Posted 2009-08-19 6:00 PM (#109663) Subject: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Hello,I am considering hauling my horse (and possibly my husbands horse) from Dallas, TX to Amarillo, TX for a 6-day long clinic. It is almost 400 miles. I've never trailered my horses this distance. Can you all give me advice/tips?
Should I hang water in the trailer or offer it at stops? Should I unload the horses for at anytime during the journey (say at the half-way mark), or leave the horses on the trailer the entire time?
Posted 2009-08-19 6:12 PM (#109664 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Don't unload anyone until you get there. Hang hay bags, they act as a pacifier, keeps them ocupied, bring extra hay for refills. We don't offer grain, just oat hay. Offer water at fuel/bathroom stops. AND KEEP ROLLING!!! No sit down dinners until the horses are stalled at their new residence.
400 miles is not too far.... Maybe 8 hours or less. We haul 600-800 miles on a regular basis and have never had any trouble
Posted 2009-08-19 7:06 PM (#109666 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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We haul 8 hours into the Adirondack mountians, 6 hours up into Maine and with no issues, the kids come off and go for a short ride the same day. We do not put hay in the trailer until our mid point stop. Just something new I tried this year. I worry that they would just cram the hay and have no water for 8 hours. All worked out well. We always unload carefully I use shipping boots for the long hauls and take them off before I unload. I then allow a turn out and a roll with water and hay then we stretch them out on a light ride. Hope this helps.
Posted 2009-08-19 7:54 PM (#109668 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Since you will most likely be hauling in heat a good idea is to get them hydrated a few days before you leave. Many of the distance riders I know will add a little salt or some electrolyes to the feed a few days out to be sure the horses have been drinking plenty. Hay will actually help the gut to hold some moisture and keep working. If the horse is very comfortable in the trailer, they will finish it but often they will just eat a little at a time and sometimes not at all. Offer them water at each stop. Take water from home as they will be more likely to drink it. I don't like to haul over 8 hours myself but that's just because I don't like to sit in the truck much over 8-10 hours..LOL. You can feed a wet meal of beet pulp before you go if your horses are used to it. It's great to get them hydrated and it's good bulk to keep them pooping. Not necessarily a huge meal but something nice and wet. I think it's dangerous to unload the horses en-route for the most part and what happens if they decide they don't want to get back in!? Many recommend to stop about every 3 hours to give the horses a break. This works for me somewhat as I usually have to use the bathroom by that time anyhow. We make quick stops, especially if it's hot. The first time we hauled 7 hours we actually stayed overnight after 3 hours. Seems kind of silly now.
Posted 2009-08-19 10:28 PM (#109672 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Originally written by Dmarr on 2009-08-19 6:00 PM
Hello,I am considering hauling my horse (and possibly my husbands horse) from Dallas, TX to Amarillo, TX for a 6-day long clinic. It is almost 400 miles. I've never trailered my horses this distance. Can you all give me advice/tips?
Should I hang water in the trailer or offer it at stops? Should I unload the horses for at anytime during the journey (say at the half-way mark), or leave the horses on the trailer the entire time?
Thanks in advance for all your help and advice!!
Just my opinion, we haul that way in Oct. for the CMSA finals from Decatur and will stop in Wichita Falls and eat and find a place off of the main road with grass and take ours out and let them walk around and drink water for a few. But ours will get in and out anywhere we go with no issues. If your horses have never hauled that far and you are not sure about your loaded and unloading at unknown places, I would stop and offer them water and just let them stand in the trailer while stopped for a little bit. Traveling in this Texas heat is tuff on any horses.
Wichita Falls has plenty of good stopping places for trucks with trailers.
Would not hang water in the trailer while driving (big mess) I would make sure they have plenty of haY. Something else we have done this year in the heat is wet the hay down before you put it in the trailer, not soak it just damp it a little. HELPS!
Also we use "beet plup" a few days before the trip and while we are at any event. It is cheap and we mix a scoop and let water set in it over night.
The better half cuts up carrots and puts them in a zip lock bag with water and feeds on the way and on trail rides.
