Posted 2005-09-15 6:40 PM (#30429) Subject: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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Hi Everybody,
I have designed a hay bale lift to load bales on top of my trailer. It works real slick with a small winch. I am thinking about producing and marketing it. It's very simple as you set the bail on two rails (like a forklift), push a button, the bale goes straight up and unloads at the top. You can then bring it down and load a few more. One person is all that is required to load it. If you can set a bale in the trailer you can do it. The loader also doubles as a ladder. Once you have loaded a few bales you just climb the ladder and tie it down. I will probably offer it with a rack to hold the bales. It is also just as easy to unload. I am a manufacturer of automation products and have just started to get into the horse world. I have a few ideas that might make it a lot easier on us.
Posted 2005-09-15 8:27 PM (#30434 - in reply to #30429) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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I have a setup that works really well already. I use the front end loader on my tractor with removeable forks. Lift the bales up to the top of the trailer and pull off the forks to the trailer. Works nicely also.
Posted 2005-09-16 7:29 AM (#30452 - in reply to #30429) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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Branson Motor Works, who makes the Streamliners did this 20 years ago. We've since copied it on several smaller GNs. More like an electric winch and a net around whatever needs to go up to the roof rack. You have to beef the fire out of the rear corner post in order to counteract the pull of the winch. Very useful. Added about $1000 to the cost as I recall.
Posted 2005-09-16 8:02 AM (#30455 - in reply to #30453) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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Originally written by MIfarmbabe on 2005-09-16 8:30 AM
Originally written by efaubert1 on 2005-09-15 9:08 PM
Originally written by MIfarmbabe on 2005-09-15 8:26 PM
Square bales or round bales?
Umm, unless you can pick up a round bale and set it in a trailer I would think he means square bales for you HORSE TRAILER.
Ummm, sorry for my dumbness. I guess I am still on hay season mode and "thought" he meant for loading "trailers", not horse trailers.............
Dumbness, where? We all miss a line in a post occasionally, me especially. It was just funny when I was responding to visualize a "farmbabe" trying to force a 900 pound round bale through the escape door!
Posted 2005-09-16 10:06 AM (#30459 - in reply to #30429) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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The unit has an electric winch that is attached to the rack on top of the trailer. You set the square bales on the bars and push the button. Up it goes and drops on the roof. Then you bring down the trolley and do it again. Since the winch is attached to the framework it doesn't put much stress on the trailer. Just the weight of the bale which is only 130#s or so. I will post pics in a few weeks once my patent guy says o.k. Then I will be offering these to trailer companies.
Posted 2005-09-16 10:59 AM (#30460 - in reply to #30429) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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I like this idea. You should offer an option that attaches
to existing hayrack & ladder. I have a hayrack/Ladder, but no
tractor to put hay up there. So I use my first stall for hay,
which has a stud wall.
I've also consider just putting a hand winch on the hay rack
and using a net to get hay up there.
Posted 2005-09-16 11:03 AM (#30461 - in reply to #30429) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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It is a modular unit that will adapt to any existing rack. I will have to possibly make some alterations depending upon the rack you have. We should be selling them in six weeks. Still crunching numbers for pricing.
Posted 2005-09-16 12:28 PM (#30466 - in reply to #30429) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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Actually a great idea but not a new concept, we developed & patented the Bale Buddie System 6 years ago. Available in either a hand operated or electric version. The removable frame track mounts to the side of any trailer, has a 150lb. capacity & works very easy. Can be removed & transferred to another trailer any time. I would be interested to see your design & how this style would adapt to the hay rack.
Posted 2005-09-16 3:56 PM (#30481 - in reply to #30471) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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I checked out your product on the web. Nice design. Mine is a bit more complex since it has a small electric winch, battery and it actually is a ladder and it dumps the bales on the roof once it hits the top. That way you don't have to be on top and bottom at the same time. More expensive also.
Posted 2005-09-16 6:15 PM (#30490 - in reply to #30429) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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They (the bales) shoudn't be starting at ground level.
The last time we discussed this I asked why the hay was "downstairs" in the barn and if the horses went "upstairs" to bed.
Just back the trailer up to the hay loft and shove 'em out - if Ya can't hit a barn door you SHOULD at LEAST be able to hit a trailer roof.
Posted 2005-09-18 3:00 PM (#30563 - in reply to #30429) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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One of the major complaints my trailer dealer had, was that there are so few "Add-ons" for trailers. You buy a new truck and you add a Spray in Bed liner, a tonneau cover, a GN hitch, wheels, tires, chips and exhaust. I'm getting carried away here, but you get the point, people add things to customize their truck. The industry has the statistics and it's something like $1000 per truck gets added after it leaves the lot.
My trailer dealer sells me a trailer and doesn't hear from me for 5-6 years until I'm ready for newer trailer. He would love to have something to sell me as an add on so I would come back in 6months or a year and add things as I could afford them.
I have a hay rack on my trailer. It has a water tank attached to it. I use it to carry water, attach the hose and turn it on. I've yet to store a bale of hay up there. I'll make room for the 3-4 bales of hay in the truck bed before I heft a bale up 9' feet to the top of that trailer.
I imagine it would be a difficult to sell a $1000 lift to someone with a $6000 trailer. But wouldn't be a big deal to someone with a $30,000+ living quarters.
Posted 2005-09-19 12:43 PM (#30621 - in reply to #30429) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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It would be nice if the bale lifter could run off a generator
if the trailer has one, instead of having to add a motor &
another battery.
Also, being the girlie kind of person I am, I'd want it to
look like it belonged on my trailer. I looked at the Bale
Buddie, and it looks like a great idea, but I couldn't take
my eye's off the winch at the bottom.
Posted 2005-09-19 2:17 PM (#30628 - in reply to #30429) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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Once I am in production I can offer a 120 volt unit to run off of the generator. All of the winch battery and mechanisms are on top. you can barely see it. It looks like an aluminum access ladder up the side of the trailer. We can even powder coat it white to camouflage it the trailers color. Hiding all of the components is a priority. I am also someone who likes my stuff to look sharp.
Posted 2005-09-19 4:16 PM (#30635 - in reply to #30429) Subject: RE: Hay Bale lift for trailers
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Product liablity is covered. I already manufacture equipment that I send all over the world. Plus I have an attorney who is like a Pit Bull with Aids. I have never been sued or even threatened to be sued in 15 years. My machines don't fail or hurt people.