Posted 2011-07-21 9:01 AM (#135906) Subject: 2 + 1 trailers
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I am in the market for a 2 + 1 trailer and am considering Adam, Shadow, Hawk, and possibly Featherlite. I have looked at the Adam and was impressed by it, but don't have any prior experience with the brand. I own a Hawk 3 horse slant which just doesn't give my horses enough room. I think the Hawk will be too heavy. Any recommendations out there? Anyone able to give me other options or some experience with Adam?
Posted 2011-07-21 9:13 AM (#135907 - in reply to #135906) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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I think you will find a trailer review on this site; believe they are under forums-horse trailer news. Seems like the Adams rated pretty highly. I'm curious as I, too, have large horses-what about the Hawk is too small for yours?
Posted 2011-07-21 10:46 AM (#135911 - in reply to #135906) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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The Hawk 2+1 is in the warmblood Classic size, 6'8" wide, very generously sized. Most of the 2+1 trailers have the side ramp in front of the slant stall. We order them with the side ramp behind the front stall so that you can load a golf cart or similar equipment. If you have a front ramp, the cart will run into the slant wall before it gets in the trailer. Also, you can lead a horse up a ramp or back it down, but you can't back one up the ramp. At least I've never had one that broke.
Posted 2011-07-21 11:25 AM (#135914 - in reply to #135907) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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The Hawk I have is a 3 horse slant load. The length of the slant stalls is too short - only abt 7'. It is also 18' long and weighs 6000#... I don't know the weight of their 2+1, but the length is 23' so its going to be heavy!
Posted 2011-07-21 11:37 AM (#135916 - in reply to #135914) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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I had the same problem with the GN 2H slant load Hawk I used to own. The slant stalls were too short for my long, tall TWH. The Hawk was a great trailer, well made and easy to tow. Most of the time I only hauled one horse so could tie open the divider to give Chester more room to stretch out. I would have hesitated to undertake a long haul with two horses of size.
The Hawk 2 + 1 in the ad looks like a wonderful trailer but I'd think you'd need a 1 ton to pull it.
Posted 2011-07-21 2:13 PM (#135928 - in reply to #135906) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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Kay, maybe you can speak to this...whose trailers have the longest stalls? What is the standard length of most trailer stalls? That would be a tremendous help for those of us with long-backed animals.
Posted 2011-07-21 2:20 PM (#135929 - in reply to #135906) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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I would love to discuss the 2 + 1 All Aluminum Trailer we have here...max air fan, fans for horses all the bells and whistles! shadowhorsetrailer@gmail.com
Posted 2011-07-21 2:30 PM (#135930 - in reply to #135928) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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Originally written by terri s on 2011-07-21 2:13 PM
Kay, maybe you can speak to this...whose trailers have the longest stalls? What is the standard length of most trailer stalls? That would be a tremendous help for those of us with long-backed animals.
The trailer I showed in my post has the XXL stalls....
That truck of yours should be able to tow about 16,000# with a pin weight of around 2500#. GCVWR is 22,000#.
Posted 2011-07-21 5:21 PM (#135939 - in reply to #135937) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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Originally written by Gone on 2011-07-21 4:25 PM
What is the advantage of this type of set up? I have never seen this before.
You can unload any one of the three horses without disturbing the other two... Maybe you got a horse that rides better in a slant or straight load, just put that horse in the stall that works for him. It's a pretty versatile trailer. Alot of mfg.'s are building 2+1 trailers now. One could do the same thing with a four horse head to head but the trailer would be much longer. Plenty of room in front of the straight load stalls for ATV/UTV, driving cart, hay, feed, tack, etc...
Picture below of a 4 Star 2+1.... A different configuration from the Hawk, the Hawk is designed with a slant divider whereas alot of the other trailers just has a box stall in front of the two straight load stalls.
Posted 2011-07-21 6:07 PM (#135940 - in reply to #135937) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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Originally written by Gone on 2011-07-21 4:25 PM
What is the advantage of this type of set up? I have never seen this before.
Besides the comments of retento...You can also use the plus 1 as a box stall if you are at a local show with 2 horses...you can show one horse and have one horse in the box stall and then switch...
Posted 2011-07-22 8:07 AM (#135954 - in reply to #135906) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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Let me ask this in another way-horse wears an 84" blanket, or 7', so far so good. What about room for the rest of their bodies in a 7' stall? Mine seems very claustrophobic in that setup. Even standing diagonally, which she doesn't, she seems very cramped for length. So, is there a trailer with a longer stall length? I think this is what Nancy was trying to ask also; not trying to hijack the thread. Thanks.
Posted 2011-07-25 5:37 PM (#136080 - in reply to #135906) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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Many (not all) manufacturers use the same angle for their slant stalls. There is a 4' difference in the sidewall measurement in a 7' wide box. In other words, draw a rectangle. Start one stall divider (or wall) at the front left corner, 0". The latch for that divider would be 48" back on the right sidewall. If that box is only 80" wide (many of them are so that there are no wheel wells inside), then that stall will be shorter, using the same 4' offset. If the box is 8 ' wide, then the stall is longer. Some manufacturers will change the offset in an 8' wide box to get more horses in less length, or in a 6' wide box they will increase the offset to make the stall long enough to be usable, also increasing the length of the trailer.
The Hawk offset for the 80" wide box is 55", with 44" of wall length between the dividers. This makes the stall measurement 126". Remember that the slant stall is measured from long corner to long corner, not the length of the divider itself. The perpendiculat measurement between dividers is 35".
The 2+1 hs an exceptionally large slant stall because it is as wide as the ramp opening, which is 48".
Most manufacturers will custom build a trailer with a longer offset or more wall length between the dividers. The width at the wall between the dividers will be from 39" to 44"+ depending on the standards of the mfr. When we build living quarters trailers, we often add a foot of length to the horse area, divided among the stalls. Just a few inches makes a big difference.
I realize that this is confusing. I will be happy to talk to anyone who wants to PM me for a phone number.
Posted 2011-07-25 6:22 PM (#136082 - in reply to #135906) Subject: RE: 2 + 1 trailers
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Me and my wife are also intrigued by a 2+1 setup: let me explain my situation and let me know if it makes senseWe have an almost 18h shire and a 16.1 Appendix QH (it's a PMU...so that is out best guess) that would go in the straight part. We also have a 15.2 QH mare that we would put in the box (she has a coffin joint injury...so everything is a big if).The real question is can you put two small horse (halfingers or so)for kids in the box together? we are most likely going to have 2 kids in the next 3 years or so and don't really want to get another trailer in 7-8 years
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