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calamityj
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2008-06-23 9:11 PM (#86218)
Subject: Hello, from beautiful Buffalo River...


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We are camped at Buffalo River Resort right now... got rained out today, but rode a gorgeous trail past some waterfalls and dramatic rock formations yesterday. Lamed our little mare when she stepped in a hole and sored up her shoulder, so have to change out tommorow morning for our big quarter horses. I would like to hear opinions on the climbing, trail worthy, durability on these gaited horses. On some semi-flat trails, the gaited horses are so cool! but when it comes to rigorous trails like these down here, I feel more comfortable on my quarters. I've ridden them all over these hills and not had any problem...
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tnmulerider
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Posted 2008-06-23 10:05 PM (#86227 - in reply to #86218)
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Have you ever tried slowing a gait horse down to the speed a quarter horse would cover the rough spots?  I ride a mule and look for the rough spots and I have friends that ride gaited horses along with me and they never sore their horses.  Just my opinion!
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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2008-06-23 11:02 PM (#86232 - in reply to #86218)
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My friends and I all ride foxtrotters and have had no problems with the country we ride. But maybe you ride something a little rougher than I.

My friend ( at 250lbs) on a 11 year old Foxtrotter gelding at 10,000 feet. Horse is doing fine on a rocky trail.

My daughters working through a quakie forest. The two buckskins are both Foxtrotters. The sorrel is an arab/Saddlebred cross.

More friends riding in the San Rafael Swell of Central Utah on their foxtrotters

More foxtrotters traversing some ledges in the San rafael

I just don't see a problem with a gaited horse on rough terrain. If they are legged up.

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bbsmfg3
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2008-06-24 7:22 AM (#86241 - in reply to #86218)
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It is not the breed that makes a good trail horse, but rather the individual horse itself. There are good and bad trail horses in any breed. We ride our gaited horses any place the QH type can go, we just do it faster.

All of the horses here are gaited:





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calamityj
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2008-06-24 9:57 AM (#86253 - in reply to #86218)
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oops. I did not mean to strike any nerves. I love all our horses, regardless of breed... I need to clarify how we sored our mare, she stepped in a hole we did not see and wrenched her shoulder slightly. It could have happened to ANY horse. My question was more about strength in their rear-ends when it comes to steep climbs... we do take it pretty slow except when we are on a long flat stretch. She is well legged up for almost any trail, but my new gelding has a way to go yet, so I am taking it easier on him until he is stronger. Thanks for the comments and illustrations. Happy Trails.
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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2008-06-24 12:03 PM (#86260 - in reply to #86218)
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No offense taking. I was just trying to respond to your question

"I would like to hear opinions on the climbing, trail worthy, durability on these gaited horses"

My Pictures were ment to show that I believe gaited horses are just as durable as any breed. And probably better suited for trail riding. I use my horses for some very rough trails and other than an occassional tender foot from going barefoot, have had no problems with my horses. In fact most of my friends who had Quarter and Appendix horses have switched to Foxtrotters.

Now a heavy muscled quarter horse will power up a steep climb better than my gaited horses. Maybe I have to give my gaiteed horse an extra blow during the climb. Those heavy fast twitch muscles in a quarter horse come with a price. That same horse generates more heat and has a harder time dispersing that heat than my lighter slow twitch muscled horses. Which generally equates to less endurance but more explosive speed/power in a quarter horse.

Any breed of horse will be a compromise of several features. I wouldn't buy a gaited horse to cut cattle with or run barrels. Yes I can herd cattle and run barrels with my foxtrotters, but I won't be competitive if I were to compete. Same is true for trail riding. You absolutely can ride a quarter horse on the trail. But if you want to cover ground comfortably it's probably not the best choice.  Thats why most Forest Service back country ranger ride Foxtrotters.

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Dwight
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2008-06-24 1:40 PM (#86269 - in reply to #86218)
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Dwight
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2008-06-24 1:57 PM (#86270 - in reply to #86218)
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We ride TWHs and SSHs.  We have ridden all over the hills and mountains of KY/TN.  We have climbed hills that would flip an ATV.  Rocks, mud, ledges...we've done them all.  On gaited horses!

Like a human athlete, a horse will develop the muscles it needs to perform the tasks it is regularly asked to do.  So if you regularly ride hilly terrain, the horses hips will develop the muscle to take you where you want to go.

