you have to pay a little, but it's worth it.
I think finding a good horse is like finding a good job, you have to know someone.
(I knew both of the people that I bought my new horses from)
Diane
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david
Reg. Apr 2004
Posted 2005-09-30 11:37 AM (#31177 - in reply to #30943)
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You have to buy a good trail horse that has been ridden in the type of area where you are going to be riding.
If you buy a "good" trail horse in Texas, and you are going to ride him in West Va chances are he is not going to be at home. Different terain, different animals junping up out of the bushes, bears, wild turkeys snakes etc. Very different terrain. He might get used to it or he might not.
Same way with midwest horses ridden on flat ground , corn fields, crop land etc . Take him to Tenn. and the mountains will kill him. Straight up and straight down, with some deep creek banks with large rocks to step over.
They have to be acclimated to the area where you intend to use them.
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krys
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-09-30 11:19 PM (#31204 - in reply to #31138)
Subject: RE: Good trail horse


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I wish you had posted that about a month ago. A friend of mine was in a pinch for money and sold an 18 yr old appy gelding, kid and trail broke for $800. She also had a 8 yr old QH gelding that was a 4H horse and trail horse and does everything. She sold that one for $1200. The rest she is selling are ponies. Good broke trail horses are all over up here from about $800-$3500. Winter in setting in and people are selling horses cheap!! I wish I had more room where I could buy as "investments", but I would probably end up keeping them, like my last 2.
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heritage lane farm
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-10-02 8:39 AM (#31228 - in reply to #30943)
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If I would have repsonded to your post 15 years ago, I would have said "buy a weanling, and raise that good trail horse yourself, as I have done consistently since I was 14. However, in my "old age" ha! ha! I prefer to buy a "finished" trail horse. Besides the ones I have raised, I now own 2 additional ones, that put the ones I raised to shame. We became friends with a rancher, Nate Brown, of HorseWorks, Wyoming, while vacationing in the West. In the past 2 years, we purchased 2 horses from him, one sight unseen 2 years ago, the second I rode as a three year old on the 115 mile Outlaw Trail Ride in Wyoming last year, and then purchased him. Both these horses came through the Billings, Montana Livestock sale barn. Both were ranch born, and ranch worked. I contacted the breeder of the 3 year old via the sale barn catalog, which I happen to have because I followed the sale on the internet - how coincidental is that?? Shiek came from a ranch between Calgary and Edmond, Canada. I am sold on ranch horses. They know the meaning of work, and they are not spoiled. Roany, purchased sight unseen, can be roped off of, knows how to work cattle, will cross most anything, and no spook. He can work a gate, leave other horses with no fuss, traffic broke, etc. etc. Shiek, the now 4 year old was worked on BUFFALO! He also does all of the above. Both horses can be walked up to in the pasture, and travelled from Wyoming to Pennsylvania with no problems. The "scenery" in PA is not a problem. I have heard the argument before about horses not doing well if not in "their neck of the woods" That has not been a problem! We ride the Gettysburg Battlefield frequently, and are riding Manasass Battlefield on Tuesday. Believe me, the horses have not seen doubledecker tour buses in Wyoming or rural Canada! The horses are what cowboys call "good minded." Just as an aside, I do believe in genetics to a point. The 4 year old is Zippo Pine Bar on the dam's side, which came through in his personality. The bottom is Impressive, which appeared in color and confirmation. Roany, just 4 generations back, goes to Wimpy and Sugar Bars.         The Billings sale catalogs are regularly on the internet. The sale would be worth a trip, or visit HorseWorks Wyoming, and contact Nate, about 82 years young!

Brenda



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Champhorse
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-10-04 11:15 AM (#31311 - in reply to #30943)
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David -

I do agree that every area of the country will offer different terrain and elements, if your trail horse is trained properly, they know how to control emotions and don't "panic" every time they see something new. You can never expose your horse to everything you might encounter on a ride but if the horse understands how to act when something new shows up, it doesn't matter what that "something" is. For example, a couple of us rode a few weeks ago around the nearby lake and we decided to take the horses to the "Horse Beach" at the lake. When we got there, someone was in the inlet area Para-surfing. I had never see it before. They have these huge semi-circular parachutes attached to a wind board. Well, all the horses were curious and maybe not sure what to do, but none of them paniced, nobody took off, they all just watched and listened to us because they understood how to control their emotions. We even came up on someone lighting fireworks in their back yard last summer and my gelding just stood there (about 100 yards away) and watched the fireworks go off. The other 2 horses jumped sideways but then stopped and stood next to my gelding as we waited for the Roman Candles to finish shooting. I was really expecting all the horses to turn and take off but they didn't. To me, a good trail horse looks first to you to tell them what to do and if they do spook (and they all do at some time or another), it is maybe a jump sideways or a flinch or something minor but never a turn and run full bore to get away. The more you can train them to control the flight instinct, the better trail horse they are and it really doesn't matter where you ride them as long as they can physically handle the terrain and climate.



