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carnold
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 7:57 AM (#118192)
Subject: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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Over on BHW I was told to come to this site for help! I read all the past post for the last 360 days and couldn't seem to find an answer, probably because of tire size, most were talking about 16's.Being a female I think makes this worse, but I have been trying to purchase tires for my 2000 Sundowner 3 horse slant (no lq's). I do haul 3 girls most of the time and living in the heat of the country and bad holes in the interstate, I need tires that will hold up and not blow out every time I get on the road. I will be pulling every weekend. Can you please recommend a tire for my trailer, so I can go to the dealer and tell them what I want (instead of them trying to sell me china made tires or Carliles) They have tried desperately to sell me these two things for the last week and they tell me this is all they can get! Thanks for you professional advice and I am sorry for another 'trailer tire' post!
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2010-03-30 8:08 AM (#118193 - in reply to #118192)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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Truck LT tires will do just fine:

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=13383&posts=9

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carnold
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 8:45 AM (#118194 - in reply to #118193)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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Originally written by gard on 2010-03-30 8:08 AM

Truck LT tires will do just fine:

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=13383&posts=9

GREAT! I assume they will know when I walk in to a store and say I need some LT tires, they will know? Sorry, I feel stupid in this area!
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laurie
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 8:51 AM (#118195 - in reply to #118194)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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Originally written by carnold on 2010-03-30 8:45 AM

Originally written by gard on 2010-03-30 8:08 AM

Truck LT tires will do just fine:

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=13383&posts=9

GREAT! I assume they will know when I walk in to a store and say I need some LT tires, they will know? Sorry, I feel stupid in this area!

LT means light truck that is not a brand. I used to sell tires and I am partial to Michelins but there are many good tire companies. I would stay with something well known like Goodyear, BF Goodrich for warranty issues. I was never fond of Firestones but I grew up in the era when they had so many problems wth the 500 series.

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laurie
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 8:55 AM (#118196 - in reply to #118192)
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I might also add that to go somewhere that has knowledgeable sales people and they should show you why one tire would work and another may not. Load rating is important and tread type. If they are telling you something that doesn't make sense follow your instinct.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2010-03-30 9:06 AM (#118197 - in reply to #118192)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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You will want to purchase at least a "D" range tire, ("E" would be better) in an All Weather thread design, NOT a Mud and Snow.

I have used Goodrich tires on my cars, truck and trailers, and have been most satisfied.

A Firestone tire almost killed my family. That and their response to the accident, is the reason I will never again own a Firestone product.

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RTSmith
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2010-03-30 9:11 AM (#118199 - in reply to #118192)
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All of the previous info is good. One suggestion- if you get close to a metro area, look for a commercial truck tire center. They will usually be a Goodyear "Truckwise" or Michelin outlet, and will have experience in commercial products, which is what you need. You'll also find them to be trailer friendly places to drive in as they are set up for trailers and RVs. Your S/D originally came with a ST225/75R15 Load Range "D" (read 8 ply rated), and that is the ideal replacement. But there are others that may be suitable.
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carnold
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 9:25 AM (#118200 - in reply to #118199)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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I would like a 10 ply tire rather than 8, wouldn't that be better? WOW GREAT GREAT information....THANK YOU SO MUCH! I feel more confident going into a place and I have decided to drive this afternoon 30 miles to a larger town so I can get to a truck/trailer dealership! I can bring back the tires to my hometown guy and have him put them on! You guys do not realize how much you have helped me! Thanks and I will continue to read this post until I leave after school! :)
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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2010-03-30 9:31 AM (#118202 - in reply to #118192)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry




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The 10 ply will be harder to find in a 15" tire, but not impossible.
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jim bob
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2010-03-30 9:42 AM (#118203 - in reply to #118192)
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You might also ask your dealer what it would cost to repalce your 15" steel mod rims with 6 hole 16".  Than you can put 10 ply 835-16's on your trailer; and have  trouble free ,"no worry" hauling.  I personally like 16" tires on 3 horse trailers or larger. 

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statzk
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Posted 2010-03-30 10:45 AM (#118205 - in reply to #118192)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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My trailer had the same tires as you are looking for (ST 225/75 15) and in two years I went through two sets of tires. I started looking for an E range tire in 15" and found none. I ended up doing as the previous posted suggested- buying new 16" wheels and 16" Michelin LT tires. Hasn't been quite a year yet, but we trailer at least 15K miles a year and they still look new. My old ST tires would have shown at least 50% wear by now. I think part of the problem was the D rating was pushing the max on this trailer and the tires would heat up. LT tires stay nice and cool. 225/75 16 tires are only 1/2" less clearance at your fenders. My trailer had about 2" room so had plenty. The LT tires were actually cheaper than the ST tires (more popular, so finding a place with a sale wasn't very hard- buy 3 get one free = 25% off!). With the cost of the new rims it was only about $100 more than what I had been paying for ST D rated tires.Just something to think about.
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carnold
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 12:32 PM (#118209 - in reply to #118205)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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Originally written by statzk on 2010-03-30 10:45 AM