Get you a bag of shavings (coarse, not fine) for the floor of the trailer if you don't have them, helps with urine splater and smell.
Posted 2009-08-20 8:57 AM (#109676 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Hauling 400 miles is a short trip shouldn't take you more than 6 hours at the very most and all the horses need is hay. I graduated from college in may and I lived 10 hours from home to college. When I drove it w/ horses only time I stop is for fuel (but that is any trip for me stopping just makes a long trip longer). But horses will be fine in a trailer for a long time.
Posted 2009-08-20 9:30 AM (#109677 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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When I make that same trip, I stop for a short break in Witchita Falls like hogtown does. It isn't that bad of a drive at all. The roads are good thru there.
Posted 2009-08-20 9:44 AM (#109678 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Keep hay in front of them to keep them busy, offer water at stops but don't be surprised if they don't drink. If nothing else it will give you peace of mind you offered water at least. I wouldn't unload until you get there, especially if your horses aren't used to longer trips. They will be fine
Posted 2009-08-20 3:26 PM (#109699 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Hauling that far isn't any issues. I do not give horses hay when hauling because it makes them thirsty and they tend to not drink when being hauled. If it's hot you might give them electrolites the day before and plenty of water. Done 16 hours straight many times and they wouldn't ever drink water when offered. Too dangerous to load and unload in an uncontrolled area. Never had a horse that seemed stressed from hauling long distances. If I am hauling over 8 hours I do stop for 1/2 hour rests at dinner time with hay and water offered and untied to rest there neck.
Posted 2009-08-20 4:18 PM (#109703 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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I did a few long distance hauls in both mild and hot weather. My gelding is a trooper so i wasn't worried about him but I did have a water bucket in his stall but he didn't drink ( it mostly sloshed around). He also had some hay and munched a bit. I don't tie in the trailer which allows the horse to reach down for hay.I just made sure all the windows and vents were open.I had good bedding to allow for solid footing and to soak up urine. No wraps or blankets ( hot weather)I didn't stop anymore than I had to- Don't unload them. Just get to where you are going.
Posted 2009-08-20 6:43 PM (#109718 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Lets add another twist to this thread-- I'm going to be pulling 3 horses from Southern Montana up to Anchorage, Alaska. I'm guessing it will take about five days if I put in 8 hour days on the road. My trailer is a Hart stock trailer. What recommendation to you have for a trip like this where it will be several long days in the trailer for the horses.
Posted 2009-08-20 9:12 PM (#109740 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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I know when the dealers come up from FL to New England they haul striaght thru. The horses look tired but they recover in a day or so. You may need a rest day for rolling and streching at least twice I figure. If it were me I would plan a few good stops and stretch the trip out a few days.
Posted 2009-08-21 11:48 AM (#109776 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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everyting that every body has posted sound good I use to haul horse to florida for friends we would oil them up day before and just hay and water the whole way down they did fine
Posted 2009-08-21 2:34 PM (#109786 - in reply to #109718) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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I'd suggest longer days (much longer if you can find a tag team driver) making it a shorter overall trip.
Originally written by AQHA 123 on 2009-08-20 4:43 PM
Lets add another twist to this thread-- I'm going to be pulling 3 horses from Southern Montana up to Anchorage, Alaska. I'm guessing it will take about five days if I put in 8 hour days on the road. My trailer is a Hart stock trailer. What recommendation to you have for a trip like this where it will be several long days in the trailer for the horses.
Posted 2009-08-21 5:16 PM (#109793 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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We bought a Holsteiner mare and foal in New Mexico and had them shipped to PA. The shippers had an impressive rig, sport truck with sleeper; an open floor plan, fully insulated, air ride trailer with camera hooks ups, A/C and heat. The two horses were not tethered, and allowed to move about in an area equivalent to a smaller stall.
The drivers' only stops were for some meals, fuel, and a specific hands on look at the horses on a five to six hour basis. The horses had a constant supply of water and hay; straw bedding was up to their knees. They were stiff and sore after their long straight through trip, and with a couple days' rest, quickly settled into their new environment.
