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racesarabhorses
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2014-01-13 8:18 AM (#156867)
Subject: Tires - Again


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I am buying tires for my trailer...again...this time in prep to sell it (potentially).Unfortunately I don't have access to the trailer at this moment (it is across the state from me) but I was wondering what load range is appropriate for the trailer. Does anyone have weight rating information for the axles used on Silver Star gooseneck trailers from 2002? Mine is a 30' 3-horse slant load, with extended tack. I want to be sure I put on the right weight rating tire.I'm looking at these: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Power+King&tireMod... recall what axles were sold on these trailers when new... believe I upsized mine from the factory.Appreciate any info.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2014-01-13 9:19 AM (#156871 - in reply to #156867)
Subject: RE: Tires - Again


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I would install "E" load range tires on your trailer. If you plan on selling the trailer, Chinese tires will be a price advantage to you. If you plan on keeping the trailer, or enjoy pleasant relations with the new owner, these tires may not provide a long term benefit.
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-01-13 10:19 AM (#156875 - in reply to #156867)
Subject: RE: Tires - Again


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    Anyone you can call to go out and check the data plate on the trailer, then you'll know for sure??

     I got a 2001 Silver Star, Star Lite Supreme, model 2033MA similar to yours... It has 5500# axles with 8 lug hubs (gvwr 11000#). It came with LT235-85R/16 Uniroyal Laredo HD/H truck tires when it was new.. Got Michelin XPS-Rib's on it now. Not going to make very many friends using the Chinese built tires.... Go with a name brand load range "E", LT truck tire rather than the ST trailer tire....

 

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racesarabhorses
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2014-01-13 10:29 AM (#156876 - in reply to #156867)
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Appreciate the comments. Why light truck tire instead of trailer tire?
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-01-13 10:38 AM (#156877 - in reply to #156867)
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 One reason is because the LT tires are much safer... Most are speed rated to 100 mph or more, mose trailer tire are speed rated only to 65 mph. Against the law to run trailer tires on anything other than a trailer. You can run LT truck tires on a trailer, truck, car, wagon, tire swing, etc... Longevity is another thing, LT truck tire should be good for 6 or 7 years.

 Some trailer tire facts from a trailer tire mfg.  http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTrailerTireFacts.dos

Speed
  • All "ST" tires have a maximum speed rating of 65 mph.
  • As heat builds up, the tire's structure starts to disintegrate and weaken.
  • The load carrying capacity gradually decreases as the heat and stresses generated by higher speed increases.
Time
  • Time and the elements weaken a trailer tire.
  • In approximately three years, roughly one-third of the tire's strength is gone.
  • Three to five years is the projected life of a normal trailer tire.
  • It is suggested that trailer tires be replaced after three to four years of service regardless of tread depth or tire appearance.
Mileage
  • Trailer tires are not designed to wear out.
  • The life of a trailer tire is limited by time and duty cycles.
  • The mileage expectation of a trailer tire is 5,000 to 12,000 miles.

 



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racesarabhorses
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2014-01-13 11:00 AM (#156878 - in reply to #156867)
Subject: RE: Tires - Again


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OK, then. So what are some suggestions for LT tires on trailers used on the road mostly (with some grass/gravel offroad)?In the LT 235 85 R16 size.(And can anyone with a Silver Star confirm this is the correct size for this vintage gooseneck trailer...mine is locked up, across the state.)

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-01-13 12:18 PM (#156880 - in reply to #156867)
Subject: RE: Tires - Again


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What is the GAWR of your trailer?? Need to know that as well as the rim diameter... 15" 16" etc..

And can anyone with a Silver Star confirm this is the correct size for this vintage gooseneck trailer...

  Doesn't matter what everyone else has, they were not all the same.. Need to know what you got.. Do you have your registration and/or serial number, model number? Got a friend with a trailer like mine with 5200# axles and 7.50x16 bias truck tires.

    Done....

 

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racesarabhorses
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2014-01-13 3:58 PM (#156893 - in reply to #156867)
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Any problem with these?http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Road+Venture+APT+KL51&partnum=385SR6KL51&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yesI do worry about what has been said about sidewall strength, etc. when using light truck tires. But it appears as though trailer manufacturers are selling new trailers with light truck tires.Much beyond $150 and we're exceeding my budget. These are affordable. Just wonder if they'll do.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2014-01-13 10:42 PM (#156905 - in reply to #156867)
Subject: RE: Tires - Again


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Kumho tires are better than most Chinese brands and have a decent reputation in trucking and passenger applications.

RE: ST verses LT tires. There are various comments that the sidewall strengths of the LT tires are marginal for trailer usage. Has anyone heard of a properly aired LT side wall collapsing on a loaded truck? Has the stresses that are encountered during turns, whilst carrying heavy diesel motors, and part of the load factors, been considered in these comparisons? A trailer has at least two tires directly in a row on each side to provide stability, a truck only has one at each end of the vehicle, yet when is the last time a truck was unstable because of a sidewall issue?

A LT tire is superior to a ST, and an upgrade when installed onto a trailer.

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racesarabhorses
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2014-01-15 12:29 AM (#156926 - in reply to #156867)
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Sounds good. Only issue is I simply don't have a way to check load rating requirements of the trailer at this time. I'm inclined to believe the original tires on these non-living quarters gooseneck trailers are Load Range E, just wish someone could verify.

Unfortunately...Silver Star went under a number of years ago.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-01-15 4:24 AM (#156927 - in reply to #156867)
Subject: RE: Tires - Again


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Well here are a few models of Michelin tires to avoid... http://www.michelinman.com/voluntary-safety-recall.page
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