Thanks so much to you guys who have given so much info on DIY living quarters. My husband and I are going to attempt it in my 4' short wall trailer. Can anyone post pics of their 4' short wall (or shorter) DIY living quarters or floor plans they used? I'm sure I'll be asking more questions, and maybe I'll be able to help a few people when we are done -- I hope more on what to do than what not to do;)

We have a 4' SW in our run around trailer.I had the conversion professionally done in MO last Feb.

Trailer ID/306290 has a 4 ft shortwall.  This is my friend's trailer and it is done well to use the space.  Also has a shower toilet and walk thru to horse area.  Pics aren't that good, but has cabinets with built in microwave and underneath is a small fridge.  Has the step thing to get into bed.  He decided he wanted a table and larger space so put this one on the lot and bought himself one with a 10 ft shortwall. 

Shoot, I can't see the pics you posted.

Thanks for the advice to look in the trailers for sale. I've done that, but I usually can't tell what the short wall is. Maybe I'm not searching correctly. I'll try again.

OK, it timed out on me...let me try again...

 This is a 4' shortwall Exiss that I did myself.

Here are some ideas about 4' short walls. Most have walk throughs,

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=294570

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=302973

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=303966

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=307154

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=307120

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=306209

Thanks, everyone. These are great, and I'm getting some really good ideas. I didn't realize that Todd's trailer is a 4' short wall until today. Amazing. I hope we can pull it off. I'm sure I'll have more questions soon, although I've been scouring this forum for weeks!

i'm NUTS about that backsplash, LindaY!! and where did you find pony wallpaper??

great job :)

Not to get too far off subject, but "brushycreekranch" what was a ballpark price for having your 4' installed professionally?  I always wanted to know about what it would cost for mine, but have never hauled it in to get an estimate.  I understand if you're not wanting to post your cost, just thought I'd ask.

Thanks

OK, here's what I came up with. I guessed a little as to the size of cabinets, benches, etc., but you get an idea. The living quarters area itself is to scale (or pretty close). (Obviously, I did not include the sleeping area or horse area.) Each square is a foot (square foot, I guess you'd say). I will use a bucket-type potty that I'll put in the horse area when camping, etc. I might add a cowboy shower to the horse area, too, from the closet area. (The red line in the closet area is a built-in stand for saddle racks, but I removed the racks -- don't need them.) I'll have RV or marine batteries and a Honda 2000i generator. Input welcome.

Not sure why my pics didn't show up. If anyone wants to see them, they can message me with an email address and I send them to you.

Jaas....it was $3500. but I bought the appliances seperate.  I was very pleased! The guy that did it use to be with one of the top conversion companies that closed down. So, he had alot of LQ experience. He has his own shop and specializes in custom cabinetry and does a few conversions. I dropped it off and picked it up about 2 weeks later.