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dweber2000
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2012-03-13 11:55 PM (#142058)
Subject: King Ranch F250. 2005




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Please tell me if this is a good choice truck. I pull 1 horse and a Sundowner 8 ft LQ aluminum. I think I have heard they were not good trucks but cannot remember why. It is a dually and has had factory EFG? Replaced. Want 26K. What do you think? I currently have 2002 F259 gas and it is not doing very well. Thanks so much. Forgot to say 2005 has 76k miles.
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dweber2000
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2012-03-13 11:56 PM (#142059 - in reply to #142058)
Subject: RE: King Ranch F250. 2005




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Currently have 2002F250, sorry.
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Zipitude
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2012-03-14 12:20 AM (#142060 - in reply to #142058)
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You probably mean it had the EGR replaced. If it's a 6.0 Powerstroke, I would stay away from it. Not a very reliable engine. I'm not a Ford fan to begin with, but even the Ford people will tell you the same about these particular engines.
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dweber2000
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2012-03-14 12:28 AM (#142061 - in reply to #142058)
Subject: RE: King Ranch F250. 2005




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Well, I agree. I have had all kinds of issues with 2002. What make would you recommend?
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Zipitude
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2012-03-14 10:20 AM (#142072 - in reply to #142058)
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Personally, I like both GM and Dodge trucks. The Duramax has been a good engine, and you definitly can't go wrong with the Cummins in a Dodge. It's really a matter of personal preferance and what works best for you.
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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2012-03-14 10:38 AM (#142074 - in reply to #142058)
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I have the 2005 F350 King Ranch crew cab SRW. If the EGR has been replaced it should be a good truck. By 05 most of the problems the 6.0 had were worked out. Price sounds pretty good. Otherwise I am a fan of the Duramax also. Been around since 2000 with just a few minor tweeks done. We're thinking of getting a newer truck, just haven't found the one we want yet. I am happy with my F350 though. I won't buy a 6.4. My friends that have them want their 6.0's back or the new 6.7.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2012-03-14 12:34 PM (#142078 - in reply to #142058)
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Get a Duramax before the major emissions add-ons...1st 1/2 of 2007 classics meet the criteria...
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dweber2000
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2012-03-26 10:24 PM (#142516 - in reply to #142058)
Subject: RE: King Ranch F250. 2005




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Thanks. Overwhelming decisions bc cannot afford new one.:(
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Ike
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2012-03-28 1:32 PM (#142576 - in reply to #142058)
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dweber, I have a 05 F250 KR.  175k miles so far. You said its a dually.  Do you mean its a F350? 250 is single axle only. 350 can be had either way.

I am happy with my truck, however the 6.0 is expensive to maintain.  I've replaced the EGR and the Fuel Injection Control Module. These are the most common items to replace. But once done its a good motor.

 

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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2012-03-28 6:09 PM (#142582 - in reply to #142058)
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I had a 2006 F350 King Ranch.I put 108,000 miles on mine before I bought my 2011 6.7L. I worked it hard towing almost dailly.the dealer

The FCIM seems to fail before 100,000 mile and so does the HPOP. I think I paid the dealer less than $2000 to replace them and several glow plugs.  That is a enough money to hurt somebodys budget. But once done, The trucks seem to run very well. 

 

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dweber2000
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2012-03-28 8:25 PM (#142592 - in reply to #142058)
Subject: RE: King Ranch F250. 2005




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Thanks so much. My income is not enough to support me in style, it seems. Doeople ever lease trucks that pull 5th wheels? Where would I look for this option?
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RubyDoo
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2012-03-28 9:05 PM (#142596 - in reply to #142058)
Subject: RE: King Ranch F250. 2005


