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gaitedwasfated
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2009-11-17 1:39 PM (#113284)
Subject: Generator questions!


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If your trailer doesn't have a generator, and is not pre-wired for one, how big of a deal is it to put one in? What generator do you experts (meaning, those of you who have used them a lot) recommend? What things should we consider before running out and getting one? Right now, all I know is that I want one that's super quiet, but I'm sure there are a lot of other considerations. Thank you in advance for your advice!
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realitycheck
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2009-11-17 1:51 PM (#113285 - in reply to #113284)
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I have a Honda 3000. Nice and quiet.  I just have it in the back of my truck.  It probably isn't as handy as being able to start it from inside your LQ, but it works.  They also come with a remote start so you could put one in the hay rack.

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laurie
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2009-11-17 1:52 PM (#113286 - in reply to #113284)
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Mine is built in and that is the best way to go but if I needed to ad one I would check into the inverters??? I think thats what they are called. Very quiet but the ones I have seen are over 2K
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gaitedwasfated
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2009-11-17 2:33 PM (#113288 - in reply to #113285)
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So are you saying you don't necessarily need to wire one into the trailer for it to work? I can see I need to get edjicated on this asap!
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-11-17 2:38 PM (#113289 - in reply to #113284)
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I use one of these... Yamaha EF3000iSEB 

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outdoor/products/modelspecs/444/0/specs.aspx

Haul it in the bed of the truck... One generator, three trailers.

 



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cliffj59
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-11-17 3:11 PM (#113290 - in reply to #113284)
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 I use a Kipor ID3500

http://www.kipor.com/prouducts_rueal.asp?info_id=748

This way I just set it in the bed of the truck and plug my shore plug into it. It runs at about 80db which is pretty quite. It meets the requirements for the state parks around here in NC for the db level.

You cant run the microwave and the AC at the same time  but I can live with that.

Well when I got home last night and looked at what I had it wasnt what I

thought here is what I use.http://www.kipornorthamerica.com/Sinemaster3.aspx

and the db level is between 62 and 67. You can tell how much I look at my stuff.



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gaitedwasfated
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2009-11-17 3:21 PM (#113291 - in reply to #113290)
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What is a shore plug? Don't holler at me, people!

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horsecamper
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2009-11-17 3:41 PM (#113292 - in reply to #113284)
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gaited, The earlier poster is talking about the big electrical cord in the LQ trailers that you can plug into an electrical outlet in your barn or at a campground electrical.  If you have a portable, not built in generator, you can plug your trailer into the portable generator.
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-11-17 3:44 PM (#113293 - in reply to #113291)
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Originally written by gaitedwasfated on 2009-11-17 4:21 PM

What is a shore plug? Don't holler at me, people!

 

The plug/cable/cord that is attached to the trailer on one end and to a power source on the other. It's the flexible conduit that transfers electrical AC power to the trailer/RV. 

 

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gaitedwasfated
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2009-11-17 4:13 PM (#113295 - in reply to #113293)
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Thank you. So this is a beautiful thing - being able to carry the generator in the pickup and plug the trailer into it without having to mess with installing (i.e. wiring) the generator in the trailer.

And just so that I don't assume anything - do all LQ trailers have shore plugs?

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oklahoma horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2009-11-17 4:50 PM (#113297 - in reply to #113284)
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One thing to consider is weight of the generator. The Honda generators only weigh about 46 pounds and are very easy to start.

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lesliemal
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2009-11-17 5:01 PM (#113298 - in reply to #113284)
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The Honda generator's weight varies according to which size you get. I have a 2000 which weighs 46 lbs. The 3000 weighs considerably more. I decided to go with two 2000s connected together to get the wattage needed to run the AC. That way I can move the setup by myself. It costs a little more to go with this setup but I needed to be able to lift the generators by myself. You will need an adapter to plug your trailer directly into the generator as most generators do not have the RV plug type that your LQ will have.
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Gone
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2009-11-17 5:25 PM (#113299 - in reply to #113284)
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We have a 5000 watt Huskey which is pretty quiet aside from Honda and Onan and is less expensive. It has wheels but....we also have a ramp on the trailer. If you don't have a ramp, it takes two people to lift it.

