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Longrider
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-08-14 10:19 AM (#89695 - in reply to #89362)
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Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-08-14 10:30 AM (#89698 - in reply to #89362)
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Longrider...what kind of trailer does Obama have for his traveling road show with the "Change You Can Believe In"? Other than the compass that spins round and round...where it stops...no one knows...
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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2008-08-14 11:28 AM (#89700 - in reply to #89698)
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Originally written by Tresvolte on 2008-08-14 11:30 AM

Longrider...what kind of trailer does Obama have for his traveling road show with the "Change You Can Believe In"? Other than the compass that spins round and round...where it stops...no one knows...

Let me guess.... OH! I KNOW...It's the ilusive... "BLUE MOON TRAILER"!!!   Often talked about, but no body seems to have ever seen one!!

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Posted 2008-08-15 12:54 AM (#89748 - in reply to #89695)
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Longrider, thanks for having the guts to do what I didn't, post an unpopular reply. I will ad though, you forgot to mention the old horse poop in the stalls because with McCant, it's just the same sh!t, different day. I also think he'd like a hydraulic lift gate on the entrance for feeble old nags to get in and out of. No more walking or rolling up that scary slippery ramp. P.S. Long live the NRA.
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HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-08-15 7:16 AM (#89749 - in reply to #89362)
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Well now that we have some different points of view I have rethought this whole deal. Sidney McCains trailer might have to be from Canada or Mexico if the labor unions keep driving industry outside of the US. I'm sure that Hussien Obama finds it shameful that American bussinesses are getting the contracts overseas, why wouldn't we give those contracts to foriegn nations, you know "free trade" slick Willy signed that one into law. But back to trailers, maybe Sidney McCains tires would also have to be made overseas due to all the government regulations against industry today, with the libs threat of taxing industry based on a carbon footprint, that would surley be a boost to the economy. What was I thinking, the gas in Hussien Obama's truck would come from his buddy down in Venezuela, he would probley be the first of the rouge dictators for Hussien Obama to visit. Speaking of gas Hussien Obamas plan of taxing the profits of the gas companys, that should lower the price of gas, the libs have a great record on gas prices, the national average when they took control of congress $2.62, national average today????? One more little thing, I don't think we would see any "I support the troops" stickers on Hussien Obama's trailer, he couldn't even take the time to visit with them overseas once he was told he couldn't bring any cameras. Sidney McCains trailer could be converted into a rolling emergency room, because if Hussein Obama gets his nationalized health care you will need McCains trailer to get a band-aid, the government has such a good record with healthcare, just look at Medicaid-Medicare($70 Billion a year in fraud).

Before you go after me, look in your garage or barn, I can proudly say that there is not one foriegn nameplate in my garage, driveway or barn, and I firmly believe that if that were the case in all of America, we would be better off.

As a side note, I don't think either one of these clowns will make a good president, I will be voting for the less of two evils, niether one can "change" anything becuse they are political party hacks, but one has promised to raise my taxes and one hasn't, I think DC has enough money now.

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Longrider
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-08-15 9:36 AM (#89752 - in reply to #89362)
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Okay, HW, let's set the record straight on NAFTA. From the Congressional Record - an agreement with Canada, Mexico, and the US was signed by Geo. HW Bush in December, 1992 for a free trade agreement. It finally went the House after much debate in Nov. 1993 and was passed by a vote of 234 for- 200 against (132 Republican votes FOR - 102 Democratic votes FOR).  AGAINST the agreement were 43 Republican votes and 156 Democratic votes with 1 Independent voting NO.  The bill then went to the Senate where it was passed by a vote of 61-38, (34 Republicans FOR, 27 Democrats FOR - 10 Republicans AGAINST and 28 Democrats AGAINST. The bill went to Clinton's desk and was signed into law. Large American corporations were the leading proponents for the agreement.  So how can you state that "Slick Willie" was the one who started it?  MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, hardee-har-har.
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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-08-15 10:40 AM (#89756 - in reply to #89362)
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Slick Willie signed it....he could have vetoed it.
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Texas Butch
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2008-08-15 10:55 AM (#89759 - in reply to #89362)
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Doesn't any of you Obama fans wonder what is term "economic justice" means.  Let's just put it this way, you can bet the number of folks on welfare, medicaid, food stamps, and free health care will sky rocket.  Wonder who is going to pay for that???
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Longrider
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-08-15 1:23 PM (#89769 - in reply to #89362)
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Tresvolte - sounds real easy except when you have a partisan house and senate (which there was as evidenced by the Republican votes), his veto would have been overridden and the bill would become law anyway. But, Clinton wasn't opposed to the NAFTA agreement for the record as he had been sold a bill of goods by the huge financial interests who sponsored it.  Like Perot said, you'll hear a loud sucking sound coming from the south.
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Longrider
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Posted 2008-08-15 1:25 PM (#89770 - in reply to #89759)
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Originally written by Texas Butch on 2008-08-15 10:55 AM

