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AZgrulla
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2012-05-31 8:10 AM (#144359)
Subject: truck tires vs trailer tires



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What kind of tire do you use on your trailer? Trailer radials or truck radials?

 

 

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-05-31 8:45 AM (#144361 - in reply to #144359)
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LT truck radials
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AZgrulla
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2012-05-31 8:56 AM (#144362 - in reply to #144359)
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On the LQ we run truck radials...235 85 16s...on the small 3horseGN we run trailer tires.

 

I have heard that truck radials on trailers 'break down' faster since the walls are not as strong for the weight. Thoughts?

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-05-31 9:22 AM (#144363 - in reply to #144359)
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I believe you should talk with someone else more knowledgeable, about the construction and usage of the LT and ST tires.

Consider the front tires of a loaded truck whilst encountering a curve. Not only must the tire support the weight of the vehicle, but must be able to support it during high side slip angles. This is much more extreme than the trailer will encounter. A radial tire is constructed to provide support with less slip, by the sidewall deflection it provides.

The truck's tires are located on each corner of the vehicle, which often results in varying loading as it's used. A trailer's tires are mounted in close proximity, and most often support each other and share common loading. The stresses on a trailer tire, with the same amount of loading, is less than the towing vehicle.

If a tire will not fail on the front of a truck, it will not fail sooner on the trailer.

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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2012-05-31 10:23 PM (#144394 - in reply to #144359)
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this is good to know
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Redford 1
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2012-06-01 1:25 AM (#144402 - in reply to #144359)
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Truck tires are what all the tire shops recommend in my area too. Funny thing is the post on BHW about this. Several ppl over there don't agree .
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laira
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2012-06-02 4:28 AM (#144426 - in reply to #144359)
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what size trailer? I run 15" LT tires on my trailer that weighs 5800 lbs on the axles. tires rated for 2000 each so there is plenty of capacity. I have about 50,000 on these with no problems. But I bought a heavier trailer, 32 feet, and could not find any LT 15" tires that gave me enough capacity with some safety margin, so I went with the ST tires.
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AZgrulla
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Posted 2012-06-02 7:55 AM (#144428 - in reply to #144359)
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We have an LQ that weighs in full at about 12k...

we are running 16s

we bought them at discount.

 



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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2012-06-02 8:08 PM (#144452 - in reply to #144359)
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"ST" tires feature materials and construction to meet the higher load requirements and demands of trailering.
The polyester cords are bigger than they would be for a comparable "P" or "LT" tire.
The steel cords have a larger diameter and greater tensile strength to meet the additional load requirements.
"ST" tire rubber compounds contain more chemicals to resist weather and ozone cracking.
Trailer tires are not designed to wear out.
The life of a trailer tire is limited by time and duty cycles.
The mileage expectation of a trailer tire is 5,000 to 12,000 miles.

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2012-06-02 8:12 PM (#144453 - in reply to #144452)
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Time and the elements weaken a trailer tire.
In approximately three years, roughly one-third of the tire's strength is gone.
Three to five years is the projected life of a normal trailer tire.
It is suggested that trailer tires be replaced after three to four years of service regardless of tread depth or tire appearance.

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AZgrulla
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2012-06-02 9:19 PM (#144456 - in reply to #144359)
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Tires in the hot part of AZ last 3 years. After 3 years you are hauling on 'borrowed time'. The heat/sun does wonders on tires.
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trot-on
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2012-06-02 10:03 PM (#144457 - in reply to #144359)
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I usually wear mine out before they get "to old".
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Jeepplr
Reg. Oct 2007
Posted 2012-06-02 10:11 PM (#144459 - in reply to #144359)
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I am running Firestone Highway something 235/85 R 16 LT tires on my trailer.  It is a 4 horse with a 10 foot SW. 

On my 16 foot flat bed Jeep trailer I went through 6 new ST tires in 2 weeks between Ohio and Colorado and back one summer.  Goodyear said they got too hot, it was over 100* that day.  The truck did not have any issues with the LT tires.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-06-03 12:17 AM (#144462 - in reply to #144359)
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Some questions for thought:

When is the last time anyone has heard of a loaded pick up, with the tires properly inflated, blowing two or three of them during a single trip?

How often has this malady been quite commonly reported with ST tires, new and old?

How many non commercial pick up owners, have LT tires that finally wear out at over 40K or so?

During that time, how many incurred blow outs?

How many miles do the ST tires travel before they should be replaced? ?

During that time, how many tires were replaced before they wore out, at a three or four year time mark, because of age?

Were the owners of pick up trucks and LT tires, ever told by the manufacturers, to only travel at a maximum of 65 MPH?

Were the owners of these trucks ever told that their steering would be unstable, because the sidewalls were too flexible?

How many pick up owners have rolled their trucks, because the tires' sidewalls were too unstable?

How many truck owners have been told not to use their vehicles on hot days?

How many of the millions of LT truck owners have complained about the service of their tires, compared to the fewer number of trailer owners?