How about these hips? (the horses', not mine)  The mare on the right is well over 16hh

IMG_1273.jpg picture by teapot1965

A steep climb in the eastern KY mountains.  Notice the horse working his hindquarters?

RedHillMemDay2007014.jpg picture by teapot1965

Check out the hill we had to climb to get up to this overhang!

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Down in a rock canyon in So. Ill.

OneHorseGapMemWeekend2008081.jpg picture by teapot1965

And here is our friend Jan on her very stocky TWH, "OJ".  By the way, OJ worked cattle for his previous owner!!

OneHorseGapMemWeekend2008002.jpg picture by teapot1965

 

 

RIDE ON!



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rose
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2008-06-24 10:08 PM (#86295 - in reply to #86218)
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and he just turned 15.....he still likes to chase and pen...I have used him to run down/catch other horses too.
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Dunoir
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2008-06-25 7:16 AM (#86310 - in reply to #86218)
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I had trotting horses for years (QH, Arab crosses, TB's) and now am on my 2nd Gaited horse.  I agree that it depends on the horse, what kind of condition they are in, how you ride them etc.

My previous horses were from Fla and always wanted to trot up/down hills while I prefer to walk. I worked with them on this, but at times they would still try to go faster. My newest SSH is from Miss and they rode in Tenn, Alabama, etc and he's very careful climbing up and down.  I love that they taught him at a young age to be careful and go slow up & down hills.

I do find that the gaited horses cool out much quicker since they aren't so heavily muscled.  One QH I had was extremely muscular and it took more time to cool him out and I had to put 2 fans in his stall in the summer time.

Note I'm not a speed rider (I walk 90% of the time), but the humidty is so high along with the heat down here that it is hard on all horses.

 

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2008-06-25 9:39 AM (#86323 - in reply to #86218)
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Calamity,how about posting some pictures of your ride at the Buffalo? It is such beautiful country and I'd love to see pictures from this area showing folks what nice rides we have here in our area also.

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pooperscooper
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2008-06-25 9:52 AM (#86326 - in reply to #86218)
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Yep, I'd like to see some pics of that area too. Tell us more about the place you are staying at. How are the trails, are there several to ride from there? How is the camping and horse pens, are they in the shade? Is that place close to Steele Creek? Thanks and hope you are enjoying your stay and that your horse is okay. 
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ghbb41
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Posted 2008-06-25 12:17 PM (#86333 - in reply to #86218)
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I have been riding my Tenn. walker and a Rocky Mt. Pleasure horse, both gaited, for over 8 years, on some very rough terrain, have never felt that my horse was not sure footed and trail worthy. I seldom ride less than 6 hours.  My horses are in great shape,  have never been sore footed, lame, or any other health issues. I also have two saddlebred -standard bred mares.  They are two very tough ladies. When we have someone who wants to try a gaited horse on the trail, they ride the "rocky", and I take one of the ladies....
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calamityj
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2008-06-25 8:48 PM (#86374 - in reply to #86218)
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Hey guys; LOVE all the pics!!! I am sitting here in the horse trailer (with wireless connection!!!) resting my weary bones from a long ride today. We took our trotter mare home and switched out horses so she would not be stressed. The place is Buffalo River Resort on Hwy 74 on the way to Steel creek and Ponca.. He has cabins, about 12 hookups, and primitive camping... he also has an awesome indoor arena and indoor stalls available. We took our horses in the other day when we were rained out. The trails are great and connect to all the other trails going down to Kyles Landing,Steel Creek, and Erbie... I will take some more pics and post as soon as I can if I can find my usb cable to download while we are here... I love the Buffalo River area and have seen stuff this time that is so cool it is dizzying.

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ponytammy
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2008-06-25 10:21 PM (#86377 - in reply to #86218)
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Is it called Buffalo River Ranch Resort? I found this place on the net and was wondering if this is where you are: http://www.buffaloriverranchresort.com/

How far are the trails to the main Buffalo River Trail System?

Looks like a really nice place and a whole lot better than having to use a picket line. Sure wish I was there!



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puglady
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-06-26 10:08 AM (#86406 - in reply to #86377)
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Ah, I wish we were back there - we spent last Friday, Sat and left Sunday at Buffalo River Ranch Resort.  Jim is wonderful!

We rode down to the river and crossed the river half a dozen times or more and then stopped at a gravel bar,   changed clothes, tood the saddles off the horses and we all swan in the river, - the horses and us.  I didn't want to leave! 

