Posted 2005-05-22 6:13 PM (#25453) Subject: Insulate and Panel LQ
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Location: Texas
I am ordering a new 4 star w/ 5 1/2' SW, 7'6" tall, 7' wide. Right now I have ordered it with astroturf on the bed, drop, floor and slant wall. I would like to convert to LQ in the future so I am thinking about going ahead and dropping the astroturf and insulating and paneling the dressing room. Anybody know about how much this will run me (if I do it myself or send it somewhere). I would be more interested in doing it myself...how would I go about doing it? Can I purchase materials at a place like Home Depot or Lowes? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks :-)
Posted 2005-05-22 6:28 PM (#25454 - in reply to #25453) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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Location: Portland, OR
Hi,
I can't say much about price,but, look back at previous posts about materials. There was some mention about getting quite a few things from Home Depot (or similar store).
Regarding the insulation and paneling...best to wait until electrical and plumbing (if any) are in, otherwise, paneling and insulation would need to be cut.
Good luck with your project and congratulations on your new trailer!
Posted 2005-05-22 7:53 PM (#25456 - in reply to #25453) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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Location: Danville, VA
I just finished mine. Supplies bought from lowe's and Builders discount supply. electrical from advance auto. Windows ordered from redneck trailer supply, vent too. Spent no more than $500 and did it all myself! Well, my husband did start out helping me drill starter holes in the frame, but when aneighbor stopped to chat, I picked up the drill and drilled the rest. He didn't come back to help!
I used the advise given thru the other threads. I wishI had used larger windows as was suggested to me by someone here. But I was trying to be conservative.
Posted 2005-05-23 1:21 PM (#25506 - in reply to #25453) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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Doing it yourself will be ALOT cheaper then having someone else or the dealership do it. We did ours last summer and its all notty pine, with shower, hot water heater, A/C and heat and we have less then $1500 into everything. Thats the water tanks and all. Everything was bought at Home Depot and the local RV dealer.
Posted 2005-05-23 4:17 PM (#25522 - in reply to #25519) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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I have all the recipts for mine but haven't added it up yet cause I'm not finished. Like BIllW, got most of the stuff at Lowes or Home Depot and most of the electonic stuff like lights off of Ebay. I'm using a knotty pine tongue and groove type paneling and it's very easy to work with. Depending on how much you want to do is how much you'll spend but you'll definately get off cheaper if you can do it yourself.
Posted 2005-05-25 6:01 AM (#25632 - in reply to #25453) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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I have got a question about insulation. Does the insulation stop the condensation that happens on the walls and ceiliing? My last trailer was already finished and I had problems with condensation. What do you suggest doing the insulation with to stop this. Do you line the walls with something first?
Posted 2005-05-25 7:44 PM (#25679 - in reply to #25632) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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Originally written by STONEY on 2005-05-25 6:01 AM
I have got a question about insulation. Does the insulation stop the condensation that happens on the walls and ceiliing? My last trailer was already finished and I had problems with condensation. What do you suggest doing the insulation with to stop this. Do you line the walls with something first?
Please help.
Steel trailer? I believe you line it with roofing felt. We have an aluminum and don't have a condensation problem. And it's HOT and humid here!
Posted 2005-05-26 10:22 AM (#25711 - in reply to #25698) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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Originally written by STONEY on 2005-05-26 7:04 AM
My trailer is aluminum too now so maybe I won't have that problem either.
You need to have a vapour barrier or use an insulation that does not required it (styrofoam or the silver bubble wrap). If you need a vapour barrier (basically plastic) it needs to be placed over the insulation just under the panelling
Posted 2005-05-26 11:48 AM (#25715 - in reply to #25453) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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You will also want to avoid fasteners (screws, etc) that hold the finish paneling and attach directly to the metal frame of the trailer. Such fasteners can wick cold into the warm moist interior and form condensation points...Attach the finish paneling to the wood furring strips instead.
