'
1
Forums Albums Skins 1
Search Register Logon


You are logged in as a guest. Logon or register an account to access more features.
OTHER FORUMS:    Barrel Horses  -   Trucks   -   Cutting  -   Reining  -   Roping 
'
Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?

Jump to page : 1 2
Now viewing page 1 [25 messages per page]
Last activity 2008-09-23 7:16 PM
33 replies, 7137 views

View previous thread :: View next thread
   General Discussion -> Trailer Talk  Click to return to Barrel Talk
Refresh
Message format
 
arrestado
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-09-21 3:12 PM (#91840)
Subject: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Member


Posts: 48
25

I know this is an off the wall question.  I financed my LQ thru a finance company and I've had MANY problems.  I am at the point now that I need to begin writing the overseers of such companies, however cannot find anything on their website. 

Does anyone know how I would obtain this information?  I was told by my bank (who did not do the financing, I just called them in hopes of getting information) to check the companie's website, but there is no information.  I'm guess I'm looking for info similiar to the FCIC for a bank.

Who do I write to?  There must be some type of regulating committee/group/whatever so these people are held accountable.

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
rose
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2008-09-21 3:30 PM (#91841 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?




10005001002525
Location: KY
no, they are not regulated except for the truth in lending stuff. You can try your state's Dept of Consumer Affairs. Look on your state's website for information. Why didn't you borrow the money from your bank?
share Top of the page Bottom of the page
Rydbeck
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2008-09-21 7:02 PM (#91849 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Member


Posts: 20

Location: Weatherford, Tx
Rose is correct, who is your finance company? what sort of problems are you having? Your dealer if they are reputable may be able to help you out with some contact info.
share Top of the page Bottom of the page
arrestado
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-09-21 9:40 PM (#91853 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Member


Posts: 48
25

Thanks for the info.  I think I will begin by going through the department of consumer affairs.  It looks like that very well may cover it to some extent.  I will not name the company at this point, however I WILL post my entire saga after I obtain all of my money from them.  The trailer has since been re-financed, however I do feel others who may use the "problem" company should know of my trials with them.

I will contact them tomorrow and once I obtain all of my refunds, I should post the long story by the end of the week.

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-09-22 11:21 AM (#91874 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?



Expert


Posts: 1283
1000100100252525
Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey

I don't understand the need for regulation.

Did they tell you an intesrest rate?

Did they tell you the terms?

Did they tell you about any added cost of preparing the loan?

If the answer is "NO" to any of the above "RUN", don't walk away.

 

"The government is not the answer to your problems, the government is the problem" Ronald Regan

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-09-22 12:03 PM (#91879 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Expert


Posts: 5870
50005001001001002525
Location: western PA

Yep, they deregulated the banking industry. What's that going to cost us? One trillion plus? The big wigs and CEOs made out and we pay. They deregulated the airlines. How many have gone under and now they want gov bailouts? Yeah, lets deregulate everything and trust the people in charge, to take only a fair share and treat the consumers honestly.

Gard

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-09-22 1:21 PM (#91883 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?



Expert


Posts: 1283
1000100100252525
Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey
It takes a certain amount of sense to live and function in the USA, if you don't understand something then ask someone who does, it's not the fault of the seller if the buyer doesn't understand, it's also not the fault of the buyer if the seller doesn't understand. If I loan you $20, it's my responsability to know weather you are capable of paying it back, it's your responsability to understand that if you don't I am going to come and get whatever collateral you put up for the loan. Folks, it is really just that simple. That's all we need is more government involved in our life. They are real good a regulating things just look at Medicare/Medicaid. 

Edited by HWBar 2008-09-22 2:20 PM
share Top of the page Bottom of the page
Longrider
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-09-22 1:22 PM (#91884 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Extreme Veteran


Posts: 335
10010010025
Location: Decatur, Texas
And good old Ronnie REAGAN was the start of the deregulation.  And, to think, I actually voted for him.  Damn!!!!
share Top of the page Bottom of the page
HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-09-22 1:31 PM (#91885 - in reply to #91884)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?



Expert


Posts: 1283
1000100100252525
Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey

Originally written by Longrider on 2008-09-22 1:22 PM

And good old Ronnie REAGAN was the start of the deregulation.  And, to think, I actually voted for him.  Damn!!!!

 

 

 

Wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_Deregulation_Act

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-09-22 3:09 PM (#91886 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Expert


Posts: 5870
50005001001001002525
Location: western PA

Representative Phil Gramm was the author of our current financial deregulation activities, pushed forward by special interest groups to the Bush administration.