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Flooper
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2005-10-20 9:57 AM (#32051 - in reply to #30943)
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Buy an older, ugly ranch horse that's been rode up and down mile after mile of fence lines his whole life. The ugly one's have never been shown, being ranch horses they know how to work, will do what their asked, and have been ridden by people who won't put up with stupidity or silliness, so they don't even try to mess with you. And being older, they have pretty much seen and done it all. "Pretty" ain't very pretty when it's bucking, bolting and rearing!! Give me a stocky, 14 year old ugly ranch raised horse anyday!!
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lovecasino
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2005-11-09 5:57 PM (#32861 - in reply to #30943)
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I know what you mean. Sorry but I can't really help you there, I have 4 awsome trail horses. But one is suffering from biparte navicular ossification.

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john
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2005-11-10 6:10 PM (#32895 - in reply to #30943)
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we live in ohio we also was looking for good trail horses we needed 4   we kept watching  the local newspaper and the dairy magazine we found all for really good horses.all for under 8000.oo
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AbbyB
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2005-11-11 8:28 PM (#32929 - in reply to #30943)
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I also agree that you don't have to buy a "local" horse to have a good minded one on different types of trails & terrain.  I lived in MI, bought my mare in OH & showed her for a few yrs.  Moved to AZ....did nothing but trail riding thru the desert & mountains.  Bought my gelding while there, & rode him all over too.  (he was raised in KS).  Went to WY (Teton Wildeness) & rode all over up there.  Now we live in NW MT & are still riding these same horses all over up here in the mountains.  MI they saw cows & pigs & mostly flat ground.  Az they experienced riding up on Rattle snakes & wild boar.  Now up here we encounter bear & moose.  They are fine becuz they are good minded & athletic animals.

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marn
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-11-13 8:51 PM (#32990 - in reply to #30943)
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I just bought a new horse for a trail horse. My daughter finally decided riding is fun, so I found a cheap, "ugly" 4 yr old green broke horse. He fit my budget and I have time, so I figured why not. (my daughter rides our older one). He's turning out to be very quiet and good. I had him out today and he went where I wanted every time I asked. The ditches got a little steep, but he went steady and slow. I was a little leary about getting a green horse, but I think he'll be good for us. Every day a little more comes back to him from his 2yr old training. He's not the prettiest thing to look at, but if he rides well, I don't care what he looks like. I can't wait for spring to see what he can really do. Right now, I'm staying close to home and just keeping him familar with riding again.
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Posted 2005-11-20 2:42 PM (#33282 - in reply to #30943)
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Reg. Dec 1899
Posted 2005-11-20 2:48 PM (#33283 - in reply to #30943)
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My want to keep breed options open. Best trail horse, all around horse, nothing spooked her horse was an American Saddlebred. I have AQHA, Appendix, T-breds and have had gaited. Nothing will ever come close to that horse. She was an unspooky yearling that nothing bothered and loved people so she was a breeze to train. Wish I had her for my children! Good luck!
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marn
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-11-20 7:35 PM (#33286 - in reply to #30943)
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Well, my cheap, kinda ugly, green broke 4 year old trail horse is wonderful! I took him out yesterday with a few neighbors. His trot is still rough. Any suggestions to get a smoother trot?Anyway, he did VERY well! He seems to remember everything from when he was 2. He is very quiet and friendly. Goes from a lope right back into a quiet walk. Went up and down muddy slopes and through a little creek crossing. He was lead horse and rear horse without a fuss.I'm glad I took a chance a started a new a horse. I know I still have a long way and a lot of miles, but it looks like he'll be a good match for our family.Keep looking and keep your options open. Good trail horses are out there. But I defintely think they are created through time and effort.
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mustangrider
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2005-11-22 12:49 PM (#33328 - in reply to #30943)
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Come up to Washington to find your next trail horses.  There's lots of good, well broke critters going for $1,500 - $3,500 around here.
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Reg. Dec 1899
Posted 2005-11-29 6:47 PM (#33578 - in reply to #30943)
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Just my own personal opinion.....Don't waste your time tying to make a pain in the ass, bucking, snorting, spooky horse into a nice trail horse. When I set out to replace my 20yr old crazy quater horse mare with a nice calm trail horse, I ended up with a nice calm 4 year old. Not what I was expecting. He didn't know much, just plow reighned, but he has never spooked at anything and I feel safe on him. keep looking, and maybe broaden your search criteria. I also live in CA and i found my horse in CA.
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jillian
Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2005-12-03 5:56 PM (#33714 - in reply to #30943)
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I have seen several unsafe horses advertised as "ridden by a child", shown, been on many trail rides,etc.  These children bounced well when they were thrown.  Many Baby boomers are finally pursuing their dreams of owning a horse(s). Safety is of great importance, because nature is not as forgiving of injuries at that point in life.  Granted the raising and training of any animal is of great relavence, but heredity is also important.  I see lots of pros on TV featuring bloodlines known for winning in various disciplines, but have yet to see one promote a bloodline known for being more prone to being quiet.  Does anyone know of any such bloodlines for the various breeds?  Reliable equine brokers in the southeast?
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