Posted 2008-05-23 8:34 PM (#84581) Subject: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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In July, I will be taking my horses to Missouri for a week long riding vacation. I've done this for the past several years, but last year my horse got sick the day we headed home. She came down with the snots, and had equilibrium problems and was having balance issues in the trailer on the ride home. It was expensive to treat, and I don't want to deal with it again. I feel like I could have prevented her illness somehow. I'm not sure if it was stress induced or germ related. Is there some sort of immune booster or something I can give my horses prior to their trip? They're in good health and condition, but long trips are stressful no matter what. They're all current on vaccinations, and are used to going in the trailer and on shorter trips. The total trailering time is about 6 hours one way. I feel like I was so excited about going on the trip and getting there that I didn't do enough to prepare the horse, therefore causing her to be under stress and become sick.
On another subject, some people think electrolytes are overkill, my horses drink well, so are they necessary? The ones you add to the water are disgusting. Yes, I drank my horses water before giving it to her. I don't blame her for not liking it. If I should use electrolytes, what kind? Missouri in July is pretty hot.
I just want the trip to go smoothly. I'm getting in touch with my vet to get some bute and banamine to take along. A friend's horse had a nearly fatal episode of colic last year during the ride. I hope to God it never happens to one of my horses, but you never know.
Posted 2008-05-23 9:26 PM (#84584 - in reply to #84581) Subject: RE: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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Did she contract Rhino or Strangles? I would give her a booster shot now if it has been more than 6 months since her last vac. And yes electrolytes are a good idea. They are not only used to get a horse to drink, but for replacing sodium, potassium and chloride because these are the major ones lost in sweat during the summer. You can buy single does tubes from horse.com and give it to her like wormer paste. I feed wheat bran with grain and add the powder electrolytes to it and make a bran mash. They love it and the bran gives extra fiber.
Stress is normal for your horse, but if she is not used to traveling, day trips are beneficial in getting her used to new locations. Also stress is less if feeding the same grain, hay etc at the same time as at home. I also give my horses access to hay at all times while camping. Monitoring water intake is key to reducing colic episodes.
Probably the most important thing to remember is to make sure you exercise your horse frequently before the trip. That means start riding now to get her fit for the ride. Not sure where you are going in MO, but most likely where you are going is hilly and rocky.
Also locate a vet closest to where you will staying and contact them for emergency hours, number and whether they are familar with horses. Then call a few days before to see what vet will be on call. I always do this when traveling.
Posted 2008-05-23 9:31 PM (#84585 - in reply to #84581) Subject: RE: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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Its been a while since I read an article about this, but if memory serves, it recommended Vitamin E before and after a long trailer ride to prevent the "snots"...has anyone else heard this? I would also recommend electrolytes in the paste form, that way they do not put the horses off their water. i absolutely do think you should use them though. Also may want to look into using probiotics during your trip (stress can kill lots of the good bacteria in their gut) and maybe even the ulcer preventative stuff. Haven't used it myself but the more I hear about the prevalence of ulcers in "stressed" horses they more inclined I am to start. Have a fun vacation!
Posted 2008-05-24 5:28 AM (#84593 - in reply to #84581) Subject: RE: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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She didn't get strangles, she was vaccinated for that. Not sure if it was rhino or not. She just had big yellow nose goobers and looked like she felt rotten. Antibiotics fixed her right up, and were very expensive.
Posted 2008-05-24 8:08 PM (#84610 - in reply to #84581) Subject: RE: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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Your horse may have had what they call 'shipping fever' which is an upper respiratory infection. They supposedly can come down with this from short or long trips. When you travel, be sure your horse can lower its head enough to drain the sinuses when traveling and make sure there is sufficient air flow in the trailer. Electrolytes are great but only give them when you know your horse will be drinking. You can actually dehydrate your horse somewhat if you give them without sufficient water intake. I would suggest to give them when you arrive at your destination(s) if your horse does not drink very well when travelling, or give them the day before you travel so your horse will be very hydrated when you start. Many people have strong opinions about e-lytes and they vary quite a lot. Talk to your vet if you're not sure to get accurate information about lytes.
I understand what it is to haul in the heat. We hauled for several years from Florida to Pa and Vt in August.