He is the same "advisor" to the MCCain election crew, who said that Americans were a bunch of whiners, and we weren't in as much of a fiscal problem as we thought. He subsequently was fired this summer, rather, "asked to resign" his position.

Gard



Edited by gard 2008-09-22 3:34 PM
share Top of the page Bottom of the page
Longrider
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-09-22 3:09 PM (#91887 - in reply to #91885)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Extreme Veteran


Posts: 335
10010010025
Location: Decatur, Texas
Okay, HW, I should have been more specific. Ronnie was the one who started deregulation in the banking and investment industry.  These are the institutions that have cratered that I was referring to.
share Top of the page Bottom of the page
Longrider
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-09-22 3:19 PM (#91889 - in reply to #91886)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Extreme Veteran


Posts: 335
10010010025
Location: Decatur, Texas
Originally written by gard on 2008-09-22 3:09 PM

Representative Phil Graham was the author of our current financial deregulation activities, pushed forward by special interest groups to the Bush administration.

Gard

You're right Gard.  The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Bill was attached as a "pork barreled" amendment to the budget bill in a late night session of the budget appropriations that went to Clinton for signature. Clinton either had to sign it or veto it and send it back to be hammered out with the federal government operating without funds appropriated which would take who knows how long to go through the house and senate again with debate. So, he signed it. And the deregulation bill was nicknamed "the Enron Loophole" as Phil Gramm's wife Wendy was on the board of directors for Enron. No conflicts there, huh?  And deregulation came to pass and all of the outlaws in Washington and Wall Street threw one huge non-stop party that finally stopped when greed met reality head-on.

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-09-22 3:24 PM (#91890 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?



Expert


Posts: 1283
1000100100252525
Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey

You two boys are drinking to much cool-aid.

“In the mid-1990s…[CRA regulation] allowed for the first time the securitization of CRA-regulated loans containing subprime mortgages. The changes came as radical ‘housing rights’ groups led by ACORN lobbied for such loans. ACORN at the time was represented by a young public-interest lawyer in Chicago by the name of Barack Obama.”

http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/080917/issues01.html?.v=1

 

Maybe we could regulate that these banks loan money to a horse, they are already forced to loan it to horses asses.



Edited by HWBar 2008-09-22 3:29 PM
share Top of the page Bottom of the page
gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-09-22 3:28 PM (#91891 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Expert


Posts: 5870
50005001001001002525
Location: western PA

Really enjoy the orange flavor .

Wrong about Gramm? Read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Gramm#Banking_deregulation_and_the_2008_mortgage_crisis



Edited by gard 2008-09-22 3:33 PM
share Top of the page Bottom of the page
HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-09-22 3:31 PM (#91892 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?



Expert


Posts: 1283
1000100100252525
Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey

As a preacher in Chicago once said "the chickens have come home to roost" 

It shouldn't take the mainstream media but a month or so to pick up on this story.



Edited by HWBar 2008-09-22 3:33 PM
share Top of the page Bottom of the page
HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-09-22 3:41 PM (#91894 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?



Expert


Posts: 1283
1000100100252525
Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey

Gramm's legisation deregulated the banking industry by allowing a bank to practice banking, insurance and brokerage activities. I and most others think it was the subprime loans that were regulated by San Fran Nan, and lobbied for by Barry Hussein Obama that have us in the mess we are in. But if you boys think otherwise, then you are entitled to you opinion.

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-09-22 3:51 PM (#91896 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Expert


Posts: 5870
50005001001001002525
Location: western PA
Yep, I do
share Top of the page Bottom of the page
farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2008-09-22 3:51 PM (#91897 - in reply to #91879)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Expert


Posts: 1723
1000500100100
Location: michigan

I must say gard for someone who come across as knowlegeable- you sure are dumb. here is some info and i'll leave it that this- democrats in congress as well as clinton set up what we now have in the financail markets by passing laws and regualtions that forced lenders to loan money to those who couldn't afford the mortgage OR those who would be termed "high risk" under normal banking practices. Remember liberals goning ape crap over the term red lining? That was the banks way to determine who wouldn't meet normal lending practices. Thanks to "affordable housing" liberals, anyone can afford a house,default on the morgage and get to keep it! The rest of the taxpayers are now bailing them out and paying the piper- as early as 2005, GOPer's and the Bush administration wanted to appoint outside regualators to audit fannie/freddy but Democrats in congress blocked that effort ( BTW two of Obamas economic advisors were foreced out of fannie/freddy for inflation profits and raking in millions)

This is factual- democrat policies are the direct cause of this scandal and guess what-they blame capitialism!Now they want BILLIONS to fix what they caused and they want complete oversight! Gads!!!!

