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conner
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2010-06-27 11:52 AM (#121597)
Subject: Radial Rire Problems


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I have a 4 Star 3 Horse Slant Gooseneck that weighs #4600. With 3 horses and tack it should max out at at no more than #8300 lbs. I have 4, 16 inch Uniroyal 10 ply radials, 2 years old with less than 10,000 miles on them. One of them blows the tread off and damages a fender. Dealer tells me this is a common problem. Really!! A friend says to go back with bias ply tires and get away from the radials. Any thoughts??
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2010-06-27 1:16 PM (#121599 - in reply to #121597)
Subject: RE: Radial Rire Problems


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Keep the radials and keep them at the maximum pressure, which is 80 psi for a 235-85-16 LT load range E, (10 ply rating). Also, check for a misaligned axle or bad bearing. Has this happend before on the same wheel?

Remember, tires will go flat when in transit, specially if it has been punctured. You'll realize that it is flat when the fender anbd chunks of tread go's flying off..... Not the radial tire's fault.

Quote... A friend says to go back with bias ply tires and get away from the radials. Any thoughts??

I guess your friend still drives an Edsel....!!

I drove 600 miles yesterday in this 96 degree heat with a set of 3 year old Uniroyal Laredo HD/H's running kinda heavy at 70 mph (with 80 psi cold pressure) on my old Silver Star. They looked fine this morning....!

One more thing... Check the build date on your tires. Just because you bought them 2 years ago doesn't mean that they haven't been on the shelf for 4 to 7 years.... They may be too old already.

 

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conner
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2010-06-27 3:13 PM (#121606 - in reply to #121597)
Subject: RE: Radial Rire Problems


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The tires were all at 75 lbs and this tire did not go flat. The tread separated, came loose and beat the fender up. I would like to hear more about this date deal. If I have 85% tread and proper air pressure, I still need to check the date?? How and where do I go about determining the date of a tire?? What is a bad date?? Thanks/
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2010-06-27 4:09 PM (#121609 - in reply to #121597)
Subject: RE: Radial Rire Problems


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Tires on a trailer don't get exercised like that of the tow vehicle. Tires need to be used to keep them from breaking down/dry rotting. Here are some sites that will explain what I'm trying to say.

Some old threads.... http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=13556

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=13360

http://www.tire-information-world.com/tire-age-and-dot-code.html

 

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cowpony01
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2010-06-27 4:42 PM (#121611 - in reply to #121597)
Subject: RE: Radial Rire Problems



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Hhhmmmm, don't go bias ply? Okay we have them on all our trailers, horse and cattle. Are you telling me I'm not with the times then? (not trying to sound like an argument okay, just hear me out) You can't take radials off road very far around here, or the greenstone and granite will own your tires. When you go to camp or head out with cattle around here, you are on some very nasty terrain. We also tow on the highway alot with them. We have had all our bias on for the max 3 yrs. this season, and they are actually still in great shape! I don't see a big difference in ride on them when towing either, it isn't a rougher (if that's a word, sorry) ride like most think. We are due to get them all changed out for new ones here in about 2 weeks.

 

I would say it would have to depend on your load, where you drive, and your preferrence. Also with any tire, get the correct rating and check your tire pressure. JMHO.

 

Sorry had to edit so much for typos, damned keyboard is very sticky today, lol!!!



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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2010-06-27 5:48 PM (#121619 - in reply to #121611)
Subject: RE: Radial Rire Problems


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Originally written by cowpony01 on 2010-06-27 5:42 PM

Hhhmmmm, don't go bias ply? Okay we have them on all our trailers, horse and cattle. Are you telling me I'm not with the times then? (not trying to sound like an argument okay, just hear me out) You can't take radials off road very far around here, or the greenstone and granite will own your tires. When you go to camp or head out with cattle around here, you are on some very nasty terrain. We also tow on the highway alot with them. We have had all our bias on for the max 3 yrs. this season, and they are actually still in great shape! I don't see a big difference in ride on them when towing either, it isn't a rougher (if that's a word, sorry) ride like most think. We are due to get them all changed out for new ones here in about 2 weeks.

 

I would say it would have to depend on your load, where you drive, and your preferrence. Also with any tire, get the correct rating and check your tire pressure. JMHO.

 

Sorry had to edit so much for typos, damned keyboard is very sticky today, lol!!!

Maybe you need to look at something like these... Steel casing Michelin XPS Rib. Wish they came in other sizes and load ratings. http://www.michelinman.com/tire-selector/name/xps-rib-tires

 

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cowpony01
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2010-06-27 7:51 PM (#121626 - in reply to #121597)
Subject: RE: Radial Rire Problems



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Bias have never done me wrong, have used them way back when and I will stay with them on our trailers. Many of the cattle folk use them on their trailers also, so I'm not alone.  Like I said I think it is just preference.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2010-06-27 8:57 PM (#121629 - in reply to #121597)
Subject: RE: Radial Rire Problems


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Just as with many things, not all tires are comparably constructed. A radial has a much lower rolling resistance than a bias ply tire, so it will give better mileage. It has less squirm and more adhesion in corners. Radials can be very long lasting, mileage wise. The construction of the sidewalls can be built heavier in a bias ply tire, perhaps the reason for its longevity when used off road.

There are good radials and bias ply tires. There are some bad ones as well, as documented by many dissastified owners of each construction. Fortunately as the owner of 16" wheels, you have a wide variety from which to choose. Stick with American brands; avoid the Chinese.

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