Posted 2006-08-08 2:58 PM (#46234) Subject: Fact or fiction?
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Posts: 26 Location: Alabama
I have a very tight turn to get into my driveway. You have to use the full turning ability of the goose to make the turn. I had a friend come over pulling her trailer & she was having a fit saying that if you turn too sharp that you'll pop the tire off the rim. Is that true?
Posted 2006-08-08 4:33 PM (#46236 - in reply to #46234) Subject: RE: Fact or fiction?
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Posts: 2453 Location: Northern Utah
First off. I expect that you have been making this turn for some time. Have you ever pop'd a tire off the rim? Use you own personal experience here and don't worry so much about the advice from others.
What's the damage if you do pop a tire off the rim? OK yes you might have to remove the tire and take it to a tire store and have them remount it on the rim. It's an inconvienence, but not a big cost. If you have a compressor you might fix the problem at home. We frequently knock tires off the rim on our skid loaders. A can of starter fluid, squirted inside the tire ( just a couple of squirts, Not the whole can), throw a match in and Pooof. The tire is remounted on the rim. Use the compressor to bring it to proper inflation.
I'd worry about damaging the tire if I knocked it off the rim more than a couple of times. As long as it has not happened yet, you are probably ok.
Posted 2006-08-08 6:35 PM (#46242 - in reply to #46234) Subject: RE: Fact or fiction?
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Originally written by afkatrina on 2006-08-08 2:58 PM
I have a very tight turn to get into my driveway. You have to use the full turning ability of the goose to make the turn. I had a friend come over pulling her trailer & she was having a fit saying that if you turn too sharp that you'll pop the tire off the rim. Is that true?
Thanks,
Brenda
I think that people to whom that has happened are few and far between.
People who know someone who has heard of someone who knew someone who was related to someone to whom it happened once - sure, 6 degrees and all that.
I put it down to urban legend and/or running VERY low pressure in their tires. It hasn't happened to me yet and I've done some pretty BAD tire squirming on hard surfaces as well as rough - but only when I've HAD TO.
Posted 2006-08-08 10:24 PM (#46249 - in reply to #46234) Subject: RE: Fact or fiction?
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I'll second Painted horse's thought:
"... First off. I expect that you have been making this turn for some time. Have you ever pop'd a tire off the rim? Use you own personal experience here and don't worry so much about the advice from others..."
I don't like his ether method of tire mounting though. It's too easy to catch a chunk of rubber or worse in the face. It will ruin the first day of the rest of your life
Now.. If you could do anything reasonable to you, to avoid such a sharp turn, do it. I'm thinking a section of culvert to widen the drive... Tires, bearings, axles, etc. are being stressed and rubbed the "wrong way".
Unloading the horses before turning will help too. Decide based on your circumstances.
Posted 2006-08-08 11:20 PM (#46250 - in reply to #46249) Subject: RE: Fact or fiction?
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Hosspuller, thanks for pointing out a ligitimate hazard. I didn't mean to represent that ether is the easy fix for remounting a tire. Ether should be a last ditch effort. Sometime on a job site, you just don't have the option of pulling a tire off and driving to a tire store.
The explosion of the ether reseats the bead of the tire.
Posted 2006-08-08 11:48 PM (#46251 - in reply to #46250) Subject: RE: Fact or fiction?
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The lower the tire presure the more likley it will happen.....So if you keep your tires properly inflated I doubt if it will ever happen to you. IMHO....
Posted 2006-08-09 8:24 AM (#46259 - in reply to #46234) Subject: RE: Fact or fiction?
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I have never seen a tire pop off the bead on a turn, all my goosenecks have been turned around in tight circles and no tire loss.Most tire problems are with low or no pressure.
I have also changed a lot of trailer tires on the tire machine and most tires are pretty well grown to the rim and are a bugger sometimes to get off.
I found if I can turn my truck around without or very little back up the trailer will follow.
Posted 2006-08-09 8:47 AM (#46263 - in reply to #46234) Subject: RE: Fact or fiction?
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Posts: 26 Location: Alabama
Thanks. I figured it was pretty unlikely. I just converted to a goose in May, so have only made the turn a dozen times or so. I got many warnings from friends when I got my trailer, but had not heard that one. My friend & I both drive short bed extended cabs, so our turning ability is not what a long bed would have either.
Don't worry... I won't be resetting any of my own tires!
Posted 2006-08-09 9:51 AM (#46277 - in reply to #46234) Subject: RE: Fact or fiction?
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I've seen 3 axle trailers pop tire off a rim. But you really have to jack knife them bad or be on soft ground to catch the tire edge. Have never seen a 2 axle pop tires off rim.
Posted 2006-08-11 8:28 AM (#46384 - in reply to #46363) Subject: RE: tongue in cheek . . .
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Oh I completely agree with you! Having a shortbed, I have to keep a close eye on the corner of my cab. It sneaks up real quick!
I had a friend who laughed when I bought it & said he guaranteed within 6 months I would either have a dent in my cab/front of my trailer or lose a tailgate. He almost put the dent in my cab the other day because he's used to a longbed truck!
Posted 2006-08-11 8:33 AM (#46385 - in reply to #46384) Subject: RE: tongue in cheek . . .
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With a short bed truck, you can't REALLY jack knife the trailer without hitting your cab. Don't worry about your tires coming off the rim. Plus, while I know it can happen to tires, it does take certain conditions, like turing a full circle in jack knife position instead of just making a left turn.