Posted 2008-10-20 5:42 PM (#93299) Subject: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 1205 Location: Danielsville Georgia
Have a filly that I was taking to a colt starter/reining trainer and picking one up.Got there .Unloaded her and loaded him .Now she had been a little fussy on the road and had rocked the trailer some .Anyhow swapped horses .Stopped at a little roadside store that served food.Ate and went outside and from a distance it looked like something was on the roof of my almost NEW Exiss Cx300 trailer.What we found was a SHOCK.A HOLE punched through the roof! About 6x6.Big enough for your fist.The aluminum is THIN.Not much more then a coke can it seems.But punched a hole through the roof in the corner above the escape door between the braces.With her head.Trainer went back to his place and went over her head and found no hidden damage.This could have been bad.I have seen the insides of MANY trailers with dents in the roof but never heard of one splitting open.Now for the repair.Exiss wants to add another sheet of aluminum over the existing one with screws and sealer etc.
Posted 2008-10-20 6:11 PM (#93303 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 3802 Location: Rocky Mount N.C.
This sounds mighty familiar.... Someone was on here last year with an Exiss that had a hole appear in the roof above the horses head. Roof had torn away where the roof vent was installed. Hole looked big enough to poke a 50 count Tampa Nugget Cigar box through. I can't find the link or the pictures.... Must have been more than a year ago.
Posted 2008-10-20 7:42 PM (#93309 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 1283 Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey
That's pretty bad if there wasn't anything there to have weakened it. I have always said horses are on a path of destruction, it's up to us humans to try to prevent it. Sometime we win sometimes they do.
Posted 2008-10-20 9:07 PM (#93314 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 1205 Location: Danielsville Georgia
Yes. Mare was tied up front of course.Just thankful she didn't cut a ear off or damage herself.What a pain.Its not so big of deal fixing it as anyway its done I think will be noticeable if looked at.Its the pain in the rear to get it done.Time involved etc.Plus how do I know it won't happen again.My old 1995 CM Ranger had number of dents in the roof from the inside.It was a extra tall as this CX300 Event is.Sick and tired of horses and animals.I've lost my 13.5 year old goats,two old nans to a darn coyote in the past month and now my Chinese Gander is gone.Had him 8 years.Tired of this stewardship and being tied down to this mess.Got $100 plus worth of coyate traps set now.
Posted 2008-10-20 9:55 PM (#93317 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Not sticking up, nor pointing fingers, but the CX300 Houndog has is an Event. The HD model. It should have a .040 roof skin. Same as Bloomer, Sundowner, 4 star, Elite, and many more. If you hit it hard enough.... You just can't build a trailer sturdy enough to hold an idiot (or a horse with a bee in her bonnett) and yet still be towed with an average pick up truck. As HW alluded to- horses: Beautiful animals with a deathwish. Everything in life is a trade off. Is a trailer any different?? I am glad she wasn't hurt. That makes a bad deal even worse. But then again, your insurance should be settling to fix the trailer, not the manufacturer. Just my humble opinion.
Posted 2008-10-21 2:49 AM (#93322 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 1205 Location: Danielsville Georgia
Insurance my xxx.I think I was told it had a .032 roof.I'll check with Exiss again.Horses are gonna rear and cut up in trailers.This peeled and feels not much more then a coke can.I wonder about the rest of the roof and when it might happen again..MSRP of $17k and change! Yea right.You can buy brand new cars and BIG motorcycles for less then that.Cars with AC even.Someone is making a killing off a set of axels/Chinese tires and wheels plus a ton of pop rivits.I didn't pay that for it but still in the $teens I'd like to get done with horses.Got to haul one to get him on calves and roping in the morning.Hope he dosen't stick his head in the hole in the roof for some morning air.I still have to find a repair shop or? To work on it.Pain in the rear.They want to add another sheet of metal from right to left.Add more screws and sealer.Say's it won't leak.
Posted 2008-10-21 3:21 AM (#93323 - in reply to #93314) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 3802 Location: Rocky Mount N.C.
Originally written by hounddog on 2008-10-20 10:07 PM
Yes. Mare was tied up front of course.Just thankful she didn't cut a ear off or damage herself.What a pain.Its not so big of deal fixing it as anyway its done I think will be noticeable if looked at.Its the pain in the rear to get it done.Time involved etc.Plus how do I know it won't happen again.My old 1995 CM Ranger had number of dents in the roof from the inside.It was a extra tall as this CX300 Event is.Sick and tired of horses and animals.I've lost my 13.5 year old goats,two old nans to a darn coyote in the past month and now my Chinese Gander is gone.Had him 8 years.Tired of this stewardship and being tied down to this mess.Got $100 plus worth of coyate traps set now.
You need a bad ass Donkey, They will put a stop to the coyote/wild dog killing spree. Wish you lived closer, I'd bring you my 17yo jennet.... "Jenny", she'll take care of business. I think she lives, just to stomp a fox, dog, etc.
Posted 2008-10-21 6:41 AM (#93326 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 1205 Location: Danielsville Georgia
We hear more and more donkeys around the neighborhood but thats one more animal to care for if we got one.Han't help but think the cattle farmers(their little places around here are too sloppily run to call them ranchers) around here are losing calves,too.They say a cow will freshen but no calf shows up.Well???? We have what app eras to be ONE marauder doing the damage. Found tracks,scat and twice which way he came in.Have leg hold traps with scent and 12 snares set on the fence line.Still my big old gander is gone as of Sunday night it appears.
