Posted 2007-04-08 9:18 PM (#58842 - in reply to #58364) Subject: RE: Why dually's
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I am amused with all of the banter regarding dually's and singles. IMO, they all will haul the same amount of weight and givin' the fact that most all trucks have the exact same brake systems irregardless if it is dual or not, to me means that they are exactly the same. Like others have stated, I'm sure that to some they handle somewhat better (live weight vs. dead weight) than single rear wheels, but from my own personal experience driving 25,000 lbs trailer behind both, I perfered not having the training wheels. Especially in the snow and rain. I have found that the traction in inclement weather is way better with single than dual's. One of the draw backs with the singles I do admit is that the tires, due to the larger weight, do wear out 10k to 15k sooner, but when it's a difference of 40k miles on 4 tires vs 50k miles on 6 tires, to me is not too much of an issue.
Posted 2007-04-08 10:37 PM (#58853 - in reply to #58364) Subject: RE: Why dually's
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If you are driving your single rear wheel truck with trailer please don't be anywhere near me. The ability to carry the load is why they have dual rear wheels. The pin weight on some LQ trailers can be very high. A single E load rating tire can't handle that much weight or you will be a max weight. Another thing is safety. If a single rear wheel truck has a blowout with a heavy LQ trialer it is not going to be good at all. They also make 3500 SRW and DRW. It still comes to the abiltiy of the tire to carry the load. 18 wheelers have dual's or a super single these days. That super single can carry the same load as dual setup.
Oh yeah, you can upgrade your single wheels to a 19.5 rim and tire that have more load rating. Just another point.
Posted 2007-04-09 6:48 AM (#58863 - in reply to #58851) Subject: RE: Why dually's
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Originally written by Reg on 2007-04-08 10:32 PM
Originally written by chadsalt on 2007-04-08 9:42 PM
Originally written by SLICKRNSNOT on 2007-04-08 8:22 PM
If you like single wheels go for it but how many big trucls and buses have only single rear wheels .....huh....huh....I rest my case.
do a little research on why big trucks use duals, then come on back with your "case".
Not all of them do, there are now some BIG and PHAT tractor tires that are essentially "double wide".
Almost 500mm IIRC, maybe more.
that was basically my point (remember my chosen profession). people are often under the impression big trucks use duals for "stability" or "capacity" or "safety"..........wrong. supersingles are avaliable, just havent been real popular.
Posted 2007-04-09 6:55 AM (#58864 - in reply to #58863) Subject: RE: Why dually's
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Originally written by chadsalt on 2007-04-09 6:48 AM
Originally written by Reg on 2007-04-08 10:32 PM
Originally written by chadsalt on 2007-04-08 9:42 PM
Originally written by SLICKRNSNOT on 2007-04-08 8:22 PM
If you like single wheels go for it but how many big trucls and buses have only single rear wheels .....huh....huh....I rest my case.
do a little research on why big trucks use duals, then come on back with your "case".
Not all of them do, there are now some BIG and PHAT tractor tires that are essentially "double wide".
Almost 500mm IIRC, maybe more.
that was basically my point (remember my chosen profession). people are often under the impression big trucks use duals for "stability" or "capacity" or "safety"..........wrong. supersingles are avaliable, just havent been real popular.
I suspect that there is still some inertial resistance to supersingles, though I don't know what the costs come out to with rim replacements and whatever else logistical problems there might be in a switchover.
Then there is the issue of getting a flat and HOPEFULLY being able to limp along on the "other" tire on that spindle - if there is one.
Yeah, likely to catch fire if it is FULLY loaded, but I think most tires exceed the axle ratings, so perhaps it just overheats ?
Posted 2007-04-11 5:35 PM (#59080 - in reply to #58844) Subject: RE: Why dually's
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Originally written by chadsalt on 2007-04-08 7:42 PM
Originally written by SLICKRNSNOT on 2007-04-08 8:22 PM
If you like single wheels go for it but how many big trucls and buses have only single rear wheels .....huh....huh....I rest my case.
do a little research on why big trucks use duals, then come on back with your "case".
Case of what?
At any rate did the original question get Answered? Heck just go down and get what you want and pull it with whatever you got and enjoy the heck out of it.You can get all kind of opinions here forget what your owners manual says,forget the load rating on the tires,single vs duall,they only put dualls on to get rid of all those extra tires anyway.
Case of beer? case of diarrea? or just in case it is all the same.Metric case ?
And then hwy tred or off road tred,White walls or black? paper or plastic?
Posted 2007-04-11 5:42 PM (#59081 - in reply to #59080) Subject: RE: Why dually's
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Originally written by SLICKRNSNOT on 2007-04-11 6:35 PM
Originally written by chadsalt on 2007-04-08 7:42 PM
Originally written by SLICKRNSNOT on 2007-04-08 8:22 PM
If you like single wheels go for it but how many big trucls and buses have only single rear wheels .....huh....huh....I rest my case.
do a little research on why big trucks use duals, then come on back with your "case".
Case of what?
At any rate did the original question get Answered? Heck just go down and get what you want and pull it with whatever you got and enjoy the heck out of it.You can get all kind of opinions here forget what your owners manual says,forget the load rating on the tires,single vs duall,they only put dualls on to get rid of all those extra tires anyway.
Case of beer? case of diarrea? or just in case it is all the same.Metric case ?
And then hwy tred or off road tred,White walls or black? paper or plastic?