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TLR
Posted 2017-04-19 4:11 PM (#169801)
Subject: Have your papers in order.


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I want to give everyone a heads-up and friendly reminder to have your papers in order while traveling out west with your horses,especially in New Mexico. My wife and I always make our way to Arizona for the winter and always have a current Coggins and health certificate with us on the way west. As most of you know ,Coggins is good for 1 year but health certificate is only good for thirty days. Most years at the end of our three month stay, for one reason or another we have not renewed our health certificate for the trip back to Iowa. This year we were camped at Hay Creek Ranch in Oracle AZ just before our trip home. Doug, the owner was going to be transporting horses back to SD for his summer season,so he had a vet coming to camp to check his horses. As several of us were heading home soon we decided to update our heath certificates, Boy,are we glad we did! On our way across I-40 and just west of Alburquerque NM we encountered a Deputy from NM  Board of Agriculture sitting in the median As we passed, he flashed his lights at me. I was about five miles over so I thought he was just warning me to slow down,but no he stopped us and checked our horse papers. Luckily we had them this year. I'm not sure what the penalty is but I'm sure it would have ruined our day. Does anyone know from experience?
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DLR
Posted 2017-04-20 5:37 AM (#169805 - in reply to #169801)
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   "As most of you know ,Coggins is good for 1 year"  That's not true, each state has their own rules.  Iowa is good for 6 months - not a year.  Wisconsin is good for a calendar year, ie: if you get one in May, it expires on December 31.

I agree that you need to have your papers in order including the Branding  papers for several western states which is about proving ownership not a mark (brand) on the horse.
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Jaas
Posted 2017-04-20 1:25 PM (#169807 - in reply to #169801)
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I think coggins testing is good for 12 months in Iowa, for horses 6 months and older.  http://www.haulhorses.com/Resources/allstateequinetransportrequirements.pdf
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PaulChristenson
Posted 2017-04-20 3:38 PM (#169809 - in reply to #169801)
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Here's what you need to go INTO Florida...
http://www.freshfromflorida.com/content/download/35263/830148/EquineRequirements.pdf 
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PaulChristenson
Posted 2017-04-20 3:43 PM (#169810 - in reply to #169801)
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 Most states require the CVI within 30 days of transport, but others only honor one that has been done in the 10 days prior to transport. Several states (Montana, Arizona and Oregon) additionally require a permit prior to entry; their state regulatory office must be contacted to issue approval and a permit number to include on the CVI.

CVI is a certificate of veterinary inspection. This health certificate, filled out following a veterinary exam, is meant to ensure that a horse has a clean bill of health and is not infected with a contagious disease--most notably, respiratory or skin ailments.
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TLR
Posted 2017-04-21 8:23 AM (#169811 - in reply to #169801)
Subject: RE: Have your papers in order.


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 Thanks Jaas, for your informative Link. after looking at Iowa, Az and NM , it would appear that some of or responders my have been  
mis-informed. I will save the link for my future travels. Nobody seems to have any experience with what the penalties would be for non-compliance.
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PaulChristenson
Posted 2017-04-22 11:55 PM (#169812 - in reply to #169810)
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PaulChristenson - 2017-04-20 6:43 PM  Most states require the CVI within 30 days of transport, but others only honor one that has been done in the 10 days prior to transport. Several states (Montana, Arizona and Oregon) additionally require a permit prior to entry; their state regulatory office must be contacted to issue approval and a permit number to include on the CVI.

CVI is a certificate of veterinary inspection. This health certificate, filled out following a veterinary exam, is meant to ensure that a horse has a clean bill of health and is not infected with a contagious disease--most notably, respiratory or skin ailments.
Arizona has changed their rules......haven't hauled that way in quite a while...
  1. An original health certificate issued by an accredited veterinarian within 30 days prior to entry. A detailed description of the horse should be recorded on the certificate. Photocopies of health certificates must have an original veterinarian signature.
  2. A negative test for Equine Infectious Anemia (EIA) is required within 12 months of entry and the results must be recorded on the health certificate, along with the testing laboratory, date of test, and laboratory accession number. EIA test pending horses may not enter Arizona. Either the AGID test or the ELISA test is acceptable.
  3. Prior entry permit not required.
  4. For more information, call (602)542-4293 from 8AM to 5PM Arizona time Monday through Friday.

