Posted 2006-08-27 7:55 PM (#47491 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Posts: 1723 Location: michigan
Depends on your vet...it costs me about 50 bucks to test and most are good for one year but breed associations differ- arabian horse assocaition requirers a negative coggins within the past 6 mons in order to show.
Posted 2006-08-27 10:27 PM (#47496 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Posts: 238 Location: West Coast
My vet charges between $ 45 and $ 60.00 for a coggins.
In California and many other states the Coggins test for out-of-state horses cannot be more than 6 months old and Health certificates cannot be more than 30 days old.
Posted 2006-08-27 11:47 PM (#47500 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Posts: 2453 Location: Northern Utah
A lot of the coggins pricing depends on HOW FAST you need the papers back.
If the vet has to overnight the blood sample to the lab it's going to cost more than if you give the vet two weeks to get the results back. So planning ahead helps.
My vet charges me $30 and that also includes my 1st health certificate. Addition health certs are $15 each. Health Certificates are usually good for 30 days. But only to the locations named on the certs.
Various states here in the west have different times on the coggins. Utah is 12 months. I believe Wyoming is 6 months. So you need to check with the location you are traveling to.
Also even with a negative coggins some states will not let you travel in or through if your horse has been kept with "x" number of miles of an out break of certain diseases like VS. Last summer Idaho issued restriction that you had to have a vet exam the day prior to travel if you lived in certain counties of Utah because we had a case of VS here in the county. And if you lived with in 10 miles of the outbreak, you could not travel at all, regardless of the vet check.
Posted 2006-08-28 12:50 PM (#47518 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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We call the vet and they send them to us the next day. We se the vet alot with TB's that we board so they take good care of us on our own stuff. Coggins are so much BS that the vet doesn't even draw blood. Now as far as the health papers they won't fudge on them. Our coggins are good for a year and health papers 30 days.
Posted 2006-08-28 10:47 PM (#47545 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Posts: 2453 Location: Northern Utah
There are vets here that offer a Coggins day each spring. All Coggins are $8. So you can get them cheap.
My vet charges $30 and gives a free health certificate. Which is worth $15. So that makes the coggins $15.
I always wondered about validity of the coggins. A lot can change in a year. It seems like an long time to have the test be valid. But I'd sure hate to have to draw blood and have a coggins monthly.
Posted 2006-08-28 10:48 PM (#47546 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Our vet charges $30.00 for Coggins;$10.00 for Health Certificate. We haul - as farmbabe says, farm calls are extra! Here in IN, Coggins are good for a yr; Health Cert for 30 days....
Posted 2006-08-29 11:17 AM (#47584 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Posts: 303 Location: Grapeland, Texas
The last coggins I got, first of the year, was $20.00. You can also get a quick coggins, in an hour, for $25.00. Good for 12 months. Health papers are also $15.00 here.
Posted 2006-09-09 10:15 PM (#48203 - in reply to #47518) Subject: RE: coggins testing
Originally written by HWBar on 2006-08-28 12:50 PM
Coggins are so much BS that the vet doesn't even draw blood. Now as far as the health papers they won't fudge on them.
Wow a little old but just caught this. Where is your vets ethics. Holly Cow! He really does not pull blood. WOW, is this illegal or what?!?!?!?!
Now what I do find funny is here in Florida a OCVI is required not a HEALTH CERTIFICATE as many call it. Official Certificate of Veterinarian Insepection. I never grasped how taking a rectal temp is proving the health of the animal for a certificate??? What happens when that horse comes down with something like strangles, flu, or rhino on day 29?
Oh and 10-14 day turn around coggins $32 - 48 hours $65 This is for the digital coggins that has the actual 3 views of the horse on it.
OCVI run $30-45 depending on visit. We also have the option of extending our OCVI for 6 months to the following states Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia and West Virginia.
