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yirsa
Posted 2018-07-31 11:06 AM (#171754)
Subject: 2003 sooner, 1997 4 star or 2003 Sundowner?


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Looking for opinions for a novice horse trailer shopper.
I am wanting to upgrade my old trailer a bit and have my eye on a 2003 21' sooner with AC in dressing but no other upgrades. It is local. Another trailer is a 1997 20' 4 star with nice LQ. It is out of state. The 3rd trailer is a local 2003 21' Sundowner with dressing, no air or upgrades. All are in nice shape. Sooner is $12000, 4 star is @$17000 delivered and Sundowner is $8000.
They are all 3 H slants with GN hitch.
Any strong educated opinions to help me out? I do use the dressing area in my current old Econolite to relax a bit when at clinics, etc.
Thank you in advance.
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diggerdoo
Posted 2018-07-31 11:49 AM (#171755 - in reply to #171754)
Subject: RE: 2003 sooner, 1997 4 star or 2003 Sundowner?


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I am a 4 Star fan, have a 2005 and it is a great trailer.  You can't hardly beat the older ones. 
 
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yirsa
Posted 2018-07-31 8:11 PM (#171759 - in reply to #171754)
Subject: RE: 2003 sooner, 1997 4 star or 2003 Sundowner?


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Thanks for your advice!
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diggerdoo
Posted 2018-08-01 2:19 PM (#171764 - in reply to #171759)
Subject: RE: 2003 sooner, 1997 4 star or 2003 Sundowner?


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I also had 3 Sundowners before the 4 Star.  They were nice but couldn't nowhere near the quality of the 4 Star.
 
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jmey1820
Posted 2018-08-06 9:47 AM (#171782 - in reply to #171754)
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Be wary of the 2003 sundowner if it is the steel frame, aluminum skin model.  That is when they were having major frame failures, I know because I had one.   
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yirsa
Posted 2018-08-06 12:21 PM (#171783 - in reply to #171754)
Subject: RE: 2003 sooner, 1997 4 star or 2003 Sundowner?


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We did learn through some more research to stay away from the Sundowners during about a 10 year period...1998-2008. Saw that in a few forums. Is it true? Boy, hard for me, the novice to know for sure!!
Starting peeking at some used Harts also.
The 2003 Sooner that is so close is a big temptation, too.
Good thing I don't need it tomorrow.LOL
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jmey1820
Posted 2018-08-07 7:18 AM (#171784 - in reply to #171754)
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It's true. I'm not positive on the exact years but what you wrote seems about right.  I had a 2003 727 which had the steel frame with aluminum skin.  It was not used hard and rarely hauled in the winter and I kept it clean after each use.   The frame was visually looked perfect but under the undercoating it was a huge rust fest.  I had to have the entire frame sandblasted, undercoated and two crossmembers had to be fully replaced.  
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RTSmith
Posted 2018-08-07 8:21 AM (#171785 - in reply to #171754)
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For what it is worth, not all Sundowners in that timeframe were steel framed. They made both those, and the all-aluminum models. 
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diggerdoo
Posted 2018-08-07 12:41 PM (#171788 - in reply to #171785)
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RTSmith - 2018-08-07 8:21 AM For what it is worth, not all Sundowners in that timeframe were steel framed. They made both those, and the all-aluminum models. 

True...I had a 2000 and a 2004, both were all aluminum.  It's in the VIN # which is which.
 
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Minty
Posted 2018-08-17 11:31 AM (#171817 - in reply to #171754)
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We have a 2005  Sundowner and through any proper care haven't had any more problems then any other trailer. we have some rust which is going to happen in winters with snow and salt...I wouldn't have any issues getting another Sundowner.
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Rockyroad
Posted 2018-08-18 7:51 AM (#171822 - in reply to #171754)
Subject: RE: 2003 sooner, 1997 4 star or 2003 Sundowner?


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My 2 cents worth - while the 4 Star is more than likely very well built, the appliances are over 20 years old.  And depending on how they have been used/maintained, it's definitely a possibility of them failing & most are not cheap to replace.
If the Sooner is in good condition (I would look it over really well to be sure all welds are good, floor is not pitted, etc & the AC works good), might be worth it to put some insulation & a couple things in it for what you need.  On an older trailer like that, I would check them over personally carefully, so if they are a long distance from you, you either need to go see in person or if you know of someone trustworthy/knowledgeble in that area to check for you. 
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