ok I'll bite....How the h--l did officer 394 know where a rig was going or where it had been PRIOR to the stop?

Is this part of the new warrantless wiretapping?  Since when did horsepeople become terrorists?

POOP on IOWA

I too am curious about the source of Rick's information

for PaulChristenson

The brand inspector who refused to come in S Dakota admitted to us that only 2 horses had been reported stolen in the previous two years

Besides, what would a thief do with a stolen horse?  The killers aren't buying and the recreational horse market is in the basement.  Thieves, while maybe not the smartest people around, usually only steal stuff they can quickly convert into cash.

So you are ok with someone hijacking your user name to post something you don't agree with?  How about you tell us what you do know about this anonymous poster - how did he/she come to have the information shared?

I wonder how officers of the law of the highway could construe that you would be hauling for profit if you were taking a mare to be bred? We've kept most of the colts that we have ever bred our mare for,and if we did sell one,h---,4-5 years down the road after it's born,do they even remember that particular incident? Doubtful.

Are they possibly trying to catch haulers for profit that have bought regular rigs to get around having to go through all the proper channels?

"I don't know where people come up with this stuff" Quote

H----- YAH! DITTO! You mean like government agents that don't have enough to do to justify their jobs so they make up stuff? THOSE kinds of people?????

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According to the rules of this website...can I ask who posted under Rick's account?

Or do we have to complain first???....

Hey Y'all, I really appreciate all of your input and enthusiasm on this issue.  It's going to take all us getting together to do something about these regulations.  I am sending out emails to all the organizations I can think of.  If you would like to be included please email me at my address and I will stick you on my list.  Also, you will then have all the email addresses I have and can send your own emails.  I believe the more emails we can get in the better.  I am also working on a website so it will be easier to access information, but I don't know how soon I will have that up and running.  Please, let me know if I have left out an organization or if you have any ideas.

Here is the email address   keeponhaulin@yahoo.com

We pulled into one up in Missouri one time right after we got our LQ trailer.We thought maybe we should,we didn't know.THe guys in the weigh station looked at us,and called out "Something the matter?" We shook our heads,and one came out,and said,"What are you doing?" We said,"We thought we were supposed to stop here." He said,"Hell,lady,youall don't belong in here,this is for truckers and over the road haulers! Now go on,and have a nice trip,there's folks waiting in line behind you!"

We felt like a couple of dummies.I've NEVER seen a horse trailer sitting at a weigh station since.I see them fly by them in Missouri Arkansas (when you can find one) ect.and never stop.We're not stopping at the next one,either.

Gotta love public boards dontcha? My thinking is, and I'm thinking Rick's friend may protest, is Officer Friendly was having a bad day and took it out on some horse people towing a nice trailer. I mean really three hours on the side of the highway? That's an unreasonable amount of detainment without being arrested for a 'real' crime. And sheesh, profit??? Especially at the amature level.  Many shows you are lucky if you get a purdy ribbon.

 I took my old horse to a team penning a couple of years ago. Drew a team that came in second and after paying the mandatory practice rounds and round robin rounds I still had to pay $8. LOL OK that had something to do with them decided to pay out to three places rather than the normal two. Anyway, let's see that's a negative profit of $8 plus fuel costs and not even a pretty ribbon to take home. Yup, definitely in it for the money.  Gotta say, it was a fun time and worth every penny.

I think some clarification needs to be put in the books to prevent further harrassment of horse owners on the highways. In the mean time I'll be glad I'm only towing a 16' stock trailer and well under combined weight of truck and trailer of 26000 lbs

I know when I started asking questions when I moved to OH, I was told my two State Highway Patrol officers that how you answered their questions was one of the most important things. Although I show reiners, you can bet when I get asked by a trooper where I'm headed the answer is going to be "to a trail ride on my uncle's farm"!

I've been trying to get a straight answer out of the state of OH for 3 years from the SHP, the PUCO and DOT and the only consistent response I have received has been from a high ranking officer in the SHP, "It really depends on which officer pulls you over. Some feel a need to make an example and others are just trying to do their job, not necessarily make your day any tougher." Secondly, he said any determination by the officer is based on your answers to the standard questions regarding your destination and what you are going to do when you get there. It is important that you give the correct answer here!

Typically they want to know if you own the truck & trailer and all the horses in it. Then they ask where you are headed.

Finally, they told me that sponsorship identification or farm/business names or logos also ID your vehicle as a potential commercial vehicle. As a result, the only logo on my new trailer says "ELITE"!

The bottom line is that individuals hauling horse trailers seem to fall into a grey area that makes us subject to the attitude of the officer pulling us over.

That's what I gleaned after wading through the regs on the website of the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Administration.The website that keeponhaulin provided on the first page of the thread.

It does say the weight stipulations of the vehicle,the trailers being towed,ect.But it does say "For Commerce."

ANd it depends on whether you get stopped by a Barney Fife or an Andy,looks to me like,and all in how they want to make the call.

Main Entry: com·merce
Function: noun
1 : the exchange or buying and selling of goods, commodities, property, or services esp. on a large scale and involving transportation from place to place

Hey Rick

Why does your "friend" have to hide behind your skirts?  Sounds to me like he is in fact officer 394......and qualifies as a complete bag of s--t.  I repeat POOP ON IOWA

And again HOW THE HELL DOES A COP KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING PRIOR TO THE STOP     Rick how about asking your "friend" this

Broken Bit said a mouthfull.....HOWDY COMRAD

I'd like to know under what authority, does a police officer have to ask where are you going?  Is there a limit to a citizen traveling on a public road?

Dearest Rick,

 It would not benefit any of us who pull trailers if the story I told was a lie or if I omitted any details.  That is exactly what happened.  Hook up your trailer and go for a drive down I-29 through Hamilton county and see what happens to you.