How many trailer owners complain about blow outs, after they have switched to LT tires?

Why do the tire manufactures not restrict the usage of LT tires on trailers, but do so with ST tires on any passenger carrying vehicle?



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2burkeboys
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2012-06-06 6:54 PM (#144621 - in reply to #144462)
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So, I've done a lot of reading on this subject and I'm more confused than ever. I have an '04 Featherlite 4 horse with a 6' shortwall. We haul 4 horses totaling around 4800 pounds. Our dressing room has two bunks, one cabinet 2x3 and one cabinet 2x5 or so. The trailer came from the factory with Uniroyal LT235/85R16 E tires. I don't recall that we have ever replaced or repaired one. Our trips are fairly short with the longest being about 280 miles. We are ready to replace the tires due to their age alone.The question is, do I buy the same tires or buy an ST tire? Do I need to change the load range? I have a friend that will not put any tire with less than a load range of G on her trailer (similar size to mine).
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-06-06 10:41 PM (#144631 - in reply to #144359)
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You've had excellent results with your present tires. You do not need the additional capacity of a "G" rated tire, the "E's" are fine.

I would not down grade the tires to a ST rating, instead, purchase any number of American LT brands of the same size.

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laira
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2012-06-08 5:44 AM (#144662 - in reply to #144359)
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Cloud9
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2012-06-12 6:58 PM (#144751 - in reply to #144359)
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I have great success with Hankook trailer tire with a "G" rating. They are 7.50R16 14plyf19 Tubeless Hwy by Hankook. This is my second LQ trailer using Hankook. No problems. Made in South Korea NOT China.
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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2012-06-12 9:45 PM (#144758 - in reply to #144359)
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so if i am reading this right everybody is saying to NOT to put st tires on my trailer put the LT which is on them now 
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2012-06-13 4:56 AM (#144770 - in reply to #144758)
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Originally written by loveduffy on 2012-06-12 9:45 PM

so if i am reading this right everybody is saying to NOT to put st tires on my trailer put the LT which is on them now 

 

That is correct...!! Unless you need a 14 ply load range "G" Goodyear G614RST... They are beyond expensive...

http://www.goodyear.com/cfmx/web/truck/line.cfm?prodline=160007

 

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Snickers
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2012-06-14 10:17 AM (#144812 - in reply to #144359)
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Not all Hankook tires are made in Korea. I have a 2011 Terrain that has Hankook tires and they were made in China! Our local tire dealer sells quite a few Hankook tires and even runs those on his cars. He did not believe me till he looked at the tires. Perhaps GM worked a deal with Hankook and got a lower price if the tires were made in China. Had checked with the tire guy prior to buying the car and baised on his response about the Hankook tire didn't ask for the tires to be changed prior to purchase of the car.
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laira
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2012-06-21 5:30 AM (#145015 - in reply to #144359)
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Trucks tire has the largest tire inventory in the Northeast! They stocks Hercules Tires, Goodyear Tires and Dunlop Tires but can order something specific if you prefer. From passenger tires to lawn mower tires and everything in between. SUV Tires, Light Truck Tires, Trailer Tires, Specialty Tires, Commercial Truck Tires and even Used Tires.
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Hillview
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2012-06-26 4:24 PM (#145125 - in reply to #144359)
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I just bought new tires for my 11' LQ.  Discount Tire recommended Carlisle ST235/80R16 load E tires.  I live in Arizona.  I used to live in Tennessee.  I had LT tires when there and I had a lot of blow-outs.  I hoped that switching to ST's would solve that problem.  So far, so good.  So why not buy STs?  I don't understand the reasons for the recommendation to buy LT tires for a trailer. 

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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2012-06-26 9:14 PM (#145131 - in reply to #144359)
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I will stick to the LT tire that are on now they have service me well
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2012-06-27 9:08 AM (#145149 - in reply to #145125)
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Originally written by Hillview on 2012-06-26 4:24 PM

I just bought new tires for my 11' LQ.  Discount Tire recommended Carlisle ST235/80R16 load E tires.  I live in Arizona.  I used to live in Tennessee.  I had LT tires when there and I had a lot of blow-outs.  I hoped that switching to ST's would solve that problem.  So far, so good.  So why not buy STs?  I don't understand the reasons for the recommendation to buy LT tires for a trailer. 

You're going to really love those Carlisle's in about two years... You'll wish you had the LT tires back..... If you had alot of trouble in the past with LT tires, then they must have been OLD, OVERLOADED, and/or UNDERINFLATED... Here's a word from Carlisle on the ST tires... Bet your tire man didn't show you this....!!!  http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTrailerTireFacts.dos

  • Time and the elements weaken a trailer tire.
  • In approximately three years, roughly one-third of the tire's strength is gone.
  • Three to five years is the projected life of a normal trailer tire.
  • It is suggested that trailer tires be replaced after three to four years of service regardless of tread depth or tire appearance
  • Good luck with your ST tires in that Az. sunshine...

     

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