Posted 2009-04-27 6:56 PM (#104041) Subject: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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I have been shopping for a quality 3H LQ trailer (4Star, Elite, Platinum, etc.) and not really finding what I am looking for. When talking to reputable dealers and other trailer owners at the Midwest Horse Fair and the MN Horse Expo, they almost all seem to think I should go to a 10' SW and skip the 8' SW. I have a 2005 6'SW LQ, 7 wide that is just too small and was a perfect fit as a first LQ. So my question is this? How big of a difference will it feel to pull an additional 2 feet? (please don't say 2 feet worth )I also would like to hear from women who haul your own rig because your SO/hubby is non-horsey. Do you just adapt to the longer trailer? Do you wish you had less and not more? I do more weekends and long weekends and most of the time take a family member - my grown daughter or my mother. Looking forward to your input,Sue
Posted 2009-04-27 7:03 PM (#104043 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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Female hauling alone here!
The extra length of the trailer is an absolute non-issue. I went from a standard 3h/4' sw no LQ gooseneck to a 3h/midtack/9' shortwall trailer that is 36' end to end. Its alot heavier than the non LQ trailer was, but it doesn't take long to get used to the extra length.
I think the difference between the 8' and 10' LQ in many trailers is the size of the fridge and how much storage you get. If had to do it over again, I probably would have tried to find something with a 10' LQ and a full size fridge. I just have one of those under the counter fridges with an icebox. Not really convenient for long show weekends or long hauls. But that is my only complaint so I guess I didn't do too bad. I make up for less cabinets/closets in the main LQ by having a full midtack with lots of storage.
Posted 2009-04-27 7:21 PM (#104046 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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We both ride and haul, but I go by myself if he is busy. I'd get the 10' as mentioned above, for a 6.0 fridge and the extra storage and room for having an extra person and their stuff. You get used to the little extra length easily. Having enough truck to handle the weight uphill and stopping already, I imagine, you should just keep an eye on things as you usually do and enjoy!
Posted 2009-04-27 8:16 PM (#104053 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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I would go with the 10 ft SW. The extra length is not that big a deal. The biggest adjustment for me was pulling a trailer that was 8 ft wide. My husband says, "It goes where the truck goes" and he's right. We have a 4H with a 14 ft SW that is 8 ft wide. About 41 ft nose to tail. Pulling it is easy; backing it takes practice, but it can be done.
Posted 2009-04-27 8:28 PM (#104058 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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I would go with the longer LQ as well. 2 feet is not a huge amount. I just upgraded from an 18 foot to a 22 foot and that was a big change. I didn't figure I would really notice it but I sure did. Much more space was needed in the corners it seems. I will get use to it but those first few pulls were strange. Most of my pulling is up in the winding mountain dirt roads so that extra four feet was huge.
Posted 2009-04-27 9:13 PM (#104062 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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I haul a 15 foot shortwall LQ, 2-horse, 8 foot wide Elite alone most of the time. Just take corners slow and swing wide to avoid clipping the curb or other vehicles. Stopping a longer, heavier trailer takes more time so keep several car lengths between you and the vehicle you are following.
10 foot shortwall is plenty comfortable for 1-2 people and you'll have plenty of room for nice amenities like full size shower, fridge w/freezer and lots of storage cabinets. You can never have too much storage. I also have a dropped nose to make for more head room in the gooseneck bed. I'd also go with ducted a/c and heat in any trailer that is 10 foot or longer. Makes for even cooling/heating.
If it is in your budget, I'd get the horse compartment insulated. I noticed a big difference in heating the Elite with a insulated horse compartment versus my non-insulated one that I had before. Plus we use the horse compartment as a mud room and a place to store our riding clothes/jackets/shoes. So we keep a ceramic space heater in it and our clothes etc. are not frigid on cold mornings.
Posted 2009-04-27 11:10 PM (#104069 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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Originally written by CrazyAgain on 2009-04-27 6:56 PM
I have been shopping for a quality 3H LQ trailer (4Star, Elite, Platinum, etc.) and not really finding what I am looking for. When talking to reputable dealers and other trailer owners at the Midwest Horse Fair and the MN Horse Expo, they almost all seem to think I should go to a 10' SW and skip the 8' SW. I have a 2005 6'SW LQ, 7 wide that is just too small and was a perfect fit as a first LQ. So my question is this? How big of a difference will it feel to pull an additional 2 feet? (please don't say 2 feet worth )I also would like to hear from women who haul your own rig because your SO/hubby is non-horsey. Do you just adapt to the longer trailer? Do you wish you had less and not more? I do more weekends and long weekends and most of the time take a family member - my grown daughter or my mother. Looking forward to your input,Sue
Not really that much difference in price. Go with the 10'SW, 2 feet is nothing to worry about. Now if you was talking about going up to something like a 8' with a midtack or a 15'sw then you could worry about it. My better half hauls a lot by herself or with her girl friends and has never had any issues. But we had a Exiss SS413 that was 40' hitch to bumper that she pulled with no issues. (you should see the looks see got at the fuel stations, she is only 5'4" tall)
Bottom line is she said the 10'sw we have now is just PERFECT!
Posted 2009-04-27 11:30 PM (#104071 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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I found a 8 foot sw to be too long.Guess it depends on where you go.Logging roads and such.Even here at home it was hard to get around the barn and so on.It was to much trailer.The turning radius stunk.IF I buy another one I want a weekender with shower.Bed,store gear,shower.
Posted 2009-04-28 9:03 AM (#104086 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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When we shopped for a LQ, we settled on an 8' model. It had the 3 CF refig, dinette, and a modest but complete interior. By the time we had driven home from the show, we already had reservations about the size we had chosen. The next day we had definitely talked ourselves out of the trailer, and Monday morning we canceled the order.