Posted 2008-10-21 8:58 AM (#93334 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 236 Location: Little town in Pa
Before you take that trailer down the road with a ripped roof be careful. My dressing room door which had aluminum skin on it had the aluminum skin pulled out of the frame just a tiny little bit from the tie back and probably someone hit the door while it was tied opened but the aluminum skin was just pulled out of the frame just alittle bit. Well I thought , no problem, jumped in the truck, drove down the road 5 miles, stopped for gas and the wind must have pick up that little piece of aluminum and ripped half of it off the door. I had a huge piece of aluminum hanging off the door when I stopped for gas. So if you have a little piece of aluminum hanging loose anywhere on your trailer, get it fixed, rip it off or tie it down befor you get on the road. Just my little scary experience I would thought I'd share with you.
Posted 2008-10-21 9:06 AM (#93335 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 1205 Location: Danielsville Georgia
Got to use it and it can't be out of commission long.I don't care if the whole roof peels off.I've got 25 head or so and need a trailer that works when I need it.Thats the reason I bought a NEW one of course.My 1995 CM Ranger took a beating and kept on ticking except for rust.I had horses blow up in it big time more then once with nary any damage that mattered.
Posted 2008-10-21 9:13 AM (#93337 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 5870 Location: western PA
The strength a frightened horse can have is amazing. Recently in another posting was the description of a horse that went down in a trailer. As the owner returned, he saw a hoof and leg that had penetrated the side wall, and was outside of the trailer.
Our stalls are built of 6 quarter, (1 1/2" thick) rough cut white and red oak boards. A cast horse demolished several of the bottom boards in a matter of minutes. When the boards were replaced and then additionally sheathed with 3/4" plywood, the same thing happened again. Other than a solid steel or concrete structure, I don't believe there is a bullet proof inclosure that will withstand an errant horse.
At a stud farm in Ireland, the stall side walls were concrete, and from your chest down, sloped inward at about a thirty degree angle to the floor. A horse standing at the point of where the floor and wall met, would be able to reach the wall with his nose, but not his feet or butt. If he fell against the wall, he would slide away from it towards the center of the stall. The result was very few injuries, especially important with expensive studs.
Horses can be some of the most destructive animals I've ever encountered. To contain them safely to themselves and others is a challenge that will endure for my lifetime.
Posted 2008-10-21 9:39 AM (#93338 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 1205 Location: Danielsville Georgia
I have seen a 9 horse stock trailer that the road broke away.Had 8 or 9 horses in it.Trailer hanging down and pulled the truck sideways to the edge.Horses went haywire at the sound of a human voice.Anyway that trailer was beat to pieces from the inside out.Nothing came loose or penetrated. Trailer was still in use 5 years or so later looking like a bad hail storm from inside out got it.My CM had a few in it that went to slamming with both rears and was only single walled .Only minor dents on the outside showing.Have big doubts that this aluminum trailer could take a fraction of such.
Posted 2008-10-21 9:42 AM (#93339 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 399 Location: Ottawa, Illinois 61350
We have had several different brands of trailers thru our shop that had roof damage from horses rearing in the trailer. The last one was a 4Star with a hole in the roof from a 6 month old colt rearing. A way to prevent this is to have the roof lined and insulated. You now have two layers of aluminum with insulation sandwiched between.
Posted 2008-10-21 10:51 AM (#93344 - in reply to #93335) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Originally written by hounddog on 2008-10-21 9:06 AM
Got to use it and it can't be out of commission long.I don't care if the whole roof peels off.I've got 25 head or so and need a trailer that works when I need it.Thats the reason I bought a NEW one of course.My 1995 CM Ranger took a beating and kept on ticking except for rust.I had horses blow up in it big time more then once with nary any damage that mattered.
From your comment about the rust,I assume that this particular trailer was steel?
"A way to prevent this is to have the roof lined and insulated. You now have two layers of aluminum with insulation sandwiched between." I believe this is an option on most trailers.
Posted 2008-10-21 12:10 PM (#93351 - in reply to #93347) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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We have had several steel trailers,still have a Wrangler 4H slant steel GN.My husband wants an aluminum sooner 4H GN,but,I'm happy with that steel trailer,myself,and it sure does pull good,plus,we got it at a good price and it's in good shape.We can keep it inside,so,no big deal about the rust to me.We once had a horse rear up and hit the top of a 2H steel trailer we had while loading him.It sure knocked the fire out of him,I could tell,but he was OK and so was the top of the trailer.After that,we'd put a bumper pad/head cap on him,but,he never reared up in that trailer again.
Posted 2008-10-21 1:03 PM (#93355 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 39 Location: Michigan
How awful. So glad the horse is ok
I have to say, I am NOT surprised it was an Exiss. Our Exiss sport was junk! I hated it, and was terrified to use it after I saw how easily everything fell apart. Not putting down your trailer, I just personally hate Exiss and will never ever own another one.
Posted 2008-10-21 3:25 PM (#93368 - in reply to #93299) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Posts: 1205 Location: Danielsville Georgia
How far back was your Exiss Sport? I did a lot of shopping before I bought.Exiss came out as good or better then others of the same sort.I'm still like WOW when I look at the hole and there are other dents from the inside out in the roof.It needs a liner inside the roof to spread impact if the aluminum is that thin and weak.
Posted 2008-10-21 7:50 PM (#93378 - in reply to #93355) Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
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Originally written by drafthorsejunkie on 2008-10-21 1:03 PM
How awful. So glad the horse is ok
I have to say, I am NOT surprised it was an Exiss. Our Exiss sport was junk! I hated it, and was terrified to use it after I saw how easily everything fell apart. Not putting down your trailer, I just personally hate Exiss and will never ever own another one.
Hounddog's particular trailer is NOT a Sport model,it is an Event.
Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