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We have an 05  F350 . We did have to  delete the EGR cooler, but that was fairly inexpensive. Other than that, no other issues.  I will say the 7.3 engine was a better engine, had more power and got better fuel mileage.  Lots of different stories on the 6.0, some have had their problems.  That being said, my husband works for a company that rebuilds diesel engines.  He works over 50 hours a a week and most of what they do is Duramax.  The cranks aren't hard enough and strong enough to withstand the torque that is put on them.    They either break or spin a bearing.   Said he would never own one.  So I guess everybody has an opinion.
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Zipitude
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2012-03-28 9:24 PM (#142597 - in reply to #142596)
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Funny, I have 208,000 mile on my Duramax and have never had a crank problem, nor have I ever even heard of this problem before. Now injectors or head gskets, that's another story! I have several friends with Duramax engines, also with no issues. Head bolts are an issue, but only on "Juiced up" high horsepower engines putting out more than 500 HP.
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henrynva
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2012-03-29 8:25 AM (#142609 - in reply to #142058)
Subject: RE: King Ranch F250. 2005


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I am the original owner of a 2001 Duramax. One of the two first delivered in VA on 12/3/00. These early models have had some problems. Mine has had these engine components replaced in this order: fuel pressure regulator and sensor to solve "loppy idle", injectors, and the biggie late last year, head gaskets that lead at the same time to replace the water pump as insurance. The early models used lammenated riveted head gaskets that over many heating and cooling cycles can separate and develop leaks. Took 10 years in my case. Mine leaked near a cooling fluid channel, pressurized the cooling system and blew the coolant out. I have a lot of pictures of the cab off head gasket rebuild, but can't figure out how to post them here? Even with these problems it has been a great truck. All diesel engines are expensive to repair if anything breaks. The injectors were moved outside of the heads I think in the 2005 models, but may have been mid year 2004. I have never heard of any crank bearing problems on the Duramax engines used in these trucks. The mechanic that knows these well would have reported that in our lengthy discussions. My Virginia license plate reads: DURAMAX.
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retento
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Posted 2012-03-29 10:50 AM (#142612 - in reply to #142058)
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This is what's spinning bearings and breaking cranks in the Duramax engines... Never heard of a stock Duramax with a bad crank...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rpwn7i6L4Q

 

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-03-29 11:32 AM (#142613 - in reply to #142058)
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Quite interesting responses to the video
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RubyDoo
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2012-03-29 1:45 PM (#142616 - in reply to #142613)
Subject: RE: King Ranch F250. 2005


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All I know is my husband brings home a good paycheck every week courtesy of blown up Duramax engines. Don't need anybody's mechanic to tell me that.

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dozerdan
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2012-03-29 8:58 PM (#142630 - in reply to #142058)
Subject: RE: King Ranch F250. 2005


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Here is a good picture of the difference in connecting rods amoung the 3 engines.  Cummins by far has a better connecting rod.  I now have a Duramax (2005), got rid of my Powerstroke-many problems.  Will see if can last.
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gard
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Posted 2012-03-29 10:31 PM (#142637 - in reply to #142058)
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A direct comparison of the physical rod sizes should only be between the Ford and Duramax. Both are V 8's and share similar displacements. The CC displacement of the cylinders of both engines are similarly sized, yet the Ford rods have larger bosses and bearing surface areas.

The Cummins also has a similar total displacement as the other two engines, yet it has two fewer cylinders. Thus each cylinder has to be proportionately larger than those of the V 8s. Each piston and cylinder is larger to produce the same amount of overall volume. The rod sizes and bearing areas, are also increased to provide the necesary durability in their connection to the crank.

The comparison of the Cummins' rod sizes to the other engines is not an apple to apple correlation. Cummins, because of its well known durability, has obviously chosen well in its design specifications.

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2012-03-29 11:47 PM (#142639 - in reply to #142058)
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The other issue...is CHIPPING any of these diesels can shorten their productive lives...and in the case of the Duramax...eliminating your warranty...many hard luck stories can be found of people who chipped their motor to produce LARGE HP and then tell the tale of something breaking and discovering the companies have ways of discovering the changes in the engine configuration
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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2012-03-31 9:47 AM (#142666 - in reply to #142058)
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I have friends and neighbors that drive their choice of one of the big three diesels ( and some other neighbors driving Toyota and Nissan trucks)  Over the years I've watched ( or helped tow them) in for service. No brand is immune. 

