Posted 2006-02-13 6:16 AM (#37052) Subject: WERM Flooring?
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WERM flooring.... is it good, bad, or indifferent? How does it hold up? How does it hold up to pawing horses? Over time? Does it dent, groove, or pit where the horses usually stand? What are the pros and cons? In theory, it sounds great. But I also know that in practice things that sound great in theory don't always work out as they were intended. :-) Thanks for the input!
Posted 2006-02-13 6:54 AM (#37054 - in reply to #37052) Subject: WERM flooring
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My husband & I found the site on the WEB. It sounds good, as you say. We think it is too expensive however. I will be interested to see if others respond to your inquiry.
Posted 2006-02-13 7:14 AM (#37055 - in reply to #37052) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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I'm not familar with WERM florring, but my trailer has the rumber floor which is recycled rubber. Far superior to wood as it will last for many many years. My trailer is a '97 and has been used a lot and the floor looks great. Plus you don't need heavy mats that you have to pull out and clean underneath.
It is more expensive to put in at first, but since you don't have to replace it and it won't rot like wood floors it is much better. I hope someone does explain the WERM floor as I would like to know what it is.
Posted 2006-02-13 7:47 AM (#37061 - in reply to #37052) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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I currently have werm flooring and have had it for almost 3 years. I do like it because it makes trailer cleaning a breeze. It has held up very well but my one horsse who is a trailer pawer, has worn a slight depression in that stall. It is not even close to needing to be repaired though. Just trying to point out that it is not totally indestructible.
Posted 2006-02-13 8:33 AM (#37068 - in reply to #37061) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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That's my concern -- that repeated pawing could damage the flooring over the life of the trailer causing the need for repair. And then how is it repaired?? I don't currently have a pawer, but you never know. What kind of warranty typically comes with it? Boy, it sounds great though just to hose out the trailer rather than lugging those mats in and out! I see Mr. Truck has given it a good review, but I can't seem to get to the main website for WERM today.
Posted 2006-02-13 9:40 AM (#37073 - in reply to #37068) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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It is repaired by trowling in more material. Remember, mine is not near ready for repair, I can just see a slight worn spot. You get wear with mats too.
Posted 2006-02-13 10:48 AM (#37080 - in reply to #37073) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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<<You get wear with mats too. >>
Very true. :-) But this flooring is so much more expensive than mats, too. I don't know how much repairing these would be compared to buying a new mat. So you've been happy with yours? I like what I've read so far about them, just don't know how long they'll last and how they'll really hold up.
Posted 2006-02-13 11:25 AM (#37087 - in reply to #37052) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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I have a buddy with it in the back of a 4 Star he hauls those goofy walking horses and you can't even tell it's had horses in it. It's going on two years old now. If it will hold up to those bugeyed things it should hold up to anything.
Posted 2006-02-13 4:08 PM (#37123 - in reply to #37080) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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You don't have to replace the whole floor for a repair, just the area is patched. Would I get it again? Maybe, but I do have an Elite on order now and it won't have the werm. I acutally am considering duck taping the seams of the mats together so that urine won't seep thru. Maybe this will eliminate the need to pull mats to clean. Though I'd try it for one season and see if the floor underneath gets wet at all.
Posted 2006-02-16 12:04 PM (#37354 - in reply to #37052) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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We bought a new 4 horse C&M Norstar three year's ago and had WERM flooring put in. WERM added about $1,000 to the price of the trailer. We allowed ourselves one "bell's and whistles", hay rack or WERM flooring. We didn't want to mess with mat's, so we opted for the flooring. All we do is sweep the trailer as clean as possible (stiff bristle push broom from home supply store), and take it to the car wash. Done. The horse area get's cleaned out more with WERM than if we had to deal with mat's. We also have a 2 horse with mat's...no one want's to use it cause then you'd have clean it out and that's a chore.
