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happyrider929
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2008-04-15 9:46 AM (#81966)
Subject: Best Brake Controller?


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I've read a lot about the Prodigy brake controller on here, and now that I am pulling a heavier trailer, I was wondering if I should upgrade to a better brake controller? We didn't have all these options "back in the day." I am pulling a late model 4 Star 3H weekender LQ with a 2001 F-250 7.3 diesel, and currently have a Tekonsha Voyager. Your thoughts?
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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2008-04-15 11:46 AM (#81986 - in reply to #81966)
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There are several threads here concerning that.Chadsalt has posted several times about the brake controller that he uses.We are about to purchase a proportional brake controller by Teshonka,the P3.You might do a search to read about them.
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dixie
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2008-04-15 11:57 AM (#81990 - in reply to #81966)
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The prodigy is a good box it is pretty much an updated version of your voyager and the P3 is an updated version of the Prodigy. They are all proportional boxes and your Voyager will do just as good a job as the Prodigy or the P3. I have two trucks one has the Voyager and one has the Prodigy and the Voyager works just as good and since you already have the Voyager it would save you money to stay with the Voyager.
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-04-15 12:19 PM (#81991 - in reply to #81966)
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From a safety standpoint, the Voyager is a proportional controller so youre good there. If you are not having problems, like jerking, or other complaints then you have no reason to upgrade........unless you just want to. If that is the case, I would skip over the Prodigy and go for the P3.

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=720...

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Sharon
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2008-04-16 1:32 PM (#82088 - in reply to #81966)
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Dang, and I just went and upgraded from the Voyager to Prodigy.  Wish I'd seen this before!  Oh well... paid $79 for the Prodigy so I guess I saved a few $$.
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-04-16 3:02 PM (#82103 - in reply to #82088)
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Originally written by Sharon on 2008-04-16 2:32 PM

Dang, and I just went and upgraded from the Voyager to Prodigy.  Wish I'd seen this before!  Oh well... paid $79 for the Prodigy so I guess I saved a few $$.

I would have pointed that out in your other thread, but it appeared you had already ordered the Prodigy.

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Sharon
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2008-04-16 3:07 PM (#82104 - in reply to #81966)
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LOL... thanks anyway!!
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SouthwestWheel
Reg. Apr 2008
Posted 2008-04-17 9:14 AM (#82166 - in reply to #81966)
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I saw this thread and I thought I would give a plug to some of the other controls besides Tekonsha.  We sell Tekonsha controls and have for many years, but sometimes people tend to think they are the control manufacturer.  Two controls that have been tested with high regards is the MaxBrake hydraulic/electric control and the Valley Odyssey II control.  If the MaxBrake is out of your budget you should really take a look at the Odyssey II.  Here are a few reasons why. 

360 mounting, polarity protection, illuminate tail lights when manual override is compressed, four preset memory settings + four boost settings, compatible with electric/hydraulic, small enough to fit in your cubby hole, stick on or screw on bracket, and will handle electronic down shift. These are few features this control can do that the Prodigy series can not.

Just thought I would give some of the other brands equal time.

Darrick Sweeden Southwest Wheel Company Proud Sponsor of HorseTrailerWorld.com

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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-04-17 2:59 PM (#82189 - in reply to #82166)
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Originally written by SouthwestWheel on 2008-04-17 9:14 AM

I saw this thread and I thought I would give a plug to some of the other controls besides Tekonsha.  We sell Tekonsha controls and have for many years, but sometimes people tend to think they are the control manufacturer.  Two controls that have been tested with high regards is the MaxBrake hydraulic/electric control and the Valley Odyssey II control.  If the MaxBrake is out of your budget you should really take a look at the Odyssey II.  Here are a few reasons why. 

360 mounting, polarity protection, illuminate tail lights when manual override is compressed, four preset memory settings + four boost settings, compatible with electric/hydraulic, small enough to fit in your cubby hole, stick on or screw on bracket, and will handle electronic down shift. These are few features this control can do that the Prodigy series can not.