It is so easy to chip or program modern trucks and any truck that has been souped up runs the risk of a shorter life or higher maintainence. The old saying, " If you play be prepared to pay" is very true.

I had a 2003 6.0L built the first week of production.  I left it stock and had a few of the problems that engine become know for.  VGT, ICP, FCIM and glow plugs.  I was never left stranded, All work was done under warranty. It had more power and better fuel mileage than my 2000 7.3L So other than 7-10 days in the shop over a 100,000 miles  I really couldn't complain about that truck.

My 2006 6.0L was asked to work harder. I had an Edge Evolution programer, That I always left in stock or ecconomy setting. I never once turned it up to powerful or race tunes. I used it more to monitor the engine, egt temps, clear check engine lights, reset the tire size etc. I also installed a B&D Performance Exhaust brake since I was towing a large 4h LQ and right at the limits for this trucks tow ratings.  I frequently tow up and descend 7-8% highway grades here in Utah/Wyoming. So I wanted the extra braking.   Again this 6.0L had pretty much the same common failures.  FCIM( fuel control Injector Module) HPOP ( High Pressure Oil Pump) and 4 glow plugs over the 108,000 miles that I owned that truck. Everything was covered under my 100,000 mile powertrain warranty, But If I would have had to pay, It was around $2000 in repair cost.

Maybe I had good luck with my 6.0L engines. Maybe the 100,000 miles I ran them before selling them off is just shy of where serious problems start to emerge, Maybe because I kept the oil changed every 5,000 and didn't program them to higher horsepower tunes, Maybe because I didn't abuse the engine I had no problems.  Who knows, My experience with the 6.0L was not problematic and I personally wouldn't avoid the engine, as long as it had been taken care of.  But I would put a nest egg away to cover the common problems if the truck is past 100,000 miles or its 5 year warranty.

 

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bigredky
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2012-03-31 10:39 AM (#142668 - in reply to #142058)
Subject: RE: King Ranch F250. 2005


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I WORK IN A SCHOOL SYSTEM IN THE MAINTENANCE .WE HAVE 03,O5,06,O7 MODELS,THE
03 HAS THE EGR UDPLUGED .THE OTHER'S RUN GREAT. AT SAME TIME I DRIVE A 08 6.4
THAT HAS BEEN IN SHOP MORE THAN OTHER'S PUT TO GATHER. I BOUGHT A 04, LAST
APRIL THAT HAD 28'OOO MILES ON IT. NOW A YEAR LATER 43,000 MILES RUN'S GREAT.
IF YOU DO EGR,KIT YOU CAN THEM NOW @ 2OO BUCK'S ABOUT 6-8 HR JOB .
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2012-03-31 1:47 PM (#142675 - in reply to #142668)
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Originally written by bigredky on 2012-03-31 10:39 AM

I WORK IN A SCHOOL SYSTEM IN THE MAINTENANCE .WE HAVE 03,O5,06,O7 MODELS,THE 03 HAS THE EGR UDPLUGED .THE OTHER'S RUN GREAT. AT SAME TIME I DRIVE A 08 6.4THAT HAS BEEN IN SHOP MORE THAN OTHER'S PUT TO GATHER. I BOUGHT A 04, LAST APRIL THAT HAD 28'OOO MILES ON IT. NOW A YEAR LATER 43,000 MILES RUN'S GREAT.IF YOU DO EGR,KIT YOU CAN THEM NOW @ 2OO BUCK'S ABOUT 6-8 HR JOB .
I would NOT advertise the fact about disabled EGRs...It is against Federal Law for a “professional mechanic” to disable an emission control part on an automobile, or work on an automobile that has had its emissions system removed or modified. However, it is not against Federal Law for the owner of the automobile to disable or remove emission control equipment. BTW Federal law is effective in all 50 states. State laws vary from state to state and may hold the automobile owner residing in that State accountable for non-functioning or missing emissions components.
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