 I have far more confidence in capitalism and the markets rather than goverment officals. This is a criminal attempt to take over a private sector of the economy by feds and it should be stopped.



Edited by farmbabe 2008-09-22 3:54 PM
share Top of the page Bottom of the page
gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-09-22 3:58 PM (#91898 - in reply to #91897)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Expert


Posts: 5870
50005001001001002525
Location: western PA
Originally written by farmbabe on 2008-09-22 4:51 PM

I must say gard for someone who come across as knowlegeable- you sure are dumb.

Thank you so much for your vote of confidence. Coming from someone of such unbiased and thoughtful information, I find it very comforting to disagree with you on many topics. Gard

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-09-22 4:01 PM (#91899 - in reply to #91896)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?



Expert


Posts: 1283
1000100100252525
Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey

Originally written by gard on 2008-09-22 3:51 PM

Yep, I do

 

 

Then Farmbabe is right about your wealth of knowledge

I've known it for months. Keep talking.

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2008-09-22 4:57 PM (#91906 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Expert


Posts: 1723
1000500100100
Location: michigan

Here is the difference gard- I can prove everything I said as totally and completely factual. It was and continues to be bad democratic policies enacted by the same people ( liberals) who say they can fix the problem. Please do more research than just being spoon fed by moveon.org.

 

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-09-22 6:06 PM (#91911 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?



Expert


Posts: 1283
1000100100252525
Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey

Liberals don't ever thnk that their ideas are wrong, they just think that they haven't forced their ideas upon enough people yet.

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2008-09-22 6:46 PM (#91917 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Expert


Posts: 1723
1000500100100
Location: michigan

OK i know this thread will get the freeze job real soon. The OP never did say what problems they had...unless i missed that part. if they think its a legal issue, I'd see an attorney. if you made your payments on time, in full, every month, then I am not sure what problems you might have had. Your obvious recourse would be to refinance some where else and rid yourself of a bad situation, whcih you did. Other posters had good info about you states attorneys office.

 

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-09-22 7:06 PM (#91921 - in reply to #91840)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?


Expert


Posts: 5870
50005001001001002525
Location: western PA

A few weeks ago, Paulson, Bush's republican fiscal czar, wouldn't even admit we had a serious financial problem. Now he's saying that the overwhelming problem he just discovered, must be fixed immediately, and he's just the person to effect the cure. Today, he's also saying that the executive CEO golden parachute payments must be maintained, and funded by the tax payers' bailout.

Lehman has off shore accounts holding 25 billion dollars. Most of the top executives of the failed institutions have pay compensations ranging from 20 to 70 million dollars annually.

The same people who created these problems, now believe that they are the only ones who can fix it by using our money. They also don't hold the executives accountable for their greed and poor choices, when operating for immediate profits. The failed institutions were some of the largest contributors to the RNP, and many lobbyists well represented their positions, with much favourable legislation being created.

Any label can be placed on anyone, and will do little to resolve the problem. It is a total failure of our leadership that has created this mess. Now we are being held accountable and have to pay for its actions. We do need change, not lip service and more of the same.

Gard

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-09-22 7:17 PM (#91924 - in reply to #91921)
Subject: RE: Who regulates horse trailer finance companies?



Expert


Posts: 1283
1000100100252525
Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey
Originally written by gard on 2008-09-22 7:06 PM

The failed institutions were some of the largest contributors to the RNP, and many lobbyists well represented their positions, with much favourable legislation being created.

Gard

 

 

Blather, Blather, Blather............Don't let the truth get in the way of your horseturds Gardy.........Maybe you should stop while your behind.

But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.

Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000.

Clinton, the 12th-ranked recipient of Fannie and Freddie PAC and employee contributions, has received more than $75,000 from the two enterprises and their employees. The private profit found its way back to the senators who killed the fix.

share Top of the page Bottom of the page
Jump to page : 1 2
Now viewing page 1 [25 messages per page]
Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version
E-mail a link to this thread
Message format
 

'
Registered to: Horse Trailer World
(Delete all cookies set by this site)