Just thought I would give some of the other brands equal time.

Darrick Sweeden Southwest Wheel Company Proud Sponsor of HorseTrailerWorld.com



That Odyssey II sure looks interesting........of course if I buy another brake controller I know my wife is going to look at me funny.

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TPenning
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-04-17 10:19 PM (#82203 - in reply to #81966)
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I haven't got any advice for you on which one to buy, because I'm still stuck trying to figure out what to do with mine, too.  I posted a while back about my brake controller problems - no trailer brakes when using the brake pedal, but do have trailer brakes when using the manual slide - and we're still beating our heads against the truck door trying to figure it out.  I'd gladly buy a new controller if I knew that was the fix.  I think my husband is ready to rip a few panels off the truck so he can trace the wiring better. If anyone out there went through this with a 99 GMC Sierra and found the fix, let me know!
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Towfoo
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-04-18 4:07 AM (#82207 - in reply to #82203)
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Originally written by TPenning on 2008-04-17 10:19 PM

I haven't got any advice for you on which one to buy, because I'm still stuck trying to figure out what to do with mine, too.  I posted a while back about my brake controller problems - no trailer brakes when using the brake pedal, but do have trailer brakes when using the manual slide - and we're still beating our heads against the truck door trying to figure it out.


Did you ever figure out if you were getting juice to the controller from the truck's brake light circuit?
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Spooler
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2008-04-18 9:34 PM (#82247 - in reply to #81966)
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BrakeSmart or a Maxbrake. Two of the best braking system you can buy because they both take pressure readings off of the mastercylinders.  Truck and trailer stop as one vehicle. Pricey, Yes, but work wonderfully.
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TPenning
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-04-18 9:47 PM (#82251 - in reply to #81966)
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"Did you ever figure out if you were getting juice to the controller from the truck's brake light circuit?"

Yes, my husband came in shaking his head just 2 days ago, saying that he'd put the tester on and there was power everywhere it was supposed to be.  We bought the truck used and there was a wiring harness there from the last controller, and this is what the current one is wired into.  I think his next planned step is removing a panel to verify where those wires are going. MY next planned step is to connect to the trailer one more time, and go through all the basic steps for levelling the sensor and setting the power level.  I feel like Clark Griswold trying to figure out why the christmas light won't work.

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-04-18 11:03 PM (#82258 - in reply to #81966)
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Here is a video for you to watch...

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/prodigy-brake-controller-ford-f250-etrailercom/1050596884

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2008-04-18 11:34 PM (#82259 - in reply to #82258)
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I think I've been told this before.But,I think my husband is a little leery and not very confident to try this,either.So,here goes.

We have a brake controller,so,we are wanting to upgrade to one of the P3's or other proportional  boxes.We have a Chevy Silverado 1T,so,with the proper corresponding wiring harness,do we just: unhook the old one,mount the new one,and plug it in? I think he'safraid we might hook it up wrong and fry the whole thing,or go down the road with 3H LQ+2 horses+ tons of other stuff and all of a sudden,NO BRAKES because we did something that goofed it up.

SOrry,but you know,unfortunately,not everyone is real mechanical on here.I'm a little better at it than he is.If you say so,I'll at least take your word for it,and give it a try.Worth it not to take it to a customized truck accessory place and pay bookoos for THEM to plug it up you know? Then laugh about it in the breakroom afterwards.

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Towfoo
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-04-19 4:14 AM (#82261 - in reply to #82251)
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I feel like Clark Griswold trying to figure out why the christmas light won't work.



LOL, I love that movie!

If you are sure you're getting juice from the brake lights to the controller plug, then either the wires aren't hooked up right to the plug, or there is something wrong with the controller. Triple check the wiring to the harness. I'd be surprised if the controller was bad.
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Towfoo
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-04-19 4:27 AM (#82262 - in reply to #82259)
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We have a brake controller,so,we are wanting to upgrade to one of the P3's or other proportional  boxes.We have a Chevy Silverado 1T,so,with the proper corresponding wiring harness,do we just: unhook the old one,mount the new one,and plug it in?


