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frogblossum
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2005-06-19 8:48 AM (#26770)
Subject: Which gear on Ford when pulling?



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Hello all!  I've throughly enjoyed reading questions and answers on this forum!

My question:

We recently purchased a Ford F250 Superduty and a 3 horse Cimarron gooseneck trailer.  Which gear do I pull in?  Would it be in D with the Tow/Haul button pushed in?  It just doesn't seem to have any "pick-up."  Thanks for any help!

Ellen

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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-06-19 9:09 AM (#26771 - in reply to #26770)
Subject: RE: Which gear on Ford when pulling?


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Originally written by frogblossum on 2005-06-19 8:48 AM

Hello all! I've throughly enjoyed reading questions and answers on this forum!

My question:

We recently purchased a Ford F250 Superduty and a 3 horse Cimarron gooseneck trailer. Which gear do I pull in? Would it be in D with the Tow/Haul button pushed in? It just doesn't seem to have any "pick-up." Thanks for any help!

Ellen



Hi and Welcome to the forum.

First RTOM (read the owners' manual), there SHOULD BE some guidance on towing, use of tow/haul mode, overdrive, etc.
Remember that a) you're driving a truck b) you're hauling horses c) you're driving a LOADED truck.
Don't expect a lot of "performance" and even if you have it try to not use most of it with horses in the trailer. As you can probably imagine, horses "lean into" the direction of acceleration and the more acceleration there is the harder it is on them (the horses).
JMAO, etc.
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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2005-06-19 9:40 AM (#26774 - in reply to #26770)
Subject: RE: Which gear on Ford when pulling?


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We have a Ford PD F 250 and I pull a 3 H trailer as well. I do not haul in tow mode, just put in drive and go. We don't have big hills just some steep grades ( not that bad really) I'd suggest getting the Superchip to give her some pep. We did and it made a big difference.
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johnnyr1965
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2005-06-19 1:35 PM (#26777 - in reply to #26770)
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I asked my Ford dealership the same question on my 2003.When the tow/haul button is pushed it pulls alot better on hills and grades.It also alows the trans. to shift down wich helps in breaking.I run on the interstate at speeds up to 80 with mine on.
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Reg
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-06-19 10:06 PM (#26779 - in reply to #26777)
Subject: RE: Which gear on Ford when pulling?


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Originally written by johnnyr1965 on 2005-06-19 1:35 PM

I asked my Ford dealership the same question on my 2003.When the tow/haul button is pushed it pulls alot better on hills and grades.It also alows the trans. to shift down wich helps in breaking.I run on the interstate at speeds up to 80 with mine on.


That IS what it is there for, to use when towing or hauling.
I don't understand why so many people seem to have so much trouble understanding that the use of a tow/haul function is ...ta Dahh to TOW or HAUL !

BTW, above about 60 there is essentially no difference. The delayed shift points have all happened and it isn't until you get down below 60 (maybe 55 on some models) that the tow/haul's effects come in again.

Hmmm, I won't tow horses at 80, I rarely go over 70.
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frogblossum
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2005-06-19 10:50 PM (#26782 - in reply to #26770)
Subject: RE: Which gear on Ford when pulling?



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I guess what I was asking was whether it's better to pull in "D" with the Tow/Haul engaged, or 3rd gear.  What's 3rd gear for anyway?  I'm not in any big hurry when pulling my horses (not looking for any more trouble than seems to find me anyway ).  I just noticed when following another 4 horse trailer they were able to accelerate faster when entering the highway.

Thanks to all who have responded.  I'll keep it in "D" with tow/haul engaged!!!

Ellen

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hav2ride
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-06-20 8:53 AM (#26795 - in reply to #26782)
Subject: RE: Which gear on Ford when pulling?