We ended up buying a 13' LQ with a mid tack. With a couch it comfortably sleeps three, the size of our family. With a dual door 6 CF fridge, we can carry several days of cold produce. It's comfortable, and when it's set up, a pleasure to use.
It's also long. Too large for quick trips to the vets or a local ride at a friend's house, we frequently used our shorter stock combo trailer for running around errands.
I would recommend a 10' trailer as being comfortable for two or three people. I would rather have a less lavish bathroom and have more useable space in the living area. The larger fridge is a must, as is the most amount of cabinet storage and counter space. We use our cook top, but not our oven. The microwave and AC are must haves. A long awning is often used and welcomed.
If you will only have one trailer, a very long one will become an impediment. If you have to compromise, a 10' LQ is a good choice. My wife pulls both of our trailers with no problems. On the open roads you will not notice the additional length. It's only when parking, tight corners or crossing rough terrain, that you will notice the length differences. The change for you would be slight, far less than the switch from a BP to a goose neck trailer.
Posted 2009-04-28 9:50 AM (#104091 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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Thanks to you all for your quick responses. What a great site and group of members! You actually have just verified what I have been hearing for 2 weeks of talking about trailers with just about anyone who wanted to talk! :-)
I plan to proceed in my search of a new LQ and will keep you posted on my results!
The state trails in MN open on May 1st - Whahoo! It was a long off season this year!
Posted 2009-04-28 10:27 AM (#104094 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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Sue- We have a 10' LQ 3H. Went from a 4' 4H so the length really didn't change a lot. My recommendation would be to go with an 8' wide trailer. You can't believe the difference it makes in space. My wife and I can walk by each other, one can be sitting on the couch and the other can walk by without tripping on feet, and you can stretch you legs out in front of you too. The biggest thing is you just don't feel so cramped in.
The friends we were with at the MN Horse expo were trailer shopping so we looked at a lot of trailers with them. I think now is a good time to buy IF you can afford it. Seems like there were some pretty good deals available.
Posted 2009-04-28 10:37 AM (#104098 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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Update from my first reply,
Better half said the only thing that bother her was going to an 8' wide trailer. Some 3/4 ton trucks do not have extendable trailer tow mirrors and only have enough sticking out to see down a 7' wide trailer. But with extendable or larger trailer tow mirrors you should not have a probelm. Our older Ford and Dodge has standard mirrors and we can not see down the side of our 8' wide trailer, but our new Dodge has folding mirrors and she has no trouble at all.
Posted 2009-04-28 10:55 AM (#104100 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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If you don't want an 8 ft wide trailer, then consider a slide-out. It makes a world of difference in your living space and would add lots more room if you go with a smaller width trailer. I still prefer an 8ft wide with a slide, but only you know what you are comfortable towing. Good luck.
Posted 2009-04-28 11:10 AM (#104102 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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I went from a 7ft wide 18 feet on the floor gooseneck to an 8ft wide 21 feet on the floor gooseneck. My new horse trailer only has a 6ft LQ but I love it, but I am kinda a minimalist in packing. The size is nice for day trips to clinics and friends house and is fine for a weekend camping. If you have another smaller trailer at home, go for the 10ft sw. Try and think of all the driveways and places you are hauling to now when considering how long you want to go. It is a great time to shop, enjoy and good luck with your purchase. Oh, and as far as being a female driver, I just can't figure out how extra body parts would help in driving a longer trailer.
Posted 2009-04-28 12:50 PM (#104112 - in reply to #104108) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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Originally written by wyndancer on 2009-04-28 12:20 PM
Why anybody would think of something around a 10' sw in UNDER 8' wide is beyond me.
No tow mirrors on thr truck?...well, you are under mirrored for pulling any HT.
The GN trailers all have 102" outside width axles, whether 7' or 8' wide. The width of the box has no effect on cornering.
Sorry, let me make this simple for you!
On a truck with standard mirrors and a 7'wide trailer you can see down the side of the trialer. On a truck with standard mirrors and a 8' wide trailer you can see under the gooseneck while driving! Has nothing at all to do with the axles, what I am talking about is the main body of the trailer. (what most people/women look at while driving)
FYI, my 07 S&H 3 horse gooseneck trailer does not have 102" axles it has 96" axles, the Sooner we traded in had 96" axles as well....
Posted 2009-04-28 1:11 PM (#104113 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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We have a 3 horse, 9' shortwall with a 6.0 refrigerator and a full shower. Also has a kitchen sink and a bath sink. Box length is 23.5 feet. JAG conversions in OK City can design one for you.
Posted 2009-04-28 4:12 PM (#104127 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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I have met lots of folks camping and doing 4-H with the kids and I have never met anyone who regretted the 8- wide trailer. Usually folks say they like their trailer, but wishes they had gotten the 8-ft wide. Trailer follows the truck. Swing wide and use the mirrors.
Posted 2009-04-28 7:15 PM (#104139 - in reply to #104041) Subject: RE: LQ size - 8/9 ft or 10ft SW?
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I went from a 4 1/2 short wall with a 19 ft box 6.9 wide to a 8 1/2 to 9 foot short wall with a 22 ft box 8 wide. It did take a little time to get used to the 8 wide but it really was not that big of an issue. The mirrors on my 2002 F350 dually do pull out so I can "see" the whole side of the trailer (including wheels). I even got the bigger fridge in my 9 ft short wall. Apart from the structural quality of the trailer, having a full bath and full fridge were 2 of my requirements. The 8 wide with mangers is great for storing all the accrutements that go with camping. Having said all that, I do have a little 2H bumper pull for my "day" rides, so I only haul the big trailer for overnights.