Posted 2006-09-10 5:43 AM (#48211 - in reply to #48203) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Originally written by yippeekiyo on 2006-09-09 10:15 PM
Originally written by HWBar on 2006-08-28 12:50 PM
Coggins are so much BS that the vet doesn't even draw blood. Now as far as the health papers they won't fudge on them.
Wow a little old but just caught this. Where is your vets ethics. Holly Cow! He really does not pull blood. WOW, is this illegal or what?!?!?!?!
Now what I do find funny is here in Florida a OCVI is required not a HEALTH CERTIFICATE as many call it. Official Certificate of Veterinarian Insepection. I never grasped how taking a rectal temp is proving the health of the animal for a certificate??? What happens when that horse comes down with something like strangles, flu, or rhino on day 29?
Oh and 10-14 day turn around coggins $32 - 48 hours $65 This is for the digital coggins that has the actual 3 views of the horse on it.
OCVI run $30-45 depending on visit. We also have the option of extending our OCVI for 6 months to the following states Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia and West Virginia.
I take it that you are a vet? When was the last time you had a horse with a positive coggins? That's why I say they are BS and so does my vet. $65 for a coggins with my horses picture? I have the horse I don't need his picture.
Posted 2006-09-10 6:29 AM (#48213 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Posts: 1205 Location: Danielsville Georgia
Negitive coggins DO happen.Its not common because of COGGINS testing. I personaly know of a few barns/stables that had a postive show up and it was a mess.How does a vet NOT draw blood when the LAB issues the stamp and coggins papers??? I'll agree some aspects of it are bull.NEVER have I had anyone that ever asked for proof of coggins match it to the animal etc.
Posted 2006-09-10 7:13 AM (#48215 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Posts: 1723 Location: michigan
The state dept of ag tests the blood in order to issue a report. not sure how a vet would manage it without drawing blood unless they take out a box of crayons, a piece of paper and draw it.
BS or not,if i want to show my horse, I need a neg coggins. Its the rpice we pay......
Posted 2006-09-10 8:14 AM (#48216 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Posts: 187 Location: KS
Wow! I feel lucky, in Kansas I paid $17 for coggins and get my health cert.'s free. A couple of the places I ride in AR & MO do check the papers, but alot of others don't.
Posted 2006-09-10 9:09 AM (#48222 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Posts: 1205 Location: Danielsville Georgia
Vet I use does a fairly decent look over on a health cert.Montiors heart,temp,looks at eyes,looks legs over,looks at sex/anal items.Granted its fairly quick but he ganders at a horse pretty good.
Posted 2006-09-10 2:08 PM (#48238 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Posts: 316 Location: Illinois
Yeah, it kills me how when it was made law to take horses to public/organized riding events to have a coggins how it shot up from $10 to $20 and is currently $30 with my vet. Gotta love it. The price of horse ownership.
Posted 2006-09-11 6:44 AM (#48276 - in reply to #48211) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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I take it that you are a vet? When was the last time you had a horse with a positive coggins? That's why I say they are BS and so does my vet. $65 for a coggins with my horses picture? I have the horse I don't need his picture.
Nope, not a Vet at all. I'm just someone in my 29 years of life that has seen cases. I used to get to go to the Monday cattle auction during the summer as a kid. I was puzzled and excited the first time I saw a horse there to be auctioned off. When I questioned it, I was told it was for the meat men and it would be sold with the brucelloisis positive cows because it was coggins positive. Talk about breaking a young girls heart. Then less then 10 years ago I visited a farm to look at some calves. There was a horse there with large identify brands on it. When I inquired about it I was told it was a positive coggins horse that the owners kept quarantined on their home. That horse could never leave and no other horses could come. They had bought enough land to meet the requirements to quarantine him.
So you can live in your FA LA LA LA world where it does not exist. But meanwhile I will continue to have my guys tested annually and be thankful that the people I choose to associate with in the horse world also feel the same way. I hope to never have to experience a coggins positive horse but I guess as long as there are people out there falsify coggins there is that risk.
