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ProCue
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-08-04 11:26 AM (#108946)
Subject: Tires/Sensors


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Good morning!

I just purchased a 2 horse with LQ.  I am going to immediately replace the tires as they show some dry rotting.  I am considering Greenballs.  Any thoughts on those?

Also, thoughts on tire pressure sensors?

 

Thank you!!

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-08-04 12:12 PM (#108948 - in reply to #108946)
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Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2009-08-04 12:41 PM (#108951 - in reply to #108946)
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I agree with Retendo about the manual check and inspection. However, I love my Pressure Pro tire sensors. If you have a leak in a tire, the sensors may let you know before you have a blowout and save having to buy a new tire. I travel a lot of miles and switch them between my regular trailer, my LQ, and my utility trailer. They are relly nice "insurance". I know it has saved me 5 times in 2 years and paid for itself.
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ProCue
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-08-04 1:20 PM (#108952 - in reply to #108948)
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ProCue
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-08-04 1:23 PM (#108954 - in reply to #108948)
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They are made by B.F. Goodrich.  They are not a cheap tire at all. :)  Greenball specializes in trailer and off road equipment tires.

Trailer came out of factory with Marathons on it.

I check my tire pressures when I hook up and do a look over.  Just wondered about the added monitoring when I'm zipping down the interstate.

Thanks for the welcome.  I've been here a while, just never posted.

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ProCue
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-08-04 1:26 PM (#108956 - in reply to #108951)
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Great!  That's the kind of information I need.  I will be from KY to FL and back quite a bit with a really nice filly.  Just want to make sure we get there in good order.  I noticed on a diesel forum they were using the TTS sensor.  Have any comments on those?
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-08-04 1:52 PM (#108958 - in reply to #108954)
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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-08-04 2:33 PM (#108962 - in reply to #108948)
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I have to agree with everyone on the manual checks, but I'll have to disagree on the sensors. If you pay attention to them just like every other gauge, they will tell you when you have picked up something. When a tire loses 20psi over the stretch of two miles, you know you need to stop and check it...before I could get pulled off, it had lost 45psi...otherwise, I would have known about the time it started shaking and throwing tread and tearing up the fender.
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ProCue
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-08-04 3:18 PM (#108963 - in reply to #108958)
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ProCue
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-08-04 3:31 PM (#108964 - in reply to #108958)
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Um, you forgot part... and it's Goodyear.  I was wrong about B.F.Goodrich:

Supply Sources

From 1976 to 1993, Greenball Corporation sourced their tires through a single vendor. Cheng Shin Rubber Co. in Taiwan exported and exclusively manufactured Greenball tire designs. In 1993, Goodyear Tire and Rubber Inc. became a reliable domestic source. After 1994, Greenball has developed a stable of ten (10) supply sources to meet the evolving and growing needs of the company.

Greenball now sources different categories of products from different manufacturers, depending on the vendor's facilities and capabilities. Today, many tire industry experts agree that our Towmaster program is one of the few comprehensive and complete special tire programs available in the market place.

Have you ever used these tires?  I am curious, what is your affiliation with Goodyear?  You seem very knowledgeable about them.  The information I found was on diesel and RV forums.  As far as I can tell the only American made tires at this point are Cooper, Goodyear and Kelly Springfield.  I am aware of U.S. Rider and will decide on that later.  Just like anything else, I have heard good and bad with that.  Most of the horse show folks I know prefer OnStar - which is unfortunately NOT available on my truck.

The current Marathons on my trailer are showing dry rot.  They are 235-75-15s. GVR is not going to be accurate as it does not include LQ in that weight.

Gotta run before the next round of rain comes in.  Have a great night!

 

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ProCue
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-08-04 3:32 PM (#108965 - in reply to #108962)
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Tres, thank you for that information.  First hand knowledge shared is always the best! :)  Which one do you have?

 

(How do I keep getting blank posts appearing on here?)

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-08-04 3:56 PM (#108968 - in reply to #108946)
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-08-04 5:15 PM (#108971 - in reply to #108968)
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I am curious, what is your affiliation with Goodyear? None, other than the fact that Goodyear is the only Mfg. I've found that has a steel cased, load range G, 235/85-16 radial trailer tire that's rated at 3750# at 75 mph... I run these G614RST tires,

I'm afraid that people are finding out about you Retento. You won't be able to hide your affiliation much longer, so I'm going to spill the beans.

Unbeknowing to us, Retendo has been secretly working for the Goodyear company in the research and development department. He has been overtly developing new applications for the G RST line of tires. Because of his employment, he cannot be unbiased about this product.

So far he has initiated several product applications for the "G" rated tires. Among them are: wheels for his kitchen serving cart, his barn wheel barrows, tires for his saddle rack stands, and his personal chair. In the works are grocery cart wheels, airport baggage carts, and my favourite, new wheels for the lumber carts at Lowe's that never track well at all.

