Posted 2008-04-23 10:59 AM (#82477 - in reply to #82467) Subject: RE: horse height
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Nicki I have the same "body image" issues with the horse I ride-I am 5'7 and 145 lbs.-the mare is 15.1 and 1100 lbs. but somehow I just still feel big on her. She has no problems carrying me though (very quickly at times!) and she is a good trail horse, careful where she puts her feet and I don't have to worry about getting smacked in the face by as many tree branches. Plus she doesn't require a "step ladder" to get on. I guess it really depends on how well you "click" with the horse and how good the horse is at what you plan to use it for. Maybe get some pictures or video of yourself riding the horse.
Posted 2008-04-23 12:26 PM (#82490 - in reply to #82467) Subject: RE: horse height
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I read an article in an issue of "Trail Rider" that said it is a misconception tall/big people should ride a tall horse. The build of a shorter / stockier horse is actually better for caring a bigger load. Of course you wouldn't want a 6' 5" - 300lb rider on a pony--- but the point of the article was that a smaller stockier horse, usually with a shorter spine, has more strength for carrying a bigger person. If I can find the article I will update this reply by adding the issue of the magazine.
Posted 2008-04-23 9:49 PM (#82523 - in reply to #82467) Subject: RE: horse height
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When we recently bought a trail horse, our requirements were the comfort of the rider and the physical abilities of the horse. We have tall show horses that look good in a ring, but are less competent on trails. The "new" horse barely makes 15h with shoes.
Looks are less important at the end of a satisfying day, than the best ride of your life. If you feel good on top, and your horse is doing everything you ask, size is of little importance. How you bond with your horse, and how happy you are with your ride, are the most important parts of ownership.
Posted 2008-04-24 8:57 AM (#82548 - in reply to #82467) Subject: RE: horse height
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Who cares what you look like out on the trails? Trail horses are the SUV's of the equine world, when was the last time you saw an SUV driven by someone that matched it's scale? You need to place comfort, mind, soundness and personality as tops on your list NOT SIZE! At the end of a long day with you rear in the saddle you'll find these things to be highly important...example high heels, look great but kill your feet, legs and back!
I always look for the length of leg once the rider is mounted and using properly adjusted tack, but showing is a completely different world! On the trail anything goes!
Posted 2008-04-24 9:50 AM (#82552 - in reply to #82467) Subject: RE: horse height
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Huntseat I agree-riding on the trail is a whole different world from the show ring-I too tend to go by the length of the rider's leg on the horse out of habit-of course I live in the land of the warmbloods and the 17 hand Quarterhorses (most with more TB than QH in them). Then I see those tall cowboys on shorter horses and they are out cutting cows without a problem. I guess its all in the perception and what you get used to seeing. What is truly important-like you said-esp. on the trail, is the match personality and experience-wise between horse and rider.
Posted 2008-04-28 9:19 PM (#82765 - in reply to #82548) Subject: RE: horse height
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I always look for the length of leg once the rider is mounted and using properly adjusted tack, but showing is a completely different world! On the trail anything goes!
I've never shown so maybe that's my problem, but what in the world are you talking about?
Posted 2008-04-29 8:21 AM (#82780 - in reply to #82467) Subject: RE: horse height
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I am 5'8" and weigh 165 or so, I am not fat, I am very athletic and my mare is only about 14.2 or 3. She is however a wide little thing. I dont feel too big on her at all and she has never had any trouble with carrying me. I also show her at local shows in all of the classes from games to barrels and poles and she loves to work cattle. My son though is about 5'11" and I think he does look too big on her, just because of his leg length, but he only is about 140 lbs. It is just personal choice and how your horse holds up.
Posted 2008-04-29 8:35 AM (#82781 - in reply to #82765) Subject: RE: horse height
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Terri, the length of leg reference is what scale the rider and horse give to each other. Two examples to put images in your mind.
1. Too much horse, too little rider: A lead line class, the little kids legs barely come down past the saddle pad, this is too little leg and it makes the horse look big and rider small. Really short women on huge horses can also look this way and make you wonder in the back of your mind if they aren't riding too much horse.