My trailer had the same tires as you are looking for (ST 225/75 15) and in two years I went through two sets of tires. I started looking for an E range tire in 15" and found none. I ended up doing as the previous posted suggested- buying new 16" wheels and 16" Michelin LT tires. Hasn't been quite a year yet, but we trailer at least 15K miles a year and they still look new. My old ST tires would have shown at least 50% wear by now. I think part of the problem was the D rating was pushing the max on this trailer and the tires would heat up. LT tires stay nice and cool. 225/75 16 tires are only 1/2" less clearance at your fenders. My trailer had about 2" room so had plenty. The LT tires were actually cheaper than the ST tires (more popular, so finding a place with a sale wasn't very hard- buy 3 get one free = 25% off!). With the cost of the new rims it was only about $100 more than what I had been paying for ST D rated tires.Just something to think about.
This is very much to think about, did these raise your trailer higher? My girls are short legged and I didn't know if this 16 tire would raise it much more than it is now! I really think I am going to ask lots of questions today and make sure that 'my gut' is happy before putting out this money. I did find on one of the old post that on Goodyear tires they have a rebate now on the tires, so if I go that route the money I save I can buy rims for 16 inch tires. PLUS get a better rating E tire! :)
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carnold
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 12:32 PM (#118210 - in reply to #118192)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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OH, did you stay with the 225-75 or did you go to 235?
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 1:32 PM (#118215 - in reply to #118192)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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Take a look at Maxxis or Denman tires, supposedly they are both made in Mexico.  I recently replaced a set of Carlisles (that I ran for almost 30,000 trouble free miles) with Denman.  I would think swapping to 16" rims would be more trouble than its worth considering the size of your trailer.

When we compared the Carlisle and Denman for my trailer, also the ST225/75/15 LR D, the Denman was 36 lbs, the Carlisle only 29 lbs.  Although I had no trouble with the Carlisles, it was pretty obvious that the Denmans were of sturdier construction.

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carnold
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 3:13 PM (#118217 - in reply to #118215)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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Originally written by chadsalt on 2010-03-30 1:32 PM

Take a look at Maxxis or Denman tires, supposedly they are both made in Mexico.  I recently replaced a set of Carlisles (that I ran for almost 30,000 trouble free miles) with Denman.  I would think swapping to 16" rims would be more trouble than its worth considering the size of your trailer.

When we compared the Carlisle and Denman for my trailer, also the ST225/75/15 LR D, the Denman was 36 lbs, the Carlisle only 29 lbs.  Although I had no trouble with the Carlisles, it was pretty obvious that the Denmans were of sturdier construction.

You say you had no trouble out of the Carlile tires, I read a post to stay away from them. Hummmmmm, but I will definitely look into all of these you guys have mentioned! May not purchase them today, but I am headed that way! Thanks for all your help and continued help!
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 3:30 PM (#118220 - in reply to #118217)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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Originally written by carnold on 2010-03-30 3:13 PM

Originally written by chadsalt on 2010-03-30 1:32 PM

Take a look at Maxxis or Denman tires, supposedly they are both made in Mexico.  I recently replaced a set of Carlisles (that I ran for almost 30,000 trouble free miles) with Denman.  I would think swapping to 16" rims would be more trouble than its worth considering the size of your trailer.

When we compared the Carlisle and Denman for my trailer, also the ST225/75/15 LR D, the Denman was 36 lbs, the Carlisle only 29 lbs.  Although I had no trouble with the Carlisles, it was pretty obvious that the Denmans were of sturdier construction.

You say you had no trouble out of the Carlile tires, I read a post to stay away from them. Hummmmmm, but I will definitely look into all of these you guys have mentioned! May not purchase them today, but I am headed that way! Thanks for all your help and continued help!

As for the Carlisle, mine had the tire pressure checked EVERY time the trailer moved, were covered when not in use, and were used nearly every weeekend....working the rubber no doubt helped keep them from dry rotting.  At 5 years old they had less cracks in them than the 3 year old BFGoodrich tires on the pickup.   I know plenty of people running Carlisle (or cheaper tires) trouble free.  So whether or not it is; the "made in China", or the fact there are so many Carlisle tires out there, or people are just 'parroting' what they've read, that is making the problem seem bigger than it is, we'll never know.  If you look hard enough you can find complaints about all tires.  I certainly would not consider Carlisle a premium tire, but I won't run away screaming either.

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headhunter
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 5:04 PM (#118224 - in reply to #118210)
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Originally written by carnold on 2010-03-30 12:32 PM

OH, did you stay with the 225-75 or did you go to 235?
Be careful in changing tire sizes. The 235 and 225 numbers refer to width. While you may have clearance to go with a taller tire, you may not have clearance to go with a wider tire.
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Safet
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Posted 2010-03-30 8:25 PM (#118237 - in reply to #118192)
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How do you tell what width and size of tire your trailer can take? Thank you.
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carnold
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2010-03-30 9:20 PM (#118239 - in reply to #118237)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! This is FRICK'EN CRAZY!