Make sure you have a 30 amp adaptor plug. A smaller one will melt if you run the air.



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BlazingCreekBar
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2009-11-17 5:34 PM (#113300 - in reply to #113284)
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We have this one. A little lighter and runs the ac. http://www.wisesales.com/YamahaEF2400iS.html I have never kept it in the bed of the truck. Do you feel the vbration thru the LQ? I always chain to the nearest tree or axel. I know Rentento.. Chain saw and wheel marks. :-)

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horsecamper
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2009-11-17 5:49 PM (#113301 - in reply to #113284)
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Gaited, Yes, LQ's, unless they are very partial home made jobs, all have shore cords.  No way to get power without it. Check out a couple of LQ trailers on a lot. On the side of the trailer there will be a little locked door, about 6x8 inches.  Behind the door is a small compartment that houses the cord. As for portable generators, like Lesliemal, I have the Honda 2000 for the same reason, I need to be able to lift it.  At home, I move it around with a wheelbarrow.  In the horse trailer, it lives in the back tack under the bottom saddle rack.   The portables are great in that you can use them in the winter during the power outages.
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Spin Doctor
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2009-11-17 6:05 PM (#113303 - in reply to #113284)
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Surpised someone hasn't said it--NO MATTER WHERE YOU PUT IT, MAKE SURE IT IS VENTILATED AWAY FROM THE SLEEPING AREA! Every year, someone dies from carbon monoxide poisioning from a generator. I've heard this caused by being in the back of the PU, on the hay rack, in the managers, on the ground next to the trailer, etc. Also, I would never sleep in one without working monoxide detectors in the sleeping area!

We've done the Honda 3000 deal, both with a cord (in the PU box)and a remote start (carried in the rear tack) and a Onan in the manager. You get what you pay for. The Onan set up is best IMO. If you put it in the back of the PU, you run the risk of monoxide issues and also possibly being stolen. I've heard problems putting them in the hay rack with the fuel source down in the trailer as the fuel pumps fail due to the added lift needed.
No matter what way you chose, make sure the area is well ventilated, a ground is provided, and professional advice is warrentied.

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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2009-11-17 7:52 PM (#113311 - in reply to #113284)
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!st of all get a generator that runs at 50+ db.  Not at 80db as cliff said. 80 db is way loud.  ( every 5db the sound doubles)

the Hondas Generators are good. The 2000w is not powerful enough for most A/C unit. But it's quite, and only weighs around 45lbs.  So it's easy to move. The Honda 3000 has plenty of power but weighs 135lbs.  So it needs two people to move it.

I bought the Yamaha EF2400is. It has enough power to start and run most A/C and only weighs 72lbs. It runs at 53-55db in noise level. so pretty quite.

Both the Honda and the Yamaha offer invertor generators. A invertor generator produces cleaner power. You will want clean power if you run TV's, Laptop Computers, Microwaves, or Charge your cell phone. ( anything that has circuit boards inside).  Invertor generators cost more. The yamaha EF2400is that I bought, sells for around $1150-$1200  the Honda 3000 sells for $1995



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Spooler
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2009-11-17 9:06 PM (#113314 - in reply to #113284)
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It is every 3 db that the noise doubles, not 5.

 

Oh, and if you can afford it get the Onan installed and be done with it. Lugging the generator around stinks out loud.



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gaitedwasfated
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2009-11-17 9:15 PM (#113316 - in reply to #113284)
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I can't thank you guys enough. This is so helpful. I'd insert a hug icon in here but that would be corny.
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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2009-11-17 10:06 PM (#113317 - in reply to #113284)
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I have to agree with lesliemal about using two Honda eu2000's. I have the Honda eui3000 and wish I had the 2000's, but I got mine slightly used for $1,000 so I could not refuse the deal. I put half the wheel kit on so that it can be rolled on two wheels, mine is put in the back of my truck and I have locking cables holding in and against theft. I either use a ramp or the loader tractor to load or unload.

