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henrynva
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2012-05-16 11:04 AM (#143984)
Subject: When to Lube Ez-Lube Axles?


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If when you have the rubber seal removed that exposes the grease nipple, is there any clear way to tell when you need to inject grease into the Ez-Lube axle? If you look into the hub with a light and still see grease does that indicate there is enough grease? Or, should the hub always be full of grease. Obviously, if you overlube them you run the risk of grease running into the brake shoes. Or, is just a couple of shots a year the best approach. But if you didn't tow more a couple of thousand miles a year, then that approach could result in too much grease over time. I have been using John Deere Lithum General Purpose grease (same as I use on the farm tractor) on the axles on a dump trailer that also has EZ-lube nipples. I'm thinking that less frequent greasing is better?

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Kay
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2012-05-16 12:03 PM (#143985 - in reply to #143984)
Subject: RE: When to Lube Ez-Lube Axles?


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We love EZ Lube axles and Bearing Buddies.  They are job security for us because they are so widely overused.  Your best program would be to hand pack your bearings every year or two, depending on your mileage.  Long periods of non-use are damaging to bearings too, from condensation.  Just for an example, it costs more in time to de-grease a brake assembly that is packed with bearing grease that was forced through the seal and into the assembly than it costs to replace the assembly.  Even then, the shoes seem to disenegrate easily after being soaked in grease.  Blowing a seal from too much grease pressure will certainly have you off the road eventually, with lots of possible damage to bearings, axle spindle, and/or hub.  Moderation, people, moderation.
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skippyvcu
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2012-05-16 3:33 PM (#143988 - in reply to #143984)
Subject: RE: When to Lube Ez-Lube Axles?


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I was going to lube our EZ-Lube axles and got out the owners manual to see how to complete the job.  The manual explains how to add grease, stopping when you see grease in the chamber, and further states that the bearings should be inspected and repacked every 12 months.

The system has a grease fitting on the end of the axle and a small hole that allows the grease to enter the hub just to the inside of the inner bearing (between the inner and outer bearings).  I am not an engineer but it doesn't appear logical to me that the grease will push into the inner bearing without pushing something out of the inner seal.  I treat the axles as standard axles.  Four seals and new grease every 12 months is a lot cheaper than replacing brake components.

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hornet
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2012-05-16 8:55 PM (#143994 - in reply to #143984)
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Don't tear my head off here, but why is it that the bearings on your vehicle are recommended for repacking every 50,000-100,000 miles or so but trailers some how need to be done yearly at a fraction of those miles? The design and the seals are basically the same.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2012-05-17 8:25 PM (#144016 - in reply to #143984)
Subject: RE: When to Lube Ez-Lube Axles?


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The big issue is the YEARLY INSPECTION of the bearings...which requires them to be regreased...one reason is that some people (NOT US...) DO OVERLOAD their trailers which can lead to damage of the bearings.

Edited by PaulChristenson 2012-05-17 8:26 PM
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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2012-05-18 10:24 AM (#144028 - in reply to #143994)
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Originally written by hornet on 2012-05-16 8:55 PM

Don't tear my head off here, but why is it that the bearings on your vehicle are recommended for repacking every 50,000-100,000 miles or so but trailers some how need to be done yearly at a fraction of those miles? The design and the seals are basically the same.
Vehicle bearings generally do not have the same kind of lateral pressures applied to the trailer axles from turning, especially tight turns.
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hornet
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2012-05-18 11:10 AM (#144030 - in reply to #143984)
Subject: RE: When to Lube Ez-Lube Axles?


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Well that all sounds good, just like the 3 month 3000 mile oil changes that jify lube promotes. Don't take it wrong here, I'm all about doing maintenance on vehicles but I've never agreed with tearing bearings apart annually. I'll do through inspections through out the year, including jacking the tires up checking for end play and noise. At 4-5 years I'll repack the bearings, but even then I've only put about 12,000 miles on the trailer. I guess what I'm getting at is "who" came up with the annual tear down. I deal with companies that sell equipment with a mandatory annual maintenance fee, and that just smells funny to me, similar to annual bearing jobs. Sorry to have hijacked this thread.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-05-18 12:04 PM (#144034 - in reply to #143984)
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I agree with Hornet. If your state doesn't require an annual inspection of the brakes, there is absolutely no need to repack the bearings every year, unless you're annually running 50K or so. In fact, the frequent handling of the bearings can introduce more problems, than if they are left alone. Once they are properly greased with a quality product and torqued, they have a long life span.