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This is crazy and I am so upset!  I went to 4 dealers today in a town 30 minutes from here and all they offered in tires were "Carliles, and Some off brand I have never heard of"  They said there is NOT a name brand tire that I can get with this size and tread that is American Made (insisting I have to go with China made cheap tires)!  225-750-R15 - 10 ply! I have a friend in Kansas and am thinking about driving to there to get frick'en tires!  Tell me about Hercules brand! 

I am probably driving you guys crazy, but I have to vent or I am going to explode, I need to find some tires.....and within the next two weeks!

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2010-03-31 7:31 AM (#118247 - in reply to #118192)
Subject: RE: trailer tires 225-75-15; read past post and still need help! Sorry


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More tire "news".

http://www.rvtradedigest.com/interactive/2007/06/26/cheap-chinese-tires-cause-big-blowouts/

Just stick with a load range "D" (8ply) tire for your trailer. A load range "E" (10 ply) is almost non existant in a 225-75R15 size. If you want a good "ST" (special trailer) tire, you can't go wrong with a Goodyear Marathon radial... Alot of them on the road.

http://www.goodyear.com/rv/products/marathon.html

ST22575R15 lrD with a load rating of 2540# at 65 psi. Remember, these Marathon radials are speed rated at 65. mph. http://www.goodyear.com/rv/pdf/rv_inflation.pdf

http://www.goodyear.com/rv/pdf/marathon_gen_info_032806.pdf

This goes along with what Chad was saying earlier about correct pressures..... http://www.goodyear.com/rv/tirecare/loadinflationtables.html

 

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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2010-03-31 8:54 AM (#118254 - in reply to #118192)
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I have used both the Carlisle and Goodyear Marathon tires with success. Either tire with proper inflation will work well for you. There has been bad press on both brands, but both are still out there selling tires every day, and there are many people that have not ever had any issues. Goes along with squeaky wheel theory...if they have problems they are going to tell 100, but if they don't you are lucky if they tell 10.

 

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carnold
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Posted 2010-03-31 9:51 AM (#118259 - in reply to #118254)
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You guys are the greatest really and thank you so much for your patience! This blond girl who travels by herself is a deep thinker, not one who will go and buy the cheapest thing, I think of my safety and others! With all this information, I have printed it out in hopes that I can find a dealer with the tires that I need to purchase! I am so confused, not from the information, but the recommendation for each brand tire. I honestly do not follow 65 m/p/h, usually 70-73 depending on how tired I am! I need to look at the tire that will withstand the heat better, size, ply, fit for my trailer (etc) and it would be nice to have a better price on some, but that is the name of the game.I realize you hear 'bad' things when it happens, taking in consideration about don't buy a carlile or marathon etc, I realize I can purchase them and nothing ever happen and then again, I am like Lucy Ball, where everything happens! I learn to pray and deal with it! You guys are really great! Thanks for not 'yelling' at me over 'another tire post'! :)
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Posted 2010-03-31 12:03 PM (#118274 - in reply to #118237)
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Originally written by Safet on 2010-03-30 8:25 PM

How do you tell what width and size of tire your trailer can take? Thank you.
There isn't a fit guide where you can look up your trailer and see what tires will fit (there is for cars/trucks). You will just have to eyeball it. What you need to know is the tire width is in millimeters, so the difference between a 225 and a 235 is 10mm. Doesn't sound like much, but there isn't much clearance in a trailer wheel fender. As long as we are talking about tire size, the next number in the size, in your case 75, refers to the aspect ratio. A 225/75/R15 tire is 75% as tall as it is wide. Going up a size in width also means going up a bit in tire height, something to keep in mind in clearance as well. You probably already know the R stands for radial and the 15 is your wheel diameter.
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laurie
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2010-03-31 12:55 PM (#118277 - in reply to #118237)
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Originally written by Safet on 2010-03-30 8:25 PM

How do you tell what width and size of tire your trailer can take? Thank you.
It is easiest and best to just stay with the original size.
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laurie
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Posted 2010-03-31 1:03 PM (#118278 - in reply to #118239)
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Originally written by carnold on 2010-03-30 9:20 PM

This is crazy and I am so upset!  I went to 4 dealers today in a town 30 minutes from here and all they offered in tires were "Carliles, and Some off brand I have never heard of"  They said there is NOT a name brand tire that I can get with this size and tread that is American Made (insisting I have to go with China made cheap tires)!  225-750-R15 - 10 ply! I have a friend in Kansas and am thinking about driving to there to get frick'en tires!  Tell me about Hercules brand! 

I am probably driving you guys crazy, but I have to vent or I am going to explode, I need to find some tires.....and within the next two weeks!

A 225/75R-15 is one of the most common size tires made so you shouldn't have a problem getting them in a name brand. Now being it's a common size for a half ton pick up they may not have them in the load range you need but in just a 6ply or load C. Not sure why 4 dealers would all have the same brand? The laod range D carries 2500 pds each on the goodyr I just looked up. I am guessing that is plenty and you will have a tough time getting load range E in that size tire. Is your size a 75 or 750? not sure if that was a typo. A 750 will be harder to come accross
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