2. Too little horse, too much rider: Watching a youth class and having a really short horse under a girl that has hit her growth spurt gives you the idea that she's outgrown her pony...as you watch both her feet hang under the horses girth line. (Cutting horses and six foot men also do this often, yet in that arena the look is not important and does not ruin the scoring.) I always seem to think of the saturday night live clip with Chris Farley and the "fat man in a little coat."
You can also look at the seat of the saddle as a horizontal line, there shouldn't be more rider above the line than there is horse below the line. It should be far tilted the other way either.
The showing reference is because it's REALLY hard to judge a horse when all you see is rider...it detracts from the overall "picture."
Having said all this, the trails are an anything goes situation...you won't have to put up with someone's opinion (judge) because you aren't paying for it (entry fees)!
Posted 2008-04-29 11:25 PM (#82826 - in reply to #82467) Subject: RE: horse height
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I evented a 15.1 h Quarterhorse mare for a number of years up to Training Level (3'3" jumping on cross country) and im a 6' 160 lb guy. We may have looked a little missmatched, and my legs did hang down past her longest belly hairs, but we were a team and did quite well at a bunch of events (even finished second one time:D) I was kinda lucky in a sense to learn from her, b/c i weighed so much and she was smaller, it was so much more important to be balanced and help her everyway i could, especially jumping. Now that i;ve "moved up" so to speak to a larger (16.2h, but still a mare......) Im not prone to relying on her for balance. My little QH mare was a superstar, my big warmblood mare is a superstar too, size didnt matter, i guess within reason.
Posted 2008-04-30 11:47 PM (#82884 - in reply to #82467) Subject: RE: horse height
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I ride endurance on an Arab gelding who is 14.2 hands and maybe 1000 lbs. He carries himself much bigger and has that little big man syndrome - hahaha. I am 5' 7" and 160 lbs and do not feel big on him at all. He's stocky, not slender or fine boned. There is one rider who is a bigger girl, probably about 5'8" and 190 lbs and rides a horse that must weigh 200 lbs less than my guy - and she does look too big for her horse, but that horse is a finer build, slender and petite. So yes, I think it depends on the horse's build and your actual size. By the way, that bigger rider almost always finishes in the top 10 and I don't :)))
Posted 2008-05-01 12:14 AM (#82887 - in reply to #82526) Subject: RE: horse height
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Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2008-04-23 11:16 PM
We ride with a lady that rides a Belgian,I really don't see how she gets on her.I'd sure have to have MORE than a mounting block!
When I get on my 18.1 hand Percheron...I use a three step step ladder...
And if I happen to get off of him out some where away from the arena...I find the BIGGEST BOULDER and climb on from there...have been developing a GPS colection of mounting spots......or the back of a pickup truck if we happen to be near traffic...
Posted 2008-05-03 5:53 AM (#83033 - in reply to #82467) Subject: RE: horse height
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I am quite sure she is "big enough" for you - you aren't that heavy and she isn't THAT small. I think that the comfort issue might have more to do with your own perception of how you feel on her AND how your leg engages. I don't show alot either, but I will say that when you have alot of leg compared to the barrel (or very little leg compared to the barrel) it isn't quite as comfortable for proper cueing of the horse. Unless you are a long legged supermodel type, that is probably just fine too! I am a big gal of the undertall variety, and I ride a big horse (almost 16H). In many ways, I would much prefer to ride a horse 2 hands shorter (except he is perfert for me in so many ways I wouldn't trade him!), but our barn owner, who is also a show judge has commented that we look proportionate together. I think that is more in reference to what an earlier post mentioned about that balanced "look", which has nothing to with how well suited the horse is to packing your weight around. I would say you are just fine on this horse.
Posted 2008-05-03 1:25 PM (#83054 - in reply to #82467) Subject: RE: horse height
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I find it interesting that people find almost 16 hands a "big horse"
To me I think 16 hands is your average horse?,and find anything under that to be small.I guess I am just used to BIG warmbloods.Interesting thats all. I am 5'8 135 lbs and very leggy. My mare is 16 hands even ,and if I was to ride anything smaller I feel like I look silly,but again that is my perception.Not to say the horse couldn't carry me.