https://agriculture.az.gov/importation-requirement-horses-include 

Edited by PaulChristenson 2017-04-23 12:00 AM
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grider1
Posted 2017-04-23 7:37 AM (#169813 - in reply to #169805)
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We are Arizona snowbirds also and was stoped in N.M.we had are papers in order except our health certicate was not we always get one a week before we leave Indiana.We leave the end of Oct and come back the first of April.The inspector said nothing of not having an up to date health certicate.He look at are papers and told us to have a safe trip.
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huntseat
Posted 2017-04-29 2:41 PM (#169832 - in reply to #169801)
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Some states around Texas also require specific wording on those health certificates, always contact the state vet board to see what requirements are needed. They can and will change by season and in the face of an outbreak. I've even had to put exact wording on my cattle heath papers for Texas and touching states, most notably about the Vesicular Stomatitis outbreaks in Texas. Google is your friend as well as calling a vet school inside the state you are traveling to ask about current issues.
In our area we have to get horses vaccinated twice a year for West Nile and Encephalitis...most people from out of state don't know that and sadly come with a horse lacking a strong enough immune response.

http://www.usaha.org/upload/Federal%20and%20State%20Health/StateAnimalHealthOfficials_rev.pdf
 

Edited by huntseat 2017-04-29 2:45 PM
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Jeepplr
Posted 2017-05-01 10:06 AM (#169840 - in reply to #169801)
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Forgive my ignorance of this process but how are the horses inspected? Do you have to pull into weigh stations? What do you do if the weigh station is closed?
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HOUSE
Posted 2017-05-01 4:01 PM (#169843 - in reply to #169801)
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I think all states require that you check in at the scale/brand inspector office when you cross state lines with livestock.  I know some people who are not as good about seeing the "All Livestock most stop sign", and they dont seem to have issues.  Most of the time the officers have no idea what you paperwork is supposed to look like, but occationally you will get a livestock enforcement agent but in my experince it is rare.  The only time I have had any person actually want to see the horses was when I crossed from Canada to the US.  Most of theses scale houses try to get money out of your, so it is important that if you are not commercial you are very clear on what you are doing, ie dont use terms like rodeo, or horse show when in fact what you are attending is a demonstration or an exhibition.  Also not sure what you do  but I always make sure that when I cross state lines that any money  i may receieve is fuel reimbursements rather than compensation.   Just be careful, and dont say too much and it is normally just a hassel more than anything.

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cajunmuleman
Posted 2017-05-01 5:19 PM (#169844 - in reply to #169801)
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I found out that in Florida they are call "Agriculture Check Points". I am use to the term livestock and did not stop ( until told to stop by the cop). I thought agriculture was crops, like oranges, tomatoes, etc
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Jeepplr
Posted 2017-05-01 6:05 PM (#169846 - in reply to #169843)
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I understand the noncommercial thing, we have that same thing in aviation, don't let anyone think you are being paid for the flight.
So me and my LQ trailer will have to stop at the first weigh stations in each state.
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kooner
Posted 2017-05-01 7:15 PM (#169847 - in reply to #169801)
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I have always lived in the western states and do not stop at weigh staions, most of them have a sign that says trailers and or commerical, the wording trailer does not apply to horse's, if you are going to be stoped it will usually be a brand inspecter then you need your ownership papers in order more so than health, Colorado does not recognize breed papers but does a bill of sale and what ever is on a brand card and also health certs. good luck in your travels and do not get overly worried as to how to do it as if they want you they will send a trooper to check you out.
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HOUSE
Posted 2017-05-02 5:12 PM (#169852 - in reply to #169801)
Subject: RE: Have your papers in order.


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i  find colorado the worst state i go into, on 70 they stop all towed vehicles, so my toy hauler with my wagon needs to stop too.  you need a coggins and a current (with in 30 days) health cert.  again if you dont see the sign you dont need to stop, but I always try to obey the letter of the law to the best of my abiility even if i am on the very frindge. i figure it is better try to comply rather than get run down.
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