Those drivers said this was easier on the horses than multiple days of traveling with long breaks. That is, assuming they are healthy and not in distress. Spending more time in recovery before any activity is most beneficial.
Posted 2009-08-21 6:10 PM (#109798 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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I think thats what I'l do, drive as many hours a day as I can. My wife and I can take turns at the wheel and maybe do it in five days. I honestly don't know how long it takes to drive to Alaska,I always fly. The trailer is a new stock trailer with a weekend living quarters (thanks Gard!), so it should be comfortable enough if I put down a thick layer of shavings. I don't normally like shavings in there but on a long trip like that it will be a must.
Posted 2009-08-21 6:34 PM (#109800 - in reply to #109793) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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I agree with headhunter about making longer days and an overall shorter trip if possible.
With Gard's post, however, you need to take into consideration the difference in the rig. A large rig with a nice ride and open stalls isn't exactly equivalent to a smaller stock trailer in the ride the horses receive. Overall, I would imagine the horses would have less problem with a straight through trip in one of the big rigs where they can move around. We had one shipped here from Texas and we paid for a box stall for him since he was young and hadn't been hauled. He obviously seemed pretty comfortable as he ate a whole bunch of hay according to the hauler. He still eats a whole bunch of hay =)
Have a safe trip. One of the places I would like to go to ride is Alaska. I'm jealous...
Posted 2009-08-21 7:00 PM (#109802 - in reply to #109800) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Originally written by randemtam on 2009-08-21 6:34 PM
One of the places I would like to go to ride is Alaska. I'm jealous...
I will be up there seven more years so I've decided to bring the horses along with me, I'm tired of not being able to ride them for most of the year while I'm away for work. I look forward to getting involved in some clubs and shows and see what the state has to offer as far as riding goes. I always tie my horses while hauling them in a stock trailer, on a trip this long I wonder if I wouldn't be better of not tying them...
Posted 2009-08-21 7:15 PM (#109803 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Have you ever tried shredded paper for bedding? It has many advantages over sawdust and shavings; high rate of absorption and no dust, and many places can't give it away. It works great afterward in the garden and completely breaks down. Just a thought.
Have a safe trip and enjoyable stay. It sounds like quite an adventure. Take lots of bug spray.
Posted 2009-08-21 7:37 PM (#109804 - in reply to #109802) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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AQHA 123, I always tie my horses too but I tie them long enough so that they can lower their heads enough to clear their sinuses. I wouldn't have a problem with not tying them but they always manage to get into some sort of mischief if I don't. We hauled all 4 on one trip and they were back there just rocking around. Not enough to worry me, but I could feel them. When we stopped at the ag station I found that one had come untied and had managed to turn enough to irritate his neighbor. Tied him back up and the moving around ceased. I'm not sure how he came untied as it was a trailer tie with a panic snap on it. Go figure.
Posted 2009-08-21 8:23 PM (#109805 - in reply to #109663) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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I can sure feel my horse when they step around, some will step around a little, others will stand and not even move. I just returned from a horse buying trip to Utah where I bought two Hollywood Dun It horses. It was a long trip back home but the one horse I bought didn't hardly even move. He stood there like a champ the whole time. Another horse I have has to move around every 15 minutes just to remind me he's back there.
Posted 2009-08-21 8:46 PM (#109806 - in reply to #109793) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Sounds like the kind of hauler we'd all prefer to use with primo care of the horses as job one.
The more I learn the more I like the idea of not tying. But my big gelding would get stuck because he tries to turn around in the trailer and is too long. When loose horses seem to prefer facing backwards. Go figure!
Posted 2009-08-21 11:04 PM (#109809 - in reply to #109803) Subject: RE: Advice on Hauling Over 6 Hours?
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Originally written by gard on 2009-08-21 8:15 PM
Have you ever tried shredded paper for bedding? It has many advantages over sawdust and shavings; high rate of absorption and no dust, and many places can't give it away. It works great afterward in the garden and completely breaks down. Just a thought.
Have a safe trip and enjoyable stay. It sounds like quite an adventure. Take lots of bug spray.