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OnTheRoadAgain
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2011-09-29 7:37 AM (#137915)
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Help! I just bought a used 2004 Chevy Silverado 1500 from a dealer. I had it checked by a mechanic and it seemed to be running fine. Dealership fixed a couple of minor issues with it. I drove it to work this morning (about 15 miles on the highway) and noticed a slight shake to the vehicle. I haven't hooked it up to my horse trailer yet, as the brake controller can't be installed til tomorrow. But now I am just really concerned about this truck having the same issue as my last tow vehicle....mainly as it got older it lost a lot of its original power and kind of struggled to pull the trailer. I don't know any mechanics that are expert tow vehicle mechanics; my mechanics are decent, but its hard to describe to them what is going on when the trailer is not attached.

I guess I am wondering if I should try to get out of this deal, if that is even possible. Any advice would be appeciated!

BTW, I am only pulling a 2700 lb 2 horse with one horse so truck should be well within towing limits.

 

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301duster
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2011-09-29 7:56 AM (#137916 - in reply to #137915)
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What kind of shake?? When shifting or when driving? Tires balance would be the first thing to check if it's just at driving speed. If it's shaking during shifts, then you might have reason to worry, otherwise have the tires balanced and rotated or replaced???
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2011-09-29 8:47 AM (#137920 - in reply to #137915)
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Tire balancing, wheel alignment, worn shock absorbers, tire cord breakage, flat spotted tires, worn suspension or steering components, worn "U" joints, a bent or unbalanced drive shaft can all attribute to "shaking".

Most gas drive trains can produce in excess of 90% of their initial horse power, with well over 150K of mileage if properly maintained. Replacing worn components, fluids and filters will go a long way in maintaining the drive trains' reliability and power.

With the relatively small decrease in power over a lengthy time period, most people would not recognise any degration in performance. Much of the change could be reflected in carrying additional materials in the trailer, traveling new routes or pulling different equipment. Maintaing proper tire pressures on both the truck and trailer, will also lessen  differences in towing abilities over time. Upgrading from trailer biased ply tires to radials, will lower the effort needed by the towing vehicle. It can be surprising to notice the change in how a truck feels, when towing a different trailer. Some are barely noticeable, whilst others always let you know you've really got a hold of "something".

A good mechanic should be able to source the truck's vibration. It may be a simple fix or a complex drivetrain difficulty. A professional should be able to tell you exactly what is wrong.

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OnTheRoadAgain
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2011-09-29 9:22 AM (#137921 - in reply to #137915)
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Thank you for the information. That is really interesting, and something I wished I known before I had traded my old truck. Maybe I could have gotten a year or two more out of it.

The tires look good to me on the new truck, but I don't know if they are balanced.  The truck also pulls to the left. It did it during the test drive, they said they took care of it, but I noticed it again as I was driving at higher speeds.  I know this is an older truck, but I still don't want to have to put a lot of money into something I just paid a lot of money for.

The deal isn't finalized yet, so I'm feeling a bit conflicted as to what to do.

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OnTheRoadAgain
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2011-09-29 10:06 AM (#137922 - in reply to #137915)
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Also, truck was shaking as I was driving at 65-70. Shifting seems pretty smooth.
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laurie
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2011-09-29 11:08 AM (#137923 - in reply to #137922)
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If you drive on gravel a rock in the tread can make it shake like that. Take it to a tire store and they can help you figure out what is wrong.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2011-09-29 11:18 AM (#137925 - in reply to #137915)
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Take the truck to a mechanic you know and trust. Have him evaluate the truck before you finalize your sale. Do not trust the dealer and his service dept for the mechanical determination of suitability.

In all likely hood, the wheel alignment, the tires or their pressures, the steering linkage, wheel bearings or front brakes need attention, if the truck is consistently pulling to one side. Any of these problems could eventually lead to expensive repairs. Have them checked before you purchase the truck.

On a level, non crowned road, you should be able to take your hands off the wheel at speed, and the vehicle will maintain a straight course, If it doesn't, it needs attention.

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OnTheRoadAgain
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2011-09-29 12:15 PM (#137926 - in reply to #137915)
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Thank you! I will do this tomorrow. I did take it to my mechanic but they were busy and didn't have time to test drive it. The dealership said they fixed it, but if I take my hands off the wheel, it eventually always goes left.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2011-09-29 1:50 PM (#137935 - in reply to #137926)
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Originally written by OnTheRoadAgain on 2011-09-29 12:15 PM

Thank you! I will do this tomorrow. I did take it to my mechanic but they were busy and didn't have time to test drive it. The dealership said they fixed it, but if I take my hands off the wheel, it eventually always goes left.
While you are waiting for your mechanic CONFIRM that both front tires have EQUAL air pressure and make the test again, this would be the cheapest solution...like gard says if this doesn't solve your problem be prepared for a potentially LARGE REPAIR BILL... Also, HOW MUCH SLOP, if any is there in your steering?...While you are sitting in the truck have someone look at your front wheels and tell you when they start to move as you slowly turn the steering wheel...lots of turn on the wheel before tire movement is NOT GOOD...