Posted 2008-05-25 7:12 PM (#84641 - in reply to #84581) Subject: RE: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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Lately I've read that we all should be feeding our horses 1 Tbsp of table salt each day. The idea is that they don't automatically eat enough salt from the blocks, so I now feed it with their vitamin, senior feed. The best news: It's dirt cheap at Costco! Then you could feed one of the flavored electrolyte powders as an extra boost on your trip. It works for my horses, but all mine are piggies about their food.
Posted 2008-06-06 3:24 PM (#85306 - in reply to #84581) Subject: RE: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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I agree that all shots should be up to date, and I would add that having fans in the trailer area is wonderful for the horses. I do use electrolytes and I add Ulcer Gard to their feed if I think they will be under stress, but I also add Stress X for a day or so before anything stressful for my anxious mare. Good luck and have a good trip!
Posted 2008-06-06 3:48 PM (#85308 - in reply to #84581) Subject: RE: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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I use flavored Kool-Aid powder in the individual packages added to my horse's water to induce him to drink more prior and during a trip,then on arrival to get him to drink the "strange" water.It has always worked for me.
Posted 2008-06-06 11:45 PM (#85339 - in reply to #85338) Subject: RE: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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I was thinking about that tonight,and the fact that the Gatorade powder does have some electrolytes that the Kool Aid doesn't.The problem would be that the amount in it compared to the horse stuff would be minimal,I imagine,but,getting them to drink water period would be a good thing.
Posted 2008-06-19 1:48 PM (#86000 - in reply to #84581) Subject: RE: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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We do lots of camping and traveling with our horses (4) not to mention two 8 yr old girls. I have found that the electrolyte paste works great if you think they are getting dehydrated. Check a pulse or better yet check skin turgor (pinch up skin on their neck- it should go right back flat; if it stays puckered then they are dry). I have not had great luck with getting my guys to eat the lyte powder; they push it around in the bucket and leave it. I have heard of people adding a little water to it to make it stick to their feed to eat it also. I think someone should invent a alfalfa based pelleted electrolyte that you can add to the feed, but haven't found anything like that yet. I give all my horses a daily supplement/vitamin. I use Sho-Glo by MannaPro. I have used it for 2-3yrs and make sure I give it to them when we travel also. I don't know if this helps, but I have not had a dehydration or horse illness with traveling in the past 2 years. I check the buckets often while camping; carry a collapsed bucket in my saddle bags (in case the horse can't get to the creek, but you can), and I also carry a sponge to cool off my horses when we do have water on the trail. Most of all - RIDE before you go. I went to TN last July and knew other guests that had to leave early becaused their horses couldn't handle the terrain and were not in shape. Research where you are going and prepare accordingly. Also carry any horse meds just in case - bute, bannamine, injectables, lytes or anything you even think you may need (duct tape). The person that is NOT prepared is the one that always seems to have the sick or injured horse. Good Luck!
Posted 2008-06-19 6:16 PM (#86015 - in reply to #84593) Subject: RE: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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Originally written by Angelmay84 on 2008-05-24 5:28 AM
She didn't get strangles, she was vaccinated for that. Not sure if it was rhino or not. She just had big yellow nose goobers and looked like she felt rotten. Antibiotics fixed her right up, and were very expensive.
Amanda
Quite a few horses will exhibit those same symptoms after being shipped,hence the term "shipping fever" Vets usually say its a combination of stress,lowered immune system and congestion or kinda like a cold.
Posted 2008-06-19 7:45 PM (#86018 - in reply to #84581) Subject: RE: Preparing Horses for Vacation
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On a camping trip my horse looked like she might be tying up after a ride. After all the horse people came up with a million suggestions about what was happening, a lady that was not really into horses quietly came up to me and said she runs marathons and when she feels muscle cramps coming on from the running she drinks Gatorade and she feels better right away and the cramps go away. She had some of the powder in her motorhome, so she mixed it up almost like a paste in a paper bowl and my horse gulped it down instantly and wanted more. She mixed more water in on two more batches and again it was gone very quickly. I couldn't believe how fast my horses symptoms seemed to go away. I now always have powdered Gatorade in my tack room and any where I take my horse. It also works great to get her to drink when away from home. She LOVES it. Any flavor. I've tried the horse electrolytes and she won't touch them, so I figured why push it when the Gatorade does the same thing and has the electrolytes. I'm not saying it will cure tying-up, but after a long, hard or hot work-out or ride it sure gets her feeling better.