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ALWAYS tow in tow/haul mode!  You will compromise your engine and trans if you don't.  Don't worry about having zippy start ups.  Pulling at a steady pace will save your truck.  Don't gun ot up hills either.  Watch your tacometer and try to keep your RPMs at around 2500.  If your shift up into too high of gear, your engine will start to chug and you can have hard shifting.  Not good!
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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2005-06-20 12:18 PM (#26800 - in reply to #26795)
Subject: RE: Which gear on Ford when pulling?



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Why 2500?  When I'm hauling with the overdrive off (as dodge says to do) my rpms go up to about 3000.  If I turn it on they drop down to about 2200.  That is doing about 60.  I won't go any faster with my horses.   You should have seen some of the truck/trailers that passed me on the way to NM.  My husband said some of them passed him and he was doing 75-80.  Thats just NUTS!!
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RichB
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-06-20 1:18 PM (#26802 - in reply to #26782)
Subject: RE: Which gear on Ford when pulling?



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Frogblossum:  What year truck, what type of engine, manual or auto trans, what ratio rear end, how heavy is your trailer?

You may have some mechanical problems if your truck feels like a dog, depending upon the above info.  For example, my truck has plenty of power pulling a 10k lb trailer, it's the beginning gears that keep me slow at start off. But that's OK when your pulling horses. 

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hav2ride
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-06-20 1:27 PM (#26803 - in reply to #26800)
Subject: RE: Which gear on Ford when pulling?


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My ford tends to shift at around 2,800 to 3,000.  I was also talking about going up steep hills.  let it shift when it wants to on the flat.

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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-06-20 2:31 PM (#26810 - in reply to #26800)
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Originally written by Terri on 2005-06-20 1:18 PM

Why 2500?  When I'm hauling with the overdrive off (as dodge says to do) my rpms go up to about 3000.  If I turn it on they drop down to about 2200.  That is doing about 60.  I won't go any faster with my horses.   You should have seen some of the truck/trailers that passed me on the way to NM.  My husband said some of them passed him and he was doing 75-80.  Thats just NUTS!!

2500rpm means nothing.  without more info to compare it to....gas vs diesel, auto vs manual, rear end ratio. if you want to get really technical you need to know at what rpm your given engine achieves peak torque. that will be the most, for lack of a better word, "efficient" of course the road speed will be relavant to the trans, and rear end ratios.

for reference only, my gas inline 6 runs about 2200 at 60mph in D(3rd in my auto trans), pulling a large hill it will downshift to 2nd and run at about 4000 to maintain 60mph. my torque peak is at 3600rpm. the redline is 6300rpm. and yes reducing speed(mph)while climbing hills will lower rpms, saving the engine, transmission and fuel.



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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2005-06-20 5:48 PM (#26815 - in reply to #26770)
Subject: RE: Which gear on Ford when pulling?



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The question about what year and what model engine/tranny is very relevant. 1999 -early 2003 Superduties had a 7.3L engine with a Overdrive button.  Which basically locked you out of the top gear. So your tranny would use 1-2-3 and not use 4th gear.

If it's a Ford SuperDuty with a Tow/Haul button (and not an Overdrive Button) then it's a 2003 or newer with the TorqueShift 5 speed auto (and probably the 6.0L diesel - the gas engines didn't get the Torqueshift until 2004).

Put the truck in "D" and push the Tow/Haul button.  The tranny will delay the upshift and hold a little higher RPM in each gear.  This will prevent the Tranny from "HUNTING" gears so much on hills.  The tranny will try and keep the engine in the powerband vs letting the rpm's drop off and "lugging" the engine.

It also allows you to depress the brake on a downhill and use the engine for braking.

The 6.0L engine is a little under powered from a dead start. It has plenty of zip once you get the RPMs up. It's just starting out from dead start with a load, (especially on a grade)where it feels sluggish. Hence Ford is coming out with a 6.4L engine in 2007. There have been a number of computer  Re-flashes for this engine. (I think I've had 6 or 7 for my truck) If you bought a used truck you might check and see if you have the latest flash or if any of the newer flashes might help.  Also on my truck the power dropped off as two of my fuel injectors started to fail.  Onced replaced the original power was restored.

 

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