Posted 2005-05-26 1:30 PM (#25722 - in reply to #25453) Subject: RE: cowboy shower
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Hello everybody,I would like to put a cowboy shower in the first stall of my 3horse slant GN. I've got the walk-through door to the harse area from the DR.I have a 61/2 gal hot water heater already,just need the shower unit and tips on installing it in an aluminum trailer.I also need to find a small shower pan/base.The smallest I could find was 32x32....Zowie!!!,that'll eat-up too much space don't ya think??Also,wear can I find one of those corner water tanks and how much can I expect to spend??My DR was already decked-out when I bought it used.It's in great shape and I'd like to keep it for a long while,so I don't mind putting a little work into it.I've been reading your posts and you folks are pretty darn handyI saw the pics too,wow!! great work!!!
Also,I don't have a rear tack and wonder if anyone out there has built one of those?
Posted 2005-05-26 1:39 PM (#25723 - in reply to #25721) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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Originally written by barrelsnpcs on 2005-05-26 2:11 PM
Is there a certain type and length of screw you use to attach the furring strips to the aluminum braces?
I used a standard self tapping metal screw in my trailer. The length will depend on what you use for stripping and the size of your trailers supports. you want something long enough to go through the stripping and secure into the bracing - but no so long that it will go through the outside... that was a 1 - 1/4" long for me, but yours may be different.
Posted 2006-01-18 9:21 AM (#35652 - in reply to #25456) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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Location: Lakeland, FL
Just got a used 4Star with a 4' shortwall and we are excited about starting the LQ conversion. I found your pictures, but wondered what it was that you used for your ceiling? It looks great! How do you like it so far?
Posted 2006-01-18 11:20 AM (#35663 - in reply to #35659) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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Location: Lakeland, FL
Sorry. I am new forums and not quite sure how to navigate them. I saw the pictures that Anablackcris posted and liked the look of the product she used on her ceilings. But I am interested in what everyone has used and how they have liked it. I was planning on having a local trailer dealer do it for me, but after they quoted me $750 just for the ceiling, we decided that DIY was the way to go. We have the tools and the ability, just have to find the time!
Posted 2006-01-18 11:26 AM (#35664 - in reply to #35663) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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That what it takes... Time. I've been doing ours since last January and it's just now getting to be finished. I've just done it a little at a time. As far as the insulation, I used the 1/2" foam insulation in ours, cut to fit in between the supports and then sealed with 2" aluminum tape. I have pics on my web site. http://todd.redwrench.com
You can do a search as well and come up wtith plenty of reading. Everyone here is quite helpful.
Posted 2006-01-18 1:37 PM (#35672 - in reply to #35664) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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Thanks Todd, your website is a wealth of information and you did a fantastic job on your conversion. It is simply gorgeous! I will look more in depth later, but a first glance has already answered some of my most imediate questions. What a help!
Posted 2006-01-19 12:19 PM (#35719 - in reply to #25722) Subject: RE: cowboy shower
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Marlean,
I got my plastic water tanks thru my dealer. Since I bought my trailer brand new there, I have a card that states 20% off. My corner tank was about $50 and the one in my hay rack was about $60. Otherwise, country plastic is the cheapest I have seen them, if you local feed/tack store can't do any better.
In building your rear tack, take measurements from a trailer that has one. On my previous trailer, I wanted to build one, but I would not have enough room for the last horse. My current trailer has one and there is about 6" to 12" difference in the width of the last stall compared to my previous trailer.
Posted 2006-07-26 9:20 AM (#45426 - in reply to #25453) Subject: RE: Insulate and Panel LQ
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I just wanted to thank everyone who has posted here. This is the first thread I found when I was hunting for help upfitting my LQ. Todd was especially helpful in answering my questions and I appreciate so much everyone's advice.
Yippee! It's finished! Mine doesn't look nearly as professional as the others posted here, but since this was my first experience doing anything anywhere near this type of thing, I think I did a darn good job. I couldn't have done it without the help here though.