Posted 2013-12-30 2:54 PM (#156498) Subject: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 60 Location: Alberta Canada
Some of us worry about not having enough truck when we are just fine. Others, seem oblivious to outright danger. I just saw a gal load four horses in a trailer and drive off pulling it with a little Tacoma truck! On icy winter roads! I worry about my F250 being enough truck for my Sundowner 2 horse trailer..... I just don't get how someone could not realize how dangerous it is for man and beast to pull such a heavy load with a mini truck!
Posted 2013-12-30 3:48 PM (#156500 - in reply to #156498) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
Extreme Veteran
Posts: 430 Location: TN
One place I ride regularly has a Dodge Durango in the lot pulling a 4 horse bumper pull. I just shake my head and ask God to please not let me on the road when "those people" are! You know what they say about God protecting fools and children!
Posted 2013-12-30 4:41 PM (#156503 - in reply to #156500) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 60 Location: Alberta Canada
I hear ya. How on earth could a Dodge Durango or a Toyota Tacoma pulling a four horse bumper pull possibly stop in a hurry if the had too? Also, what happens if they are going up a hill with not enough power? Would the trailer start pulling them backwards? Yep these folks are definitely "God's lesser gifted children".
Posted 2013-12-30 5:41 PM (#156507 - in reply to #156498) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 178 Location: Richmond, Ky
I helped a guy pull his trailer out one day, he had a 3 horse chaparral with LQ pulling it with a 1500 Chevy 2WD, hit a steep hill on wet pavement and he broke traction and went backwards with no control, and thank goodness he was stopped by a tree from going over the bank.
Posted 2013-12-30 6:25 PM (#156512 - in reply to #156498) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 218 Location: Ohio
I really don't want to have to get a special license to pull my horse trailer but stupid people like that sure do help those who make the argument that we need them.
Posted 2013-12-31 6:36 AM (#156522 - in reply to #156498) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 657 Location: Rayne, LA
While camping in Arkansas we saw a guy pull into camp with a Toyota Tocomma pulling a bumper pull camper with a two horse trailer behind that. He had a horse in one stall and a motorcycle in the other. He claimed it did fine but we all had other thoughts!
Posted 2013-12-31 8:54 AM (#156523 - in reply to #156498) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 25 Location: dripping springs, TX
I pull a 4 horse, trails west, 9' shortwall. I pull it with a 3500 chevy diesel single cab, single rear wheel. I regularly cruise down IH10 to El Paso at about 87mph up to 92mph. Four horses, water, loaded for a week long trip. It pulls like a dream.
I guess it really depends how much weight is on the bed of the truck and the trucks towing capacity.
Someone pulling with a toyota or a durango that is not fully loaded is probably fine. At least they are out there doing it.
Posted 2013-12-31 9:08 AM (#156524 - in reply to #156498) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 1351 Location: Decatur, Texas
Where is the DISLIKE button when you need it???I would hate being on the roads with people who think it is fine to be under trucked and over weight and hate it even worse with ones like the person who posted just above braggin' about pulling horses at 87 to 92 mph!... My opinion people like this sure do not need to haul animals!
Posted 2013-12-31 5:06 PM (#156540 - in reply to #156498) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 25 Location: dripping springs, TX
First day on the forums and I'm already making friends.
Trailer tire: Cooper Discover H/T LT235/85 16
Truck tire: Michelin LTX AT2 LT 265/70 R18
I have made this trip out to New Mexico, Grand Canyon, Moab, El Paso at least 20 times out and back. I drive most of the time at 86mph. Would any of you run 70mph if that was the speed limit? Have you ever been out to west Texas say from Junction, Tx to El Paso, Tx. Once you get into AZ the speed limit is 75mph. Would you go 75mph? Ok so the speed limit on IH10 is 80mph, I just round up because the DPS really aren't looking at you unless your going 90mph or above.