Just on a side note our regular fee of $32 for our coggins included the digital coggins pic also. I was against it at first, I thought it was a good way for vets to make more money, but after seeing some pretty crappy drawings or if any drawings at all on coggins, I would much prefer to have something like a real pic. Oh and seeing that I live in a Hurricane state IMO it is an extra bonus.
I love my vet, yes, he is a little higher than some in the area but I know he will be there if I need him. I have heard too many horror stories where no vets would respond to someone's emergency. So if he needs to charge what he does to take care of his family, then he should do it. Look around what isn't high priced anymore???
Posted 2006-09-11 7:48 AM (#48280 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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I have to agree with the digital picture thing. I have the card (passport my husband calls it) for my horses. I keep them in my wallet like a credit card. It is nice having a real picture of my horse instead of some teenage vet techs poor drawing. (No offense to teenage vet tech's). I also live in Florida, I live along I10 about 1/2 mile from the Ag. check point, some of the travelers coming through our wonderful state thinks its a pain to stop and have their animals inspected before being allowed to enter our state, but I for one appreciate the efforts of the Agriculture dept. I spend a lot of money every year to keep my animals healthy and I am glad that anyone can't just bring their sickly horses through here to infect mine.
Cheating on a coggins is like driving around with no insurance on your vehicle, the only people it ever effects are the law abiding citizens, the ones who pay their dues and live life honestly. I too think that coggins testing is BS. You can have your horse tested one day and be negative but it can get infected the next day and be positive for the remainder of the year and you would never know it, however, I like to know from one year to the next if my horses are okay and if they are a threat to anyone elses horses.
If we all were allowed to bend the rules to fit our personal needs then we would have caos, wouldn't we?
Any Vet that has taken the oath to protect and service our animals should be heavily reprimanded for falsifing a coggins!!
Posted 2006-09-12 12:49 PM (#48390 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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I live in central Kentucky(horse country), my family has had horses my whole life(draft pulling horses), I team rope once a month with usually 25-50 people there, I lived and worked on TB farm as a youngster, Needless to say I have been around a few horses in my life. I have never seen a positive coggins horse. From the response on this thread 2 people out of 5 or 6 responding here have seen a positive coggins horse. They must be alot more common than I thought they were. My vet don't draw the blood because he has all our horses on record, he issues a coggins for all 4 at once actually they will be done the end of this month. We get them done before we go out west riding every Oct. they are good for a year. I'll ask him in a couple of weeks how many positive coggins horses he has seen. He only works on horses so we'll see.
Posted 2006-09-12 12:59 PM (#48391 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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About 10 years ago we had some folks down the road from us with 6 beautiful Paint horses, 5 out of the 6 came back positive one year after a coggins test. Since the owners didn't have enough property to quarintine the horses they were destroyed. The one was sold and the people have never returned to the horse business,very sad. Of course it paniced us too death, but luckily we had no problems. I am kinda curious though how common it really is, I think I'll ask my vet also.
Posted 2006-09-12 1:00 PM (#48392 - in reply to #47484) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the blood samples had to go to a state lab, and then they sign the coggins papers. I don't know how you could have coggins tests done without drawing the blood. One of our 4H kids horse came down with it 3 years ago. It was very heartbreaking.
Posted 2006-09-12 2:19 PM (#48399 - in reply to #48392) Subject: RE: coggins testing
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Originally written by Z71 on 2006-09-12 11:00 AM
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the blood samples had to go to a state lab, and then they sign the coggins papers. I don't know how you could have coggins tests done without drawing the blood. One of our 4H kids horse came down with it 3 years ago. It was very heartbreaking.
Our coggins are sent to a lab and the lab signs off on the test and includes a test#. Infact, a few years ago, I forgot to get a coggins for one of my horses until the day before we were leaving. My vet came out and drew blood and put "pending" on the certificate. The test was negative, but my vet got a nasty call from the State of Nevada, telling her never to do that again.
I have no idea how a vet could issue a coggins certificate without a blood test.
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