Doesn't any of you Obama fans wonder what is term "economic justice" means.  Let's just put it this way, you can bet the number of folks on welfare, medicaid, food stamps, and free health care will sky rocket.  Wonder who is going to pay for that???

The guy flipping hamburgers down at McDonald's?

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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-08-15 1:51 PM (#89774 - in reply to #89769)
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Originally written by Longrider on 2008-08-15 1:23 PM

Tresvolte - sounds real easy except when you have a partisan house and senate (which there was as evidenced by the Republican votes), his veto would have been overridden and the bill would become law anyway. But, Clinton wasn't opposed to the NAFTA agreement for the record as he had been sold a bill of goods by the huge financial interests who sponsored it.  Like Perot said, you'll hear a loud sucking sound coming from the south.

Typical finger pointing. Don't forget all the Dems that also voted for it. Besides...it takes two thirds in both the House and the Senate to over-ride a veto. The support wasn't there to over-ride the veto. NAFTA was a Rep & Dem fubar.

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Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-08-15 2:40 PM (#89779 - in reply to #89774)
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Originally written by Tresvolte on 2008-08-15 1:51 PM

Originally written by Longrider on 2008-08-15 1:23 PM

Tresvolte - sounds real easy except when you have a partisan house and senate (which there was as evidenced by the Republican votes), his veto would have been overridden and the bill would become law anyway. But, Clinton wasn't opposed to the NAFTA agreement for the record as he had been sold a bill of goods by the huge financial interests who sponsored it.  Like Perot said, you'll hear a loud sucking sound coming from the south.

Typical finger pointing. Don't forget all the Dems that also voted for it. Besides...it takes two thirds in both the House and the Senate to over-ride a veto. The support wasn't there to over-ride the veto. NAFTA was a Rep & Dem fubar.

           I agree that it was indeed something that shouldn't have been enacted.
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rose
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2008-08-15 10:30 PM (#89799 - in reply to #89362)
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Personally, I believe that it should be illegal to buy, sell or provide medical insurance of any kind.  Doctors and hospitals should have to take a chicken or a cow or a pig as payment.
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Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-08-16 5:07 AM (#89803 - in reply to #89799)
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Originally written by rose on 2008-08-15 10:30 PM

Personally, I believe that it should be illegal to buy, sell or provide medical insurance of any kind.  Doctors and hospitals should have to take a chicken or a cow or a pig as payment.

 

 

That would eliminate your choices in Doctors/Hospitals, I can see someone going to school for 8+ years for the promise of lots of chickens.

Sorry, but I just had to add that most new Doctors I see don't want much to do with a pig.



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rose
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2008-08-16 3:07 PM (#89824 - in reply to #89362)
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unless they are using the pig heart valves to replace human ones....  Pre 1965 ish, medical ins was not the norm.....most people had to pay as they went which kept prices somewhat within in the realm of reasonableness.....  There were many times a country doctor took produce or livestock or whatever in lieu of cash as payment.  Again, this is just my op.

Most vets go to school for 8 years too.  Doubt if money is their motivation either. 

On the other hand, the Parelli performance and tack sale is designed specifically to get money by selling stuff



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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2008-08-16 4:30 PM (#89830 - in reply to #89362)
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unless they are using the pig heart valves to replace human ones....  Pre 1965 ish, medical ins was not the norm.....most people had to pay as they went which kept prices somewhat within in the realm of reasonableness.....  There were many times a country doctor took produce or livestock or whatever in lieu of cash as payment.  Again, this is just my op.