He has already tried and discarded wheels for tots, TV stands, mechanic's creepers and hovercraft dollies.

His pet project has been to equip the various golf carts used in retirement and gated communities. This is especially rewarding due to the number of lives he has saved. Most carts come equipped with the dreaded orange gum skins, that when pushed to their limits, peel off the rims and cause the carts to over turn. The  elderly closet racers, were constantly complaining about the numerous wrecks and poor quality. Retento to the rescue! Now that most of the racers have retrofitted their carts with the new tires, there has never been a wreck caused by a blow out, with a "G" rated Goodyear tire on a golf cart.

Gary should be applauded for his inspiration and conduct.  By developing these new applications, his efforts have benefited all of mankind. As an aside, and a personal note, with the newly installed tires, my grand mother was able to win her latest heat by over 23 seconds, in the door to store class for pink carts with modified surrey tops.

Thank you Retento!

BOL  Gard

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-08-04 5:31 PM (#108973 - in reply to #108946)
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Marla
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2009-08-04 8:37 PM (#108980 - in reply to #108946)
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Gard,
Your sense of humour is truly astounding! I enjoy every one of your essays. A good laugh is good for everyone.

Marla
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ProCue
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-08-05 11:46 AM (#109006 - in reply to #108968)
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If you have no first hand knowledge of these, then why not from the beginning just say, never used 'em, prefer Goodyear and here's why. I've had quite a few people say they will not use Goodyear on their trailers due to lack of durability. There was no need to be snide. I asked a legitimate question and need first hand knowledge answers. I read your previous posts prior to even posting this. I understand where your preference lies. But you've never said hey this is why (until today), just belittled anything not Goodyear. I do NOT have 16's on this trailer. They are 15's. I was told yesterday that in a 15, an ST tire was the way to go. If it was a 16, go with LT. This person explained why they had that opinion. I asked you a legit question about your affiliation with Goodyear thinking you may be a mechanic or a tire person. 

People come here to learn and share ideas.  Teach instead of just taking the I-said-so tactic.  If you have knowledge, share it without the condescending tone and explain it.  There is not need to belittle someone just because they question you, don't use the same equipment (i.e. sensors) as you or don't agree with you.  I certainly hope you won't use that side-of-the road comment for someone else in the future.  People have been robbed, injured or worse in those situations.  I hope your tires last you til the end of time and that you are NEVER stranded for any reason. 

To those of you that provided useful, first hand knowledge/information, THANK YOU!  I genuinely appreciate it.  Good luck to all and God bless.

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-08-05 12:15 PM (#109009 - in reply to #109006)
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Originally written by ProCue on 2009-08-05 12:46 PM

If you have no first hand knowledge of these, then why not from the beginning just say, never used 'em, prefer Goodyear and here's why. I've had quite a few people say they will not use Goodyear on their trailers due to lack of durability. There was no need to be snide. I asked a legitimate question and need first hand knowledge answers. I read your previous posts prior to even posting this. I understand where your preference lies. But you've never said hey this is why (until today), just belittled anything not Goodyear. I do NOT have 16's on this trailer. They are 15's. I was told yesterday that in a 15, an ST tire was the way to go. If it was a 16, go with LT. This person explained why they had that opinion. I asked you a legit question about your affiliation with Goodyear thinking you may be a mechanic or a tire person. 

People come here to learn and share ideas.  Teach instead of just taking the I-said-so tactic.  If you have knowledge, share it without the condescending tone and explain it.  There is not need to belittle someone just because they question you, don't use the same equipment (i.e. sensors) as you or don't agree with you.  I certainly hope you won't use that side-of-the road comment for someone else in the future.  People have been robbed, injured or worse in those situations.  I hope your tires last you til the end of time and that you are NEVER stranded for any reason. 

To those of you that provided useful, first hand knowledge/information, THANK YOU!  I genuinely appreciate it.  Good luck to all and God bless.

I got first hand knowledge, just got sense enough about me not to buy and depend on any sorry tires. Go ahead, don't believe anything I've try to tell you.... Ask anyone here.... I don't try to belittle anyone, nor do I try to lead anyone astray... Buy and use what you like. You trailer has "Marathons" on it now, why not go back with the same, they are probably the best "ST" tire on the market...You asked a question, I gave you my take on it. You don't like what I've said, then move on..... Do as you please.  Again, good luck with your trailer tire purchase...

 

 

 



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ProCue
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-08-05 12:34 PM (#109010 - in reply to #109009)
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WHY are they sorry tires?  Is it because they are not made in the U.S. or is there something in the design that is flawed?  Please explain.  You gave me your opinion of the brands but not the whys.  That's what I am and have been trying to get from you.  Why is Marathon the best of the ST tires?  Please explain.
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retento
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Posted 2009-08-05 1:34 PM (#109013 - in reply to #109010)
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Originally written by ProCue on 2009-08-05 1:34 PM

WHY are they sorry tires?  Is it because they are not made in the U.S. or is there something in the design that is flawed?  Please explain.  You gave me your opinion of the brands but not the whys.  That's what I am and have been trying to get from you.  Why is Marathon the best of the ST tires?  Please explain.