Before front wheel drive cars, the front bearings were a tapered roller style, just like trailer bearings. Their maintenance was required at ~50 K or so, and there were very few failures. This is also considering the lubricants available then, much before the proliferation of today's modern synthetics.

Trailers do not endure the side loading "G" forces that a vehicle encounters when turning. That trailer's loading is also distributed over four tires in close proximity, with the end of the trailer being supported by the towing vehicle. A vehicle turning, has more side loading than a towed vehicle, following in a shallower radius turn.

I know that I'm preaching to deaf ears, but if you don't need an annual inspection, and you do not have Easy Lube axles, Bearing Buddies will give you many years of trouble free service, under the most of extreme conditions, with almost zero maintenance.

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Kay
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2012-05-19 7:43 AM (#144044 - in reply to #143984)
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Gard, maybe I didn't make my point clear.  It isn't the EZ Lube axles or the Breaering Buddies that are the problem.  It is the misuse of these products.  I can't begin to estimate the number of brake assemblies  packed solid with grease that we see.  The complaint that brings the trailer in is usually that the brakes don't seem to be working, even though the controller checks OK.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-05-19 8:04 AM (#144045 - in reply to #143984)
Subject: RE: When to Lube Ez-Lube Axles?


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We've had this discussion several times before. I agree with you Kay, too much lubrication can and will damage the brake mechanisms, and prevent proper actuation of the components.

My points were that the lubricant does not wear out in one year, and that frequent disassembly and handling of the bearings can do more damage than good. Bearing Buddies are not applicable in every situation, but when they are properly utilised, they are a welcomed accessory.

Any maintenance has to be performed in a logical fashion. Some times too much lubrication can be as detrimental as not enough. I'm sure your shop would be overwhelmed with customers, if each one doubled the amount of grease they installed in those little axle fittings. "You can't see inside, so there can't be anything wrong with a little extra."

Hope you have a great summer

 

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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2012-05-19 12:58 PM (#144056 - in reply to #143984)
Subject: RE: When to Lube Ez-Lube Axles?


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I've posted this before but it bears repeating again ...

The previous owner of my trailer did me a favor before I drove off with the trailer.  He made sure my axles were lubed.  I watched him use the grease gun on the Zerk fittings.

After I got home with the empty trailer, this is what I found ...

 

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2012-05-19 5:08 PM (#144063 - in reply to #144056)
Subject: RE: When to Lube Ez-Lube Axles?


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Originally written by hosspuller on 2012-05-19 12:58 PM

 

I've posted this before but it bears repeating again ...

The previous owner of my trailer did me a favor before I drove off with the trailer.  He made sure my axles were lubed.  I watched him use the grease gun on the Zerk fittings.

After I got home with the empty trailer, this is what I found ...

 



You have to count the number of pumps on the grease gun's handle...:)
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henrynva
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2012-05-19 7:59 PM (#144069 - in reply to #143984)
Subject: RE: When to Lube Ez-Lube Axles?


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Well, even with a safety inspection in VA, I don't intend to have the bearings repacked every year. That would not make much sense to me if I'm towing less than 5K yearly. Then back to the original question, assuming low annual tow mileage, annually should I add 1-2 shots of grease or none at all? It would seem that axle manufacturers would compete for the life-time no hassle permanently greased hubs. I had a previous FL trailer that I had the bearings repacked after 5 years. That trailer did not have EZ-Lube axles. Without that feature, it's easier not to be considered as to whether to add grease or not.

Edited by henrynva 2012-05-19 8:02 PM
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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2012-05-26 10:29 AM (#144229 - in reply to #143984)
Subject: RE: When to Lube Ez-Lube Axles?


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OP ...the original question should you pump lube into an Eze lube ... I don't.    I do use the trailer every couple of weeks at least.  2000 miles per year at most.   I repack every few years.   Consider ... grease is only oil with a thickener.  The thickener serves to hold the oil in place and in reserve.  But the oil eventually is depleted or oxidizes.   A trailer that isn't used, doesn't move new grease into the bearing elements.  So, the oil oxidizes.  A trailer that travels 20,000 miles per year has grease that is depleted of oil.  Either of these situations, the axle needs fresh grease annually. 

Another situation is the trailer that is used a lot on unpaved roads or fording water.  The dirt works past the seals and wears the bearings.  I would repack this trailer annually to remove the dirt.

Hence, the recommendation to repack annually.  It really depends on the usage, but the factory's lawyers say otherwise.

 

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