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grey_ghost
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2012-07-25 9:25 AM (#145821)
Subject: Trailer Brake Problem


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I accidentally pulled the pin on my emergency brake away control.  Re-inserted pin, trailer will haul fine.  But I now have no brakes on trailer.  All my lights work, so it is not