YEA! How many of those old doctors are still in business?!!

Most vets go to school for 8 years too.  Doubt if money is their motivation either. 

You ain't had to call the VET lately, have you ? $$$$$$$!!

On the other hand, the Parelli performance and tack sale is designed specifically to get money by selling stuff

And he and his wife would starve to death waiting for me to buy his "B.S. SNAKE OIL"!!

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Now back the Potential Presidential horse trailers..... We all seem to get all side tracked when someone designs something we don't particularly care for....... I double either one of the candidates could tack up a horse, let alone hook up a trailer and get a horse loaded!!

We're in a country of 300,000,000 people and this is all we got to pick from, Sidney McCain and Hussein Obama.......

 An old man (his name is BOB) at Jack's Country Store the other morning was cussing and raising hell about Russia invading Georgia!! He said, "if you don't watch out, they will have slipped over into South Carolina and Tennessee, before you know it. We should have taken them &%^#%^**&^%##&* $.O.B.'s over when we had the chance at the end WWII"  I thought to myself, "Bob has finally jumped track. All that aluminum from those Budweiser cans have settled in his brain and the Alzheimer's is begining to kick in and he's flashing back to the Cold War and to Nineteen Hundred and Fourty Five"!!...... He probably can't even spell my name, but, I almost believe I would vote for him if he were running for president....... He's probably got alot more common sense that either of the other two candidates, put together!!

BOB for president......His Motto... "Let's Take a BIG DRANK"!!!

I kinda like the HWBar/McCain trailer for what it's worth. Don't think I would want a trailer built from combustable material, Obama type trailer.

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Posted 2008-08-19 7:44 AM (#89964 - in reply to #89362)
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Something to think about: "How To Save the Government $5 Million!"

A president's pension currently is $191,300 per year, lasting until he is 80 years old.

Assuming the next president lives to age 80:

  1. Sen. McCain would receive ZERO pension, as he would reach 80 at the end of two terms as president.
  2. Sen. Obama would be retired for 26 years after two terms, so would receive $4,973,800 in pension.

Therefore, it would certainly make economic sense to elect McCain in November.

Now, how's that for non-partisan thinking???

 You could buy quite a few horse trailers with $5,000,000.00!
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Longrider
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-08-19 5:18 PM (#89991 - in reply to #89964)
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Hmmm, let's see. Bush is 62 = 18 years @ $191,300 = $3.45 Million plus the $250 Million PER DAY that his personal vendetta against Iraq has cost the taxpayer.
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Posted 2008-08-19 6:44 PM (#89996 - in reply to #89362)
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Touche Longrider.... Touche!!
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HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-08-19 7:20 PM (#89998 - in reply to #89991)
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Originally written by Longrider on 2008-08-19 5:18 PM

Hmmm, let's see. Bush is 62 = 18 years @ $191,300 = $3.45 Million plus the $250 Million PER DAY that his personal vendetta against Iraq has cost the taxpayer.

 

 

Do you mean the personal vendetta that was approved 77 to 23 in the US Senate, that would be 29 of the dems supporting the measure? Is that the one you are talking about?

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Longrider
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Posted 2008-08-20 1:43 AM (#90006 - in reply to #89362)
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No, HW. I'm talking about the personal vendetta that Dubya had against Saddam because Saddam made Daddy look bad during his term of office for not finishing the job when the chance had presented itself. So Dubya went to kick butt in Iraq on Daddy's behalf and lying to the American public in order to make a case for the invasion of a sovereing nation that had invaded another middle east country. No evidence was ever found where Saddam had supported terrorism against the USA.
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HWBar
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Posted 2008-08-20 6:03 AM (#90008 - in reply to #90006)
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Originally written by Longrider on 2008-08-20 1:43 AM

No, HW. I'm talking about the personal vendetta that Dubya had against Saddam because Saddam made Daddy look bad during his term of office for not finishing the job when the chance had presented itself. So Dubya went to kick butt in Iraq on Daddy's behalf and lying to the American public in order to make a case for the invasion of a sovereing nation that had invaded another middle east country. No evidence was ever found where Saddam had supported terrorism against the USA.

