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Posted 2006-11-02 11:24 AM (#50993 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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Yes, you can get them mircrochipped....but as in small animals, the chips *can* migrate. And unless they've recently changed them, it will only register if you have THAT company's machine to identify....but if it's migrated to who knows where??? forget it.
Posted 2006-11-03 3:48 PM (#51072 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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BRAND THEM. I used microchips in the past.A couple years later went to check them as vet had a scanner.Next to impossable to find.Took several minutes a horse(lots of minutes) and had to get right on IT.Don't know how many vets,killer techs or whomevers would go over and over a fraction of a inch at time the mane line hunting for a chip.Now if a scanner would go off just near one of them it would be differant.Needed a brand with a ARROW saying CHIP IS HERE> X. Wife and I were like cheez what a waste.Vet agreed.Unless they have improved the scanning abilitys I wouldn't bother.
Posted 2006-11-04 12:43 PM (#51105 - in reply to #51072) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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I agree! They DO migrate, just like on a cat or dog, so who knows where it might end up. And, unless the vet, etc has the brand of scanner that is compatible w/your brand of chip, it's not gonna find it anyway. I would go w/a brand or even the freeze brand like the Arabs use (& Mustangs). Years ago, there was a company out of Pullman, WA called Kyro Kinetics (I think that's the correct spelling) that had a registry for those. I had my gelding done, since we were having horses stolen right & left in our area in MI. The system they use can be run thru an NCIC (National Crime Information Center) just like your license plate & if the info is up to date, then will show who is the owner. BUT I don't know if they are still in business & doing these or not - but I at least the states should have them. Does your state have a brand inspector? It can be documented that way too.
Posted 2006-11-05 8:31 PM (#51148 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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I believe race horses are tatooed in their bottom lip for identification purposes and for insurance claims. Perhaps someone in the racing industry could provide more info.
Posted 2006-11-07 5:17 PM (#51232 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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thanks for all the info it helps alot. The only problem is i show my horses in the paint shows and I don't want the brand totally showing.I'll just check a little bit more about it.
Posted 2006-11-08 11:17 AM (#51261 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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microchipping IS a good idea. yes they do migrate occasionally but not very often. I've worked in mixed animal practices for over 20 yrs and every time I've scanned a horse the chip is still there. once in a while they do seem to migrate out of dogs and cats.. it's a good idea tohave the periodically checked by your vet or whoever.. the company will pay to have them rechipped too, if it should come out.
there are different companies that do chips and altho they can't give you each other's bar code # the scanner will tell you the animal is chipped and by which company. AVID and Home again are probably the most popular in the US but if you plan to take your horse out of the country there are universal chips that would be better.
probably microchipping and tatoo or freeze brand would be the best way to ID a horse.
Posted 2006-11-08 2:16 PM (#51267 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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I don't think any of mine moved.It was just to get a scanner to go off it had to be dead on the chip.How many are going to hunt all over until it goes off.We kinda knew where they were but unless RIGHT ON it you never would have found it.Now if you just had to go up and down the neck and BINGO it sounds off I'd feel better about using them again.Needed to be more sensitive.
Posted 2006-11-10 3:56 PM (#51347 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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We micochipped our horses last year. I guess that I'll have the vet scan them again this year to be sure that they haven't moved. Maybe, then put a small freeze brand there.
If you want to brand your horse, hot or freeze brand, check with the stat ag dept to see if there id a brand registry. If you gat your brand registered in your state, any auction, slaughter house, etc. is required to check with you before they sell, consign etc. Without having a registered brand, you're just whistling "Dixie".
Posted 2006-11-10 7:45 PM (#51359 - in reply to #51347) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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That's a good idea, but the problem is there is no national registery so you would have to register the brand in every state. And in some states like Tx, there is no state registery, you would have to register it in every county. I don't know of any auction barn that will do that.
Posted 2006-11-24 10:47 PM (#51875 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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One of our neighbors just had seven of her horses stolen, it is terrible. But how many stolen horses usually make it back home. And from what I understand there is a kill plant less than an hour from me and when chipped or branded horses come in they are just moved to the front of the line to speed up the process....and we go to the sale almost weekly and I have never seen them check for anything. One night the local sherriff was tipped off and they were chasing a horse traded who had a stolen horse through the pens....other than that they check them in coggins thema nd sale them...
My neighbors laugh but we keep locks on all our gates but all they have to do is cut the wire.....
Posted 2007-02-14 12:45 AM (#55527 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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I agree, being raised near the killer plant near Dallas they check about as well as Government workers would if you know what I mean.
Branding does work(deter) and you can show with a brand, they don't frown upon them. In fact it can help a judge remember your horse, since a good number of paint horses don't have much paint. (Don't get me wrong I won tons on my mostly red horse in the early 90's but he had Sabino roaning on his belly and it set us apart.)
Tattoo his lip and put it on his papers...but they really don't check those either. Fact is, if they want to steal your horse they will point blank.