 

They are sorry tires IMHO, because.... Most of these tires built in Asia do not have the UV protection that the US built tires have... They will start to dry rot and crumble in a period of a couple years... Another example.. Some of the load range D tires may only have 3 plys of material rather than 5 to eight plys like a regular US built name brand tire... YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.. Good tires aren't cheap. Cheap tires aren't good.. . Some of the Goodyear Marathons are made in China... The difference being, they are built as per Goodyear specs, etc.. If I had a trailer with 15" wheels and I wanted an "ST" trailer tire, I would purchase the Goodyear Marathons and never look back.

Go up to the top of the page and type in the word TIRES in the seach feature... There's plenty to read, I don't have time  to write a book, it's already been done.... Google search Chinese tires...

As I said before, you don't have to believe anything I've tried to tell you... Better yet, if you feel that I have in anyway tried to trick, deceive, lie or belittle you, then report me to the Moderators... Mr. Trailer, Mr. Truck, txdad, and windy. big rectangular box on the top right of this page...

I'm done with the interrogation....

 

 



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DD_TrailerMan
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2009-08-05 2:32 PM (#109016 - in reply to #109013)
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Retento is from Rocky Mount, NC.  I have been there and there is no Goodyear tire plant.  Haha.  In addition, Retento is one of the most respected guys on here.  Double D uses Goodyear Marathons and I think they are from China, been using them for almost 3 years and no trouble. 

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-08-05 5:38 PM (#109023 - in reply to #108946)
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ProCue,

Not too long after I joined this forum, I had a catastrophic failure of my truck's front tire. It resulted in my rig jackknifing twice and almost rolling each time. The only reason my whole family didn't perish, is because somebody was looking after us.

At that time I had no knowledge that Firestone Steelex tires had been recalled for some Ford products, but not my truck. It had never been discussed in this forum, and I had no inkling there would be a problem. I was not privy to any knowledge of the impending accident. You on the other hand are given fair warning of what may happen when using the wrong tires. I wish to God that I had the same privilege.

Now that you are a member of this form, you have the advantage of receiving knowledge from people "who have been there and done that". There is a tremendous data base of information within this group, that has made it one of the most popular forums of its type on the Internet.

We are not all professional tire engineers, but we can tell you what works, what doesn't and what to avoid. This will be based on personal experiences, not spread sheets or news from a friend's best friend. Not too long ago, was a report of a rig blowing three tires during the same trip. Knowing what type of tires the driver was using is very important to anyone not wishing to duplicate the ordeal.

It would behoove a new member to browse the past threads using the search function. Not only will he learn a lot, but he will begin to see some patterns. Some posters have experiences in certain topics. Some are professionals and can get very technical with critical details. Some are everyday folks, trying to get along as easily and pleasurably as possible.

Your search will also show different personalities and styles. Some post long winded threads like me, others don't. Some beat around the bush, some don't.

When someone with a lot of experience tells you flat out not to do something, it would be wise to listen. Remember, he's been there, you haven't. Retento obviously knows more about the tires' issues than you or I do. His style is one of being to the point, never condescending and he tells it like it is, not what you may want to hear.

Before you jump some of the more experienced "Old timers" that have helped countless people and asked nothing in return for the favours, you should spend some more time browsing the previous threads. You may be able to determine the worth and character of the person you are about to unjustly assassinate.

Gard



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Posted 2009-08-05 5:38 PM (#109024 - in reply to #108946)
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sorry, duplicate thread



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gard
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Posted 2009-08-05 5:43 PM (#109025 - in reply to #108946)
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What the? Sorry again



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Posted 2009-08-06 12:23 AM (#109043 - in reply to #109016)
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Originally written by DD_TrailerMan on 2009-08-05 3:32 PM

Retento is from Rocky Mount, NC.  I have been there and there is no Goodyear tire plant.  Haha.  In addition, Retento is one of the most respected guys on here.  Double D uses Goodyear Marathons and I think they are from China, been using them for almost 3 years and no trouble. 

Bartley Heath
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Buy Factory Direct at DoubleDTrailers.com

 

 

retento discovered to be involved with Nascar Racing Tire program...

Unfortunately he appears to be near the bottom of the food chain...

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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-08-06 7:17 AM (#109047 - in reply to #108965)
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Originally written by ProCue on 2009-08-04 3:32 PM

Tres, thank you for that information.  First hand knowledge shared is always the best! :)  Which one do you have?

 

(How do I keep getting blank posts appearing on here?)

http://www.mrtrailer.com/pressurepro.htm Simple to use...like I said, I know it has saved me one blow out.

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