It was our first time there, the couple we went with had been there before.  We really enjoyed it and plan on going back. 

Oh, and we all were riding quarters and apps.

 

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Issie
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2008-06-28 8:42 PM (#86582 - in reply to #86218)
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rose
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2008-07-03 7:35 PM (#86843 - in reply to #86218)
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Do those lovely mule ears distract the flies?
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calamityj
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2008-07-14 7:56 AM (#87425 - in reply to #86218)
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Hi all; just wanted to appologize for no pics. Lost a very nice dig camera and an expensive Boa boot there. I have lots of pics though, if I can dig them up on my desktop computer. later.
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Issie
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2008-07-20 2:52 PM (#87764 - in reply to #86218)
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Hi Rose just to keep the record straight the Get a Mule remark was from MR Issie!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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flyinghfarm
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2008-09-17 9:20 PM (#91690 - in reply to #86218)
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About the Buffalo River Ranch Resort, can you get in there, park and hook up, and turn around and get out with a large rig?  Do they have hookups? Thanks!

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ridingarocky
Reg. Aug 2008
Posted 2008-09-17 10:15 PM (#91694 - in reply to #86218)
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I have a little 14.2 h rocky mare, and I am no shrimplet... Altho we primarily ride the flat coast, we occaisionally travel to Bandera,Tx which has some very rocky, steep (for Texas) hills.. I ride my mare barefoot all up and down those hills and she has never slipped or stumbled and is sensible enough to go at a pace that is best for her. One particular trail has a very steep descent that is nearly 100% flat rock.. Despite her bulk (and mine!), she can squat right back on her haunches and pussyfoot her way down.. The only time I've ever had a horse slip or take a misstep was when I was riding a rocky gelding SHOD..My mare is very solid.. she is built much like an traditional Morgan..  Rockies are known for their toughness and surefootedness.. One of their early stallions was named Maples Squirrel because he "could climb the mountain trails like a squirrel".

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calamityj
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2008-09-18 7:29 PM (#91749 - in reply to #91690)
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They have hookups ( electrh20) and I saw two of the most bodacious trailers (50' long with double slideouts)...so there is plenty of room to back in, then there are outside pens behind, or inside pens in the huge arena/barn...Trails are right out of camp.
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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2008-09-18 11:02 PM (#91751 - in reply to #91694)
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I loved riding in Bandera, when the mosquitoes wern't out in force.   We used to pack everything on the horses and go back to the camp.  I can't remember the name of it but the boy scouts used to go back there. 

 

The rangers were very strict with the leash law.  I watched them take 4 dogs one day.    Have they made the campground any bigger?  There were only about a dozen primitive sites with pens last time I was there.



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ridingarocky
Reg. Aug 2008
Posted 2008-09-19 7:47 AM (#91752 - in reply to #91751)
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Terri,

I, too, love Bandera.. It's been pretty much my saving grace, keeping me from leaving the hubby and moving off to the west.. LOL!!! I wish either it was closer, or that I was closer to it...I don't get up there as often as I like.. I'm kinda hesitant to go alone in case something happens..I can't get cell phone service there, and you never know, my mare may spook at a butterfly or something and break my neck for me!!! I don't know how big it used to be, but there are several small corrals under the trees right in front where the check-in office is, then you have the choice of another primitive site on the left side of the caliche road a little ways back.  If you keep going, you pass over a cattle gap and end up at the arena which has  several small pipe corrals (open air stalls, more like) a covered barn (rentable) a little bunk house (don't know if it's rentable..I've always camped in my car, or later a tent) and plenty of primitive camping spaces..There is also another place nearby with a barn with stall and a rentable lodge and/or cabin.. I usually only go there to Bandera to camp during Ranch Heritage weekend which is @ the 2nd weekend in October... Hundreds of people come and camp...they have a rodeo, a training clinic, a hay ride for the non-riders, and a dance... They are not doing it this fall.. (great dissapointment for me.. I very much looked forward to it every year and specifically took time off from work (I work weekends) to go to this function.. I called to see why it was cancelled and was told that they are moving it to the spring.. They'd better do it EARLY in the spring, because it gets too hot up there by late March/early April.. I went in April a year or 2 ago and there was no streams running already that year.. My poor gelding was pretty tired by the time we got back to the arena where the trough was...  

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