I may be mistaken, but if I remember my science class carbon monoxide is heavier and starts at the lowest point and works up. I would also think if the generator is outside the CO would dissipate before entering my trailer. Also most campgrounds in this area require generators be shut off @ 10:00 p.m.

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jim bob
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2009-11-18 9:39 AM (#113345 - in reply to #113284)
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 Outside your trailer is a great place to have a generator sitting and running; as long as it isn't under the neck of the trailer.  I recall a guy whom mounted a generator under the neck of his trailer, and it killed his wife and daughter; by the fumes all entering through the windows in the neck of the trailer.  This might be an extreme case; but it did happen.  Be careful where you choose to run your generator at.  If you leave it in the trailer; as previously mentioned, MAKE SURE IT HAS PLENTY OF VENTILATION. 

HONDA now makes a extra quiet 6500 on wheels, with electric start.  It will run everything on your LQ.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-11-18 10:19 AM (#113348 - in reply to #113284)
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Last year a thread was posted about a LQ trailer owner with a slide out. Apparently he had either a truck bed, or under goose, mounted generator. The weather seals of the slide out were loose, which allowed the CO to enter the LQ, setting off the detector. There were various discussions about re routing the generator's exhaust up and over the top of the trailer, to protect the occupants from CO poisoning.

Carbon monoxide readily mixes with air, making it easily dispersible. Because the exhaust gases are warm and warm air rises, the CO will rise as well. In the states in which I've lived, the motor vehicle codes, specifically prohibit any motor vehicles from passing inspection, with rust holes in the body floor areas. This prevents the possible intrusion of any leaking exhaust gasses, from rising into the passenger compartments.

If you check the instructions provided with the CO detectors, you will find they are commonly placed wherever smoke detectors are located; higher on the walls or ceiling, away from the junction of the wall and ceiling.

Any living space above or around a motor's exhaust should be protected from CO intrusion. The exhaust should be rerouted away from any doors, windows or any openings that would allow the CO to enter. Because the gas is accumulative in your blood system, a small amount over a period of time can be deadly. A slight breeze can carry the fumes many feet, so be careful about using a generator in proximity to any living space.

Gard

 

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Jaas
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2009-11-18 11:22 AM (#113354 - in reply to #113284)
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I have a Honda 3000EU.  I usually leave it in the bed of my truck.  There is a 30 amp outlet, and 2 regular 20 amps.  I usually use the 30 amp plug (with an adapter) to hook to my trailer.  I then hook a small contractors fan up to the other outlet.  I place the fan so that it blows all exhaust away from my trailer.  I have a CO detector in the trailer, and have never had a problem with or without the fan.  I like to use the fan just to make sure.
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Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2009-11-18 1:07 PM (#113358 - in reply to #113284)
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We have a portable generator in the back of the truck. You can buy a lock and cable and run it through the holes in the side of the bed. I bought a BBQ grill cover to go over it to protect it from rain. If we are camped primitive and just need to recharge the batteries or use the microwave we leave it where it is and crank it. If we are going to run it for extended time like for the AC or watching a movie we unhook and either unload it or pull away from the trailer so the exhaust is away from us. Our trailer has a hydraulic jack so unhooking isnt an issue. You can also usually jacknife the rig and unload the generator and then park straight if you dont want to unhook. We live about 20 miles from Josey Ranch and I used to barrel race. I remember when a mother and daughter were killed in their trailer at a clinic there because they set their generator in the back of the trailer. People need to really be aware how dangerous CO is and know how to take precautions to be safe. I am always preaching to the group I ride with about this. EVERY sleeping area, even a tent, needs a CO detector/alarm has CO from your neighbor can build up anywhere.
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Spin Doctor
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2009-11-18 1:49 PM (#113359 - in reply to #113284)
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One of the more tragic cases was in Houston at the Pro Rodeo a few years back. A generator on the hay rack killed several people in trailers next door!!
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