Posted 2009-04-19 7:57 AM (#103591) Subject: flooring protection
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I know that this subject has been on the forum quite a bit, but without the search feature that the forum used to have I am having trouble finding it. So one more time what is the product that you use to protect an aluminum floor in a trailer? Also what is involved in the preparation? Thank you
Posted 2009-04-19 8:03 AM (#103592 - in reply to #103591) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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In my trailer I have WERM flooring and I know alot of trailer dealerships and trailer manufactures offer it as well. It not only completely protects your floor but it is also maintenance free. No more pulling out mats. www.wermflooring.com
Posted 2009-04-19 11:16 AM (#103605 - in reply to #103591) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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You can clean your floor with acid or if you are going to put anything over it you may have to grind off any corossion. WERM flooring is not painted on, it is a permanent rubber floor 1/2" thick. You may want to check the website.
Posted 2009-04-19 5:20 PM (#103619 - in reply to #103591) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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We power washed our floor then put down the muriatic acid, let it soak a while then did a good scrubbing and rinsing, let it dry then put several coats of the roll on bed liner. We bought our bedliner at walmart.
Posted 2009-04-20 4:12 PM (#103688 - in reply to #103649) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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Originally written by Rose66 on 2009-04-20 10:18 AM
How long has your roll on bed liner stuff been down? Is it holding up well to horse's sharp hooves and/or shoes?
The Vinyl Polymer coating is very durable, but will not stand up to the long term cutting and abrasion of horse shoes. For the best durability, it should be covered with mats.
Because the coating seals the flooring, constant removal of the mats for cleaning is unnecessary. At first we pulled the mats about every month for cleaning. Now we only pull them at the end of the season.
We will be into our fourth year this summer, with one application, and the product still looks like the day I installed it. Our other trailer and utility vehicle start their third year, and still are in excellent shape.
Posted 2009-04-20 10:44 PM (#103695 - in reply to #103688) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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So Gard you have the roll-on bedliner stuff on the floor of your trailers or do you have the WERM flooring? Do you think the bedliner stuff would work on a wooden trailer floor?
Posted 2009-04-21 10:22 AM (#103720 - in reply to #103695) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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Originally written by Rose66 on 2009-04-20 10:44 PM
So Gard you have the roll-on bedliner stuff on the floor of your trailers or do you have the WERM flooring? Do you think the bedliner stuff would work on a wooden trailer floor?
Our trailers have the roll on bed liner, not the werm. I have never seen this product used on a wooden floor, and would be hesitant to try it without first contacting the manufacturer.
Most wooden floors, if they are maintained, will last a few decades. I don't see any real advantage to coating them. Any coating that becomes damaged will hold moisture into the wood and cause localized rotting. Wood that is allowed to dry out, and flushed of urine and manure, is long lasting.
Posted 2009-04-23 12:49 PM (#103823 - in reply to #103591) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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Gard, did you have any trouble fitting your mats back in after applying the roll on? Mine are such a PITA to get the "puzzle fit" of them correct & laying flat on the bare aluminum floor - so wondering what happens w/the coating down. I am looking into doing this so trying to find answers to all my questions.
Posted 2009-04-23 4:11 PM (#103843 - in reply to #103591) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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In both of our 3H trailers, the mats consist of three pieces as wide as the trailer. The front has the slant wall taper cut, the center one is rectangular and the rear one has cut outs for the moveable tack wall pin and the saddle rack mounting plate. With each one being unique, it's not difficult to recreate their placements. If it were, I would mark each one with a chalk mark before removal.
I have little strength in one arm, and found that by using a hay hook, slid through a hole drilled into the mats' corners, I can move them about. The "T" shaped handle is much easier to grip and pull against, than the handles of pliers or vice grips.
We no longer remove the mats during the year. We rake or sweep the mats and flush them off with a hose after every trip. If there is a particularly bad mess, it's quite easy to lift the butt edges of the mats and pull them towards the head side, exposing the messy part of the flooring. Once again, this will be flushed with a hose, and when dry, the mats ends are just rolled back into place.
Since I've installed the coatings, the original aluminum floors have been completely sealed, have no indications of corrosion, and within the horse stall areas, are now maintenance free. Occasionally I flush the bottom of the trailers, and even though they are uncoated, they too are corrosion free. One trailer is now 8 years old, the other is 9.
Posted 2009-04-23 6:13 PM (#103852 - in reply to #103591) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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Thanks Gard - I guess I wasn't real clear in what I was asking .. I mean, as in the tight fit of the mats. There is no spare room when I put mine in - they fit tightly against each side & each other. So I was wondering if the coating made things any "bulkier" as far as the mats fitting back into place correctly, or if just the same as before.
Posted 2009-04-28 9:55 AM (#104092 - in reply to #103591) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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Gard- you seem to be kind of an expert on the flooring--so my question is--do you think it will be enough to use the muriatic acid to stop existing corrosion and then just put the mats back down. I really don't want to coat the floor with the permanent stuff that you guys are using.I also have the same concern about the mat fit..mine are SUPER tight fit now. Not a millimeter to spare.I have always followed the guidelines of trailer manufacturer and removed mats and washed out floor every 3 months, but still I am seeing some corrosion spots.
Posted 2009-04-28 10:25 AM (#104093 - in reply to #104092) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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Originally written by rlehman on 2009-04-28 9:55 AM
Gard- do you think it will be enough to use the muriatic acid to stop existing corrosion and then just put the mats back down. I really don't want to coat the floor with the permanent stuff that you guys are using. I have always followed the guidelines of trailer manufacturer and removed mats and washed out floor every 3 months, but still I am seeing some corrosion spots.
Yes, the acid will stop any active corrosion. Without a floor coating, I would roll the butt side of the mats onto the head side and flush the floor whenever it becomes saturated with urine. Let the flooring and mats dry completely before they are flopped back down. The underneath areas of the mats on the head side, usually don't get as contaminated. This eliminates the rigours of trying to remove and replace the mats each time.
Three months can be a long time between flushings, if there is a pool of urine trapped underneath the mats. You might want to check your flooring drain holes to see that they are not plugged.
The acid application is the initial and most difficult part of the flooring coating installation. Once that has been accomplished, applying the coating is no more difficult than painting a floor with a roller and paint brush. There is little odor, the materials are about $80 and will last many years with little maintenance.
Posted 2009-04-28 10:15 PM (#104148 - in reply to #103591) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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Your other option is to have LINE-X commercially coat your floor, because they guarantee their stuff for the life of your ownership...I have a 2000 K2500 with their coated pickup bed at it has NO RUST...am in discussions with them to do the trailer floor, since there is no WERM dealers anywhere close to me...
Posted 2009-04-30 10:44 PM (#104250 - in reply to #104166) Subject: RE: flooring protection
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Originally written by gard on 2009-04-29 9:30 AM
Before a coating of any kind is installed, the present corrosion issue should be first addressed. Corrosion will not go away by hiding it.
Linex, Rhino and most hot sprayed two part coatings will do an excellent job. Of course the cost will be about eight times the cost of a DIY project.
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There are certain things I skip when it comes to DIY... Yipes Stripes have preped all of my trucks since 2000 and I have had just one case of a respray...which was free...