 

 

I still think you are talking about the personal vendetta that was approved by the Senate 77-23, and the reason for the vendetta was said to be a "Slam Dunk" by then Democratic CIA Director George Tenet, it's also the vendetta that was due to 16 violations of UN resolutions in the 12 years since the cease fire agreement after the Gulf War. You know the UN don't ya, they have a real conservative record don't they? But, back to trailers maybe Sidney McCain could have two trailers the first one that I decribed above, and a second one with padded walls and cieling for the "hate Bush" crowd so they won't hurt themselves bouncing of the walls trying to figure out another Bush conspiracy.

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Posted 2008-08-20 6:38 AM (#90013 - in reply to #89362)
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As far as the trailers go I would take McCains.  It might have horse poop but just about everything can be cleaned out and polished.  As far as the two running for office they remind me of the two headed snake - made news but short lived.  Alot of people are in need of assistance right now with our high unemployment. NAFTA is here to stay - it has its bad and good points.  There was a time like country doctors they did take food, animals that they need to live from.  There was a time when nurses make house calls and turned the tide on ingorance since they provided medicine and guidance to families and so did doctors.  Our society and our values changed.  I guess we get what we paid for - Greedy, money hungry, people that make rules/laws that they feel others should obey.  I think it is time to stop paying and turn the tide.  We did it in throughout the years.  The "WE" or "I" generation will (more than likely) just complain about it and still go on its way.  My great-grandparents and parents were rebels - they felt change was needed - so they changed it.  As far as the troops - I just want God to watch over them and try to keep them as safe as possible.  It nice when you can get up on your soapbox when your safe in America.  My grandmother was something else:  She would say something like:  "His (the presidents) mother should slap the poop out of him for starting something like that."  I'm glad my grandmother did not know his mother - that would definitely would be a phone call you would not want to hear.         

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Posted 2008-08-20 7:33 AM (#90016 - in reply to #89362)
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I whole-heartedly believe that we are in a mess in the US, taxes are to high, government corruption is through the roof(both Partys), nothing gets done unless deals are made to take care of him/her, I don't see how that either party can fix it because they are so wrapped up in the political machine/process that they can't make decisions based on practicallity or usefullness, the politicians of today make their decisions based on who it benifits/politically. Way to much special interest involved in politics today. The last couple of nights Fox News at 8:00 have had a special running about who these two candidates are. It has been very interesting of course the "hate Bush" crowd would never see it with open eyes, neither would the "hate Clinton" crowd. The problem I see is that most folks are not engaged in the process one bit. As long as they have time to get little Johnny/Janey to whatever thay have to do today, and they still have time to meet at the fast food restaurant to eat, with a little time to catch up on homework/yard work/ ect....... then they are fine.

I have people tell me they are going to vote for Obama because he is going to "Change" things, I ask what's he going to change? They don't know............ I ask the same question about McCain,..... the answer is,......... well he will finish this war. Again no clue.........Most people don't have any idea how much they paid in taxes last year. I think we should have to sign a check every week to the government, do you ever wonder why it is so painlessly taken out of your check? Do you wonder why most small business folks are financially conservative? They do have to write a check to the government. I think it's time for "change" also, time to change the whole damn process and vote someone into office that doesn't seek the power of the office, but instead wants the job so as to fix the problems.

How does Ross Perot look to you today? That's what this country needs is a leader, someone who can pull this mess of a country up by it's bootstraps, send all the lobbiest/special interest groups home. Reduce the tax burden on everyone, and stop paying folks not to work, start paying them for living the dream. Encourage folks to prosper instead of helping them maintain a life of poverty. You want to fix the imigration problem then stop the welfare programs, it won't take long before those folks stomachs tell them they need to go get a damn job, and a mass exodus off illegals will leave. Enough of my ranting, I got to got to work, so I can pay taxes, so this sorry bunch of politicians in Washington will have some money to blow this afternoon.

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Posted 2008-08-20 7:40 AM (#90019 - in reply to #89362)
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Never thought I would say this, but well said HWBar.

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