Posted 2007-02-14 9:33 AM (#55543 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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I did want to add at this time that after doing the research, I am very much in favor of microchipping. There is almost no chance of a microchip "migrating" (they are inserted into muscle and scar tissue forms around them. I know most of us have scar tissue, and we know it doesn't move.). I think the biggest reason for getting your horse microchipped isn't theft, though...it's disaster. Look at how many horses ended up lost after Hurricane Katrina. The ones that were found were all scanned for chips, but very few had them, and many ended up at the auction for fates unknown. If they had been chipped it's possible an owner could have been located. It may not happen to you, but if it does, wouldn't you be glad to have a better chance of a reunion?
Posted 2007-02-14 1:38 PM (#55555 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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Katrina? If your house was demolished they wouldn't have any way of finding you to tell you they located your horse. We have several Katrina evacuees living here and none of their animals were returned and they had tags on them. I guess the tags had a phone number and address that no longer existed.
Posted 2007-02-14 1:45 PM (#55559 - in reply to #55555) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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Originally written by huntseat on 2007-02-14 1:38 PM
Katrina? If your house was demolished they wouldn't have any way of finding you to tell you they located your horse. We have several Katrina evacuees living here and none of their animals were returned and they had tags on them. I guess the tags had a phone number and address that no longer existed.
Invalid point.
If the owners keep their contact information current at the kennel club, then they could have been found. But I suppose it might be the first thing on their minds during such an event. I'd like to see the mircochip numbers go on the reg papers. I'd also like to see horses not shown before the age of four. :-)
Posted 2007-02-14 2:23 PM (#55563 - in reply to #55543) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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Personally, I feel that a responsible owner wouldn't have left the animals there to fend for themselves. I have evacuated for several hurricanes while we were in Tx and EVERYONE, right down to the rooster went with me. I've found that most fairgrounds are only to happy to help out.
Posted 2007-02-14 11:10 PM (#55581 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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Ahh yes Terri, but you have the brains to plan ahead and you care about your animals. I bet you wouldn't have stood on the side of the road and yelled for the Government to come get you and asked where your next meal was. The whole state was so corrupt they ruined themselves. Now they can't spend the money they've been given because of all the anti-corruption safeguards.
I think it's funny to look at how well Texas handled their evacuation by comparison.
Posted 2007-02-15 6:23 AM (#55592 - in reply to #55581) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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getting a little off the subject..do you really think that Texas handled there evacuation well? My neighbor's sister evacuated from Houston and it took her 24 hours to make the 4 hour drive. My in laws tried to leave their house in Katy and after sitting in traffic for 3 hours and never getting more than 30 miles from their house, turned around and went back home. Remember the bus full of nursing home patients that caught on fire and killed several? I think the only reason that Texas looked better in terms of preparedness was that Rita missed the highly populated areas. Anyway, as far as animals are concerned, I think many people just don't have a plan for what they would do in case of natural disaster. I think the important lesson to be learned is to HAVE A PLAN. Know exactly what you would have to do to get your animals (whatever they may be) away from the area, where you would keep them, etc. Would you have enough food and supplies on hand to take along and use for at least 2 weeks? Do you have a trailer and tow vehicle in good working order, and enough room to evacuate all your horses? (I have a friend with three horses and a two horse trailer. Which one do you leave behind?) Many things that we wouldn't normally think about but should..just in case.
Posted 2007-02-15 9:03 AM (#55603 - in reply to #55592) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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Houston wasn't the only city evacuated, but it was the only one I heard of with problems. Corpus, Rockport, and Port A all evacuated without a problem. If people would have evacuated by the schedule that was set out it wouldn't have been a problem but no one listened and everyone tried to leave at once.
Maybe it's just me, but I think you should have enough room to move everyone at once. I have a 4 horse trailer and 4 horses. That has always been the rule in my family and that has stopped me from buying another horse/cow, and getting in trouble, several times. As far as supplies for at least two weeks, I'm sure I could find a feed store somewhere in Tx that would have my brand of feed if I ran out.
What would your friend (or anyone) do if there was a fire or some other disaster and she had to leave? Take out the divider and try to squeeze them in I bet. As far as I'm concerned, there is NO excuse to leave an animal behind to die.
Posted 2007-02-15 2:27 PM (#55626 - in reply to #50962) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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I talked to a rancher at a horse show that evaculated a 150 head of horses to higher ground. They had to rent muti-level semi's to do it and hauled animals for 2 days around the clock to get it done. That included moving additional cattle. Can you image moving all that livestock, then having to move it all back? He also said they sat in traffic with those large semi's for hours.
Posted 2007-02-15 5:38 PM (#55634 - in reply to #55626) Subject: RE: micro chipping
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Could you imagine loosing and having to replace all those animals? $$$$$$$$$ I don't know about other areas, but in Tx there is the http://www.horsegazette.com/ and it has lisings for emergency evacuations. Its people that have room and are willing to give space to keep your animals during an emergency. In 99 we evacuated for a hurricane that hit baffin bay and a family west of San Antonio took 4 of us in with 2 horses, 2 dogs, 2 cats a beefmaster heifer and bull and a rooster for 3 days.