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OnTheRoadAgain
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2011-09-29 5:17 PM (#137936 - in reply to #137915)
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OnTheRoadAgain
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2011-09-29 5:23 PM (#137937 - in reply to #137915)
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Will check that out. I called the sales guy to let him know what was going on. He was very nice about it and took it for a drive to see what was up. He thinks it is a problem in the tires. They are truck tires with thick treads. My old truck had normal treads. He said there may be a flat spot in them or something. He pointed out the steering wheel is not vibrating and thought that was a good thing. He said it could be a balance issue. He is confident there is nothing wrong (of course!) but said I should take it to the mechanic to confirm.

Thanks so much to everyone for the suggestions!
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shags
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2011-09-30 6:21 AM (#137949 - in reply to #137915)
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From my experience with Chevys...

Pulling to one side was due to misalignment.

Shaking at highway speeds, problems with the front end, ball joints, etc. A few years ago my truck had this and it cost about $1800 to fix. My mechanic mentioned something about the tire weight being wonky as also a common cause, but I wasn't lucky enough to have such an easy fix.

Good luck, I hope you get things going good.

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OnTheRoadAgain
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2011-09-30 11:23 AM (#137956 - in reply to #137915)
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Okay so the mechanic said the problem is in the tires, that they hadn't been rotated and will probably need to be replaced.

But he also found a heavily rusted brake line, leaking power steering pump, leaking front axle seal, and both drive belts need to be replaced.

I know that a used car is going to have issues, but this car seems to have a lot of them.

Any insights?

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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2011-09-30 11:50 AM (#137959 - in reply to #137915)
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all I can say is if you are going to haul with this then it has to be right Do you have usrider? just in case 
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OnTheRoadAgain
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2011-09-30 11:58 AM (#137961 - in reply to #137915)
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You are right; I am worried about towing with a vehicle that may not be right. I can get US Rider (had them before, they are great!), but I guess my question is it a wise idea to pay $12k for something that I am that concerned about?  UGH!!
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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2011-09-30 2:52 PM (#137963 - in reply to #137915)
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2004 truck will have a few issues. The previous owner didn't repair them because he was getting out of it. When you take care of all the little issues, you'll have a great tow vehicle. If you wanted an issue free truck, you would have had to paid the new truck price.

What's the price of a new truck similar to yours?

Between the depreciation and the mark down from new, you should have enough money to fix the problems.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2011-09-30 2:57 PM (#137964 - in reply to #137956)
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Originally written by OnTheRoadAgain on 2011-09-30 11:23 AM

Okay so the mechanic said the problem is in the tires, that they hadn't been rotated and will probably need to be replaced.

But he also found a heavily rusted brake line, leaking power steering pump, leaking front axle seal, and both drive belts need to be replaced.

I know that a used car is going to have issues, but this car seems to have a lot of them.

Any insights?

You may also have issues with the ABS sensors RSN...
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OnTheRoadAgain
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2011-09-30 4:06 PM (#137966 - in reply to #137915)
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Okay after giving it a lot of thought, I returned the truck. It may have been a great tow vehicle with a little work, but I just couldn't get to the point where I felt safe about driving it. Wish the new ones weren't so darned expensive!

Thanks for all the help everyone!

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2011-09-30 5:40 PM (#137968 - in reply to #137966)
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Originally written by OnTheRoadAgain on 2011-09-30 4:06 PM

Okay after giving it a lot of thought, I returned the truck. It may have beenĀ a great tow vehicle with a little work, but I just couldn't get to the point where I felt safe about driving it. Wish the new ones weren't so darned expensive!

Thanks for all the help everyone!

Well, new trucks are currently available at 0% financing for 60 months...and basically no major breakdown issues to worry about for several years...
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OnTheRoadAgain
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2011-09-30 7:39 PM (#137970 - in reply to #137915)
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That's tempting!! I'd love to get a new truck.  I can't believe how much they have gone up in price though.  I got my 1995 Z71 Silverado with all the options for $23k new. They have almost doubled in price. :(  My salary has not. ;)
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laurie
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2011-10-03 11:05 AM (#138016 - in reply to #137966)
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Originally written by OnTheRoadAgain on 2011-09-30 4:06 PM

Okay after giving it a lot of thought, I returned the truck. It may have been a great tow vehicle with a little work, but I just couldn't get to the point where I felt safe about driving it. Wish the new ones weren't so darned expensive!

Thanks for all the help everyone!

I wouldn't buy a  used vehicle with out getting it inspected by a trusted mechanic before you purchase. You can then use that in your negotiations on price or have them do the repairs and won't be surprised after the purchase.
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