Posted 2007-11-11 4:41 PM (#70899 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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We generally use hardwood sawdust..the same bedding we use in our stalls here in southern Ohio. Usually line just the business end of the horses, enough to soak up the urine. On a long trip usually put in about 2 inches over the entire floor. Have used the dried pine shavings, but these tend to be really dusty with the wind blowing around in the trailer...there have been several posts re this subject and many opinions. Using some bedding seems to keep the urine soaked up and the horses would seem to be able to keep their footing better..plus the urine does not splash up on their legs etc. Thats my 2 cents worth.
Posted 2007-11-11 5:03 PM (#70901 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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YesI use shavings. (Not sawdust) I keep it about 4" deep.
I pick the apples out every trip or two.
About 3-4 times a year, I sweep everything out and start fresh.
I tried once throwing some hay on the floor once when I didn't have any shavings. But it got slimy as the horses pee'd on it. Made the floor too slippery.
Posted 2007-11-11 5:19 PM (#70902 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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Thanks for the replies...just wondered what everyone else did. I have used shavings off and on and now I have a mare that pees in the trailer every time we go somewhere, so wanted to start using them again regularly. I have heard some say they are not good to use because the horses inhale the dust and it gets in their eyes and such, but I can get pine shavings that have very little dust from my feed store.
Posted 2007-11-11 7:10 PM (#70906 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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have used both shavings and straw...personally I don't have a preference. Good fluffy straw works good in a trailer as well as shavings. But I do like to have something on the floors.....
Posted 2007-11-12 10:08 AM (#70949 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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I use shavings and pick out the trailer after every trip. I know some that strip the shavings out after every trip. Since I don't, am I shortening the life of my floorboards? I just don' see the need to dump out perfectly good shavings. In fact, I had just put new shavings in before my last trip, and am getting ready to store my trailer for the winter. Anyone see any problem with storing my trailer over the winter with the shavings in it?
Posted 2007-11-12 10:19 AM (#70950 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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Shavings will trap and hold moisture against whatever they are placed. It would be better saving them separately in a feed bag and allowing the floor to completely dry out after you have washed it down for the last time of the year. Another thing many people do is to put blocks under the mats to allow air flow to the flooring. This will reduce corrosion.
Posted 2007-11-12 12:03 PM (#70962 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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I used to use shavings on the floor until I rode in the back of my trailer one day, I really wanted to know how much air was moving back there so I could get a feel for how many vents/windows to have open. With windows dropped and roof vents open shavings were flying around everywhere, I mean it wasn't choking me or anything like that, but they were getting in my eyes so I haven't used shavings since. Everyone should get in the back of thier trailers and go for a ride at highway speeds.
Posted 2007-11-12 12:35 PM (#70966 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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Getting stuff in your eyes is different than a horses-they can bury their heads in straw or hay and are fine. We can't do that. So its not a fair compairison.
I do like to clean out the old straw/shavings when they get dirty and wet. I just add some new bedding after since I use the trailer year around.
Posted 2007-11-12 2:04 PM (#70981 - in reply to #70966) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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they can bury their heads in straw or hay and are fine
I don't know about your horses, but if mine tried to burry their head in the hay they would get it stuck in the hay bag. I don't use shavings and I don't give hay unless its a LONG ride.
Posted 2007-11-12 2:08 PM (#70984 - in reply to #70950) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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I remove shavings and the mats (what a job!!) at the end of the season,wash the floor and let it dry and wash off the mats.I know some people use their trailer all year,tho,so I would take out the wet shavings,rinse the floor underneath the mats,block it with something to dry and then add new shavings before I use it again.But I'm a fanatic about that kind of thing so that might be a bit much for some folks.
Posted 2007-11-12 3:29 PM (#70990 - in reply to #70981) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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The point wasn't about the hay bag but the horse eye in general. While we might get shavings and dust in our eyes, horses generally don't.They are different so its hard to compare our reaction to something and assume its the same for the horse.
Posted 2007-11-12 4:03 PM (#70994 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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I always use some shavings in my trailer, but I'm not a proponent of stacking a ton of shavings in there. I just like to have a little in there to soak up the urine. Of course, I always pick out the piles and wet shavings after I unload the horses. Once a year I like to get the mats out and hose off the floor, but it rarely happens more than that.
Posted 2007-11-13 8:13 AM (#71038 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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I agee with Terri - don't feed hay while in transit and don't use shavings because of the dust/debree flying around.
I have a question, though regarding Martyg's comment about hardwood shavings -- I am under the impression that there are some hardwoods that are toxic to horses and can cause laminitis if used for bedding, specifically black walnut and possibly cherry wood. Anyone else know of anything about this?
... and a question to Paul Christensen; I do use woodypet in my stalls in combination with softwood shavings, but in a trailer, how long would it take for them to become effective at urine absorbtion and would they not create a somewhat slippery surface until they break down? Also, once they break down, do they not become just as susceptible to blowing around in the wind as regular fine shavings?
Posted 2007-11-13 8:35 AM (#71040 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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I do a lot of woodworking in my shop and collect the wood shavings that we use for bedding. In conversations with our vet, he agreed with your knowledge of Black Walnut causing problems. He disagreed with the Cherry and in fact we have been using this wood species for many years with no difficulties. My cabinet making involves mostly Cherry and it is the greatest bulk of my sawdust.
Whenever I work with Walnut, I have to dispose of it in an area not accessable by our horses, and cannot mix it with any sawdust that will be used as bedding.
We purchase wood shavings in 20 yard amounts and prefer oak for bedding. We get it dry and delivered, very nice to work with and not as dusty as some other types. Popular, Pine, Spruce and Ash also work well.
Posted 2007-11-13 9:04 AM (#71047 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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Yellow pine is my choice (because that's about all I can find) about 4"-8" deep mostly on the pooping end. Spray down with a little water before the trip to hold down the dust that is present. The shavings are a good insulator from the heat reflecting up from the asphalt in the summer months. Touch an aluminum floor after you've been parked on black asphalt, in the sunshine, on a 90+ degree day, at the rest area for five minutes, it gets hot in a hurry, shavings helps hold back some of that heat.
Posted 2007-11-13 1:22 PM (#71081 - in reply to #70898) Subject: RE: Shavings in trailers
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Wood Pellets are the best! $5 bucks for a bag and you would be surprised how well it absorbs and lasts! I don't use this in stalls but for the trailer - Absolutely!!