Long story here!

Better half is doing well in the Cowboy Mounted Shooting, was setting good with points to go to the World in ladies level 1. (in just about 3 months)  But now has won twice and moved up to a ladies level 2 and is 70 points short with 3 chances left.

Here is the deal, another person has ask to use our LQ trailer to take to the World Shoot to save them Hotel money.  I have tried not to be a complete a** about it, but how can I tell them NO so they can understand?  They have even gone as far as telling me the better half will not quailify for world since she still needs 70 points so she wouldn't make it any way.  What a jack a** and still ask me to use our trailer.  I told him I was sending her to the next 3 shoots no matter the cost just to prove them wrong!  If it was just a horse trailer for a day or 2 I might think about it, but we are talking about full blown LQ trailer and will be gone for 6 days!

Sorry to ramble on, just needed to vent and find out how to tell them NO!

HTB

Thank you, I will pass it along to her, she was not really looking to go to the World this year but we lucked out on a super little quarter horse mare that was my daughters barrel horse and it doing really well with shooting. 

I thought about it that way too, now that we have a NICE trailer we both like and agreed on. (that was a first!)  I even told the guy our insurance WOULD NOT cover it and he has offered to insure it now. 

Poor HTB ...

You're not the bad guy here... The persistant asker is.  Like Nancy Regan urged. "Just say No"

You can sugar coat the word with "I'd rather not let my trailer out of my driveway" 

  Tell him you subscribe to Ben Franklin's advice..."Neither a borrower nor a lender be"...PERIOD. 

  Like Raven, I don't loan something I couldn't afford to replace(which nowadays, is just about any and everything...retiree on fixed, modest (and FULLY taxable, unlike SS)survivor annuity speaking...). Actually, I NEVER loaned my horse trailer, nor did I ever even ASK someone to borrow theirs, as I try to never expect of others what I wouldn't expect of myself. 

Simplest is to be blunt..."I do not loan out my trailer"...end of discussion. If they get mad, well, that's THEIR problem. I find the behavior you've related to be brazenly RUDE, actually...and I wouldn't give such folks the time of day!

BTW, congrats to your wife on her accomplishments. I live just down the road from what is apparently the national HQ of the SASS, who moved into my area several years ago. I've not been out there, but hear it is a thriving endeavor.

Margo in NM 

Recently there was a discussion on another forum about similar circumstances to yours.

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=12321&posts=20

As you can see, most of the owners will not and do not, loan out their expensive equipment. Taken further, there have been postings about the rental of personal equipment. Again the consensus was, that your expensive equipment was in jeopardy of being damaged, and you would have little hope of recovery.

In the past when I was starting out and had older inexpensive trailers, I did loan my 2H BP trailer to two different individuals. It was a straight load, and I had recently lined the sidewalls with tongue and groove oak, and hadn't yet installed the side mats. It was returned to me with the sidewalls trashed, the metal center divider smashed beyond repair and the ramp badly dented outwards. My "friend" had used it to capture and transport some feral cows of his friend.

The second loan was to a different person who had a track TB that needed to be hauled for breeding. It was returned with a sliding side window kicked out, a butt bar ripped from the wall, and the safety chain loops bent so they would no longer fit my truck.

I loaned my tractor to a neighbour, who, when finished with it, left it in the drive in front of my barn. When I went to put it away, it wouldn't move in any gear. With some trouble shooting, I found it had a broken axle. The neighbour swears that it was "fine" when he left it off, so any problems had to be the result of me doing something wrong.

I will haul some horses for some of my friends, and am now an expert in replying with the short, sweet answer "NO", when asked if anyone can borrow my belongings. I can not and will not afford supplying equipment for other people. I will ask to do the job for them, and if that won't suffice, they'll have to ask another person. I have some close friends that readily abide by this practise, and others who are found not to be friends, when they act negatively with my refusal.

I have been criticised for being "lucky" to own my equipment. I am fortunate indeed, to be in this place at this time, through the efforts of my parents and my wonderful wife. There is no luck in the many hours we have spent labouring for these belongings, and the things we forgo in their accumulation. It wasn't luck, that we bought trailer wrecks, rebuilt them and sold them for better products. It wasn't luck that reasoned our first truck was kept for over twenty years, while our friends bought new vehicles every few years.

We ARE lucky and right now, haven't a problem saying "NO".

Gard

First, congratulations and best wishes to your wonderful wife for her accomplishments thus far and those to come.  Good for you in your loyal support of her !

The trailer belongs to y'all, and, if you are not using it, it should be available at the ready should you wish to use it.  You earned it, you maintain it, and you have every right to say, NO, NOPE, BETTER NOT, etc.  You don't even need to explain why, any friend would accept a simple , Nah, better not, at face value and go right on talking about the weather. 

To say, in effect, that you wouldn't need the trailer anyway because your wife has no chance to overcome the point spread, so you could loan them the trailer...........well, now, that's just no manners, and rather self-centered.  Don't think I'd feel the least bit bad about not loaning anything to someone with an attitude like that.

If they can afford to insure yours to borrow it, they can just take that money right down there and rent that motel.  That is what I would say, if I were in the mood to be kind about it. 

So go to the remaining shoots with a glad heart!!!!!

And forward this thread to the would be borrowers.

Thanks for your input and support.  It really means alot.  I emailed the link to this site so they could read it the thread for themself.

Let me add congratulations to your wife and good luck to her!!

I still can't believe people would even ASK to borrow something like a LQ trailer.  We worked long and hard for ours-- but even before we got it-- I had trailer envy believe me but if we couldn't afford to rent a cabin or whatever we didn't go.

I'm just shocked that people would keep asking after the first no

That is how I would look at it, but they are acting like my kids used to act, they keep asking and asking thinking the answer is going to change......NO NO NO!

what part of no are you not understanding!

I did tell them today they could use it for the price of $50,000 CASH up front and when they was done they could keep it! 

   No tippy toe'n here ...  I'll add that in an emergency... Sick horse, disabled truck, etc. My trailer or truck will be there.  I'll be driving, but it will be there.   Same with my tractor, backhoe, mower, welder, etc.  It'll be there but I or wife will be operating it.  I don't like to borrow equipment for the same reasons.  But life happens.  

HTB, your so called friends are only wanting a cheaper option.  If you let them take your trailer, you're not helping.  You're being abused.

They're about a thick-headed bunch,or else,think they'll eventually just wear you down and you'll give in.Would not take me long to get the message across.

No lie to get caught up in, my insurance company flat out told me that my trailer would NOT be covered with anyone else using it!  No lie, just pure facts!

Well, I think they got the point!

By the way, the better half placed 2nd today in level 2 and got 52 of the 76 points she needed!

So if the rain lets up she will be able to get the other 24 points this coming weekend in Hubbard!

Thank you all again, HTB