We've hauled the C&M about 30 time's, with from one to four horses in it. We don't have a pawer, so we don't have any noticeable wear and tear. If it does become damaged, the damaged spot can be repaired with new product. The surface of WERM is pebbled, like an orange skin. The horses don't slip (we use pelleted bedding) and you can't slide a storage container on it.
I also want to add, WERM flooring is not thin. Not similar to truck bed liner. It is about 3/4 to 1 inch thick.
Posted 2006-02-16 12:26 PM (#37355 - in reply to #37354) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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THANK YOU for your input. I appreciate hearing from everyone about it, and haven;t heard a bad word about the WERM flooring. Very good to know it is pretty thick, too: I had visions of something along the lines of my truck bed liner. :-)
Posted 2006-02-16 1:55 PM (#37357 - in reply to #37355) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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Originally written by Tadofa on 2006-02-16 12:26 PM
THANK YOU for your input. I appreciate hearing from everyone about it, and haven;t heard a bad word about the WERM flooring. Very good to know it is pretty thick, too: I had visions of something along the lines of my truck bed liner. :-)
No, no it's thick. I'm sure that some people do think of it as similar to bed liner. A horse is going to have to do some high powered pawing to get through it. LOL
We are two women, who would be cleaning out the trailer. Neither of us wanted to get up close and personnel with stinky mat's. So when they showed us the WERM, we were all over it!
Posted 2006-02-16 3:22 PM (#37362 - in reply to #37052) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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The worry I seem to have is if the urine can get around the outside where the wall meets the floor. If it got under the WERM, wouldn't it really do a number on the floor since you cannot pull it up? How is it sealed around those edges?
Posted 2006-02-16 4:03 PM (#37365 - in reply to #37052) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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Well if you haven't figured it out yet WERM (we eliminate rubber mates) is exactually that and this product is that thick, roughly 3/4 to 1" thick. I looked into it a year ago but noone around central Iowa was at that time putting it in.
I still want to get the WERM does anyone know who does it close to Des Moines IA. (center of the state) area??? Closest I found was MPLS or KC area.
Posted 2006-02-18 1:53 PM (#37443 - in reply to #37052) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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We have had Werm flooring in both our gooseneck and pull type aluminum trailers. Don't like to spend that much money, but our big trailer floor was always wet underneath the rubber mat. (Bad on the aluminum and really hard to pull out the big, heavy rubber mats.) Since we had the flooring put in it bonded to the floor and is a breeze to keep clean. It's been in for 4 years and still looks good. Wouldn't have an aluminum trailer without it!
Posted 2006-02-18 6:15 PM (#37452 - in reply to #37362) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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Originally written by jwp2936 on 2006-02-16 3:22 PM
The worry I seem to have is if the urine can get around the outside where the wall meets the floor. If it got under the WERM, wouldn't it really do a number on the floor since you cannot pull it up? How is it sealed around those edges?
If you still have doubt's about WERM flooring, go to a dealership that offer's WERM and have a look.
Posted 2006-02-19 5:33 PM (#37506 - in reply to #37052) Subject: W ERM Flooring
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We found our info on the web. I believe there is a way from there to locate the dealer closest to you. We found out (by phone) there is someone considering becoming a dealer in Michigan. At any rate, there is a contact phone number on the web.
Posted 2006-02-20 8:24 PM (#37581 - in reply to #37456) Subject: RE: WERM Flooring?
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We put Werm flooring in out gooseneck about four years later. We had more trouble with condensation between the floor and mat than anything. Just couldn't keep it dry.Those big rubber mats are back killers. (This was before 4-Star was putting it in their trailers.) The 4-Star dealer gave us a place they recommended just a little south of Oklahoma City, OK. (Can't find the name of the place right now, sorry) We did a mini-vacation, drove there one day, they put it in the next day. We picked it up the next morning and headed back home. You can't put any horses on it for a week or two. The floor is cleaned with acid, then floor is trowled in like concrete (3/4 inch of black gooey stuff) and it bonds to the floor and sides of the trailer. Real pleased with the job. Needless to say our little two horse trailer had it in when we bought it!