Posted 2013-12-31 5:28 PM (#156541 - in reply to #156540) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 60 Location: Alberta Canada
Um... Unless my calculations are way out then 92 mph converts to 148kph. I may not be the most seasoned horse hauler on this forum, however, in my professional life and education I am qualified to discuss trauma(human). I can assure you with 100 percent certainty that hauling a loaded four horse trailer and going at that speed that your chance of survival in the event of a motor vehicle collision is absolutely zero. The question really is how many other unfortunate drivers/passengers of nearby motorists you will take with you. While I am no vet,I dare say that your horses would also perish in any accident involving the high speed you boast of traveling. For heaven's sake please slow down! For your safety, your passengers, your horses, and other motorists. SPEED KILLS!
Posted 2013-12-31 6:48 PM (#156547 - in reply to #156498) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 434 Location: Brooksville, Fl
Just because it has been done and 'can' be done doesn't make it the right, or safe, thing to do. It's like a ticking time bomb....who will be taken out with you?
Posted 2013-12-31 7:35 PM (#156551 - in reply to #156498) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 218 Location: Ohio
Yes the speed limit is much higher out in west Texas. I have driven it many times. The problem is that the tires on a horse trailer are not rated to go that fast especially when hauling weight. Eventually you will have one blow going 90+ mph and we will not hear you discuss it on this forum, you will be dead. You need to haul at the rated speed for your equipment. ALL your equipment. That includes the tires. Just because your truck can get the rig up to that speed does not mean you should. I pull with an F350 dually. It will pull my 38ft horse trailer at 90+ if I wanted. It is just not safe.
Posted 2013-12-31 11:17 PM (#156555 - in reply to #156498) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 385 Location: high desert, CA.
Partner, just let the California CHP catch you going that fast, and I can GAYRONTEE you will be put in the jail!! Yeah, the speed limit for lets say I-15 from Barstow to Vegas is 75MPH. If you are towing...and no matter who, or what you are towing, if you are exceeding about 62 with a trailer, you will be stopped, ticketed, and perhaps arrested. I can only imagine the stress on the tires when the ambient temperature is about 112*F, and you have one tire that is about 3-5 LBS under full.....I have driven this road many times, have pulled 22,000 lbs with my 3500, and doing about 62, have never had a problem. By the way...the speed limit in California is 55MPH if you are towing, as it is for trucks. ( No one drives exactly 55,but to exceed it by much is asking for a visit to the calaboose)
Posted 2014-01-01 3:05 AM (#156562 - in reply to #156498) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 3853 Location: Vermont
If one trailer tire fails at 90 mph...depending on your total trailer weights...the second one on that same side will fail rather rapidly...and unless you are real lucky at that moment...you are going to be in the wreck of your life and your horses' lives...:(
Posted 2014-01-01 8:48 AM (#156564 - in reply to #156563) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 36 Location: The Natural State
Common sense and horse sense are alive and well... unfortunately (especially in the case of rfrank!) the HORSES seem to have all of it! I hope I'm never on the highway when he is!!! And, by the way, the correct word is
"curmudgeon" not "gurmudgeon". The definition of curmudgeon is: "an ill-tempered person full of resentment and stubborn notions." Perhaps this explains your crazy idea of "safe" driving speeds. I hope the good Lord watches over your horses... and the rest of us that happen to be on the road when you are!
Posted 2014-01-01 10:46 AM (#156570 - in reply to #156540) Subject: RE: Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
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Posts: 63 Location: suffolk
Trailer tire: Cooper Discover H/T LT235/85 16
your tires are made for a light truck or SUV...And your using it for hauling horses.
The Discoverer H/T is Cooper’s premium touring SUV/light truck original equipment replacement tire. It is designed for drivers who want ride comfort, all-season traction and a premium warranty in a highway touring tire. The Discoverer H/T is suitable for a wide range of vehicles including SUVs, crossovers (CUV) and light trucks, and vans up to 1 ton.4
Four horse trailer being pulled by a Toyota Tacoma!