If you buy a prewired harness for the controller then yes, it's plug-n-play. Then the hardest part is just deciding where you want to mount it. Etrailer sells the Prodigy harness for about $15.
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-04-19 7:19 AM (#82265 - in reply to #82251)
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Originally written by TPenning on 2008-04-18 10:47 PM

"Did you ever figure out if you were getting juice to the controller from the truck's brake light circuit?"

Yes, my husband came in shaking his head just 2 days ago, saying that he'd put the tester on and there was power everywhere it was supposed to be.  We bought the truck used and there was a wiring harness there from the last controller, and this is what the current one is wired into.  I think his next planned step is removing a panel to verify where those wires are going. MY next planned step is to connect to the trailer one more time, and go through all the basic steps for levelling the sensor and setting the power level.  I feel like Clark Griswold trying to figure out why the christmas light won't work.

 

You have a Voyager, correct?  Brakes dont work with application of pedal, correct?  No reason to trace the wires, if the brakes work with the manual slide and he confirmed there is power from the trucks brake pedal then the wiring must be right.  Looks to me like there are 2 likely problems,

A.  Controller is bad.

B.  Controller needs leveled?

 

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2008-04-19 9:06 AM (#82268 - in reply to #82262)
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Originally written by Towfoo on 2008-04-19 4:27 AM

QUOTE] pla Then the hardest part is just deciding where you want to mount it. Etrailer sells the Prodigy harness for about $15.

I was thinking we'd mount it where the old one is now.?

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hav2ride
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2008-04-19 11:57 AM (#82276 - in reply to #82203)
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When you have the trailer plugged in to your truck and you compress the brake pedal, do the tail lights on the truck come on? If not, check your fuse box for a bad brake fuse. You should also have your plugs, both on the tralier and the receiver on the truck, tested. It could also be a wire connected wrong from the brake controller if this has been an issue from the very beginning. If not, and all else fails, it may be a bad controller.
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hav2ride
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2008-04-19 12:00 PM (#82277 - in reply to #82166)
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Are the Max and the Odessy compatible with Carlisle braking systems and are they digital, easy to swap over to electric, and easy to set up?
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-04-19 12:14 PM (#82278 - in reply to #82276)
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Originally written by hav2ride on 2008-04-19 12:57 PM

When you have the trailer plugged in to your truck and you compress the brake pedal, do the tail lights on the truck come on? If not, check your fuse box for a bad brake fuse. You should also have your plugs, both on the tralier and the receiver on the truck, tested. It could also be a wire connected wrong from the brake controller if this has been an issue from the very beginning. If not, and all else fails, it may be a bad controller.

In her earlier thread, http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=8686 (which it is actually an Envoy not the Voyager, although the two are close enough) the controller is doing everything its supposed to (green light, works with manual lever) except working with the brake pedal.  There is also confirmed power from the brake pedal according to this thread.  No reason to check trailer plug, fuse or other wiring.  I would put BIG money on the controller needing to be leveled per the instructions, Ive seen this before.

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TPenning
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-04-19 1:13 PM (#82282 - in reply to #81966)
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I think we've all but exhausted the examination of the wiring.  Hubby says he fiddled with the controller a bit and now he can hear the magnets move in there, which is something that never happened before.  So, with that small new development, as soon as Tuesday rolls around and the giant crates in the truck are unloaded and out of the way of the plug, we'll be going through the entire levelling procedure yet again.  If it's a no go after that, I'm chucking it in the garbage and starting over with a new controller. 
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Jbsny
Reg. Apr 2004
Posted 2008-04-19 5:35 PM (#82284 - in reply to #81966)
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You might take the voyager back to the place you bought it or call Tekonsha, a friend of mine's prodigy failed and they replaced it for free because it was still under the warranty.

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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-04-19 6:10 PM (#82286 - in reply to #81966)
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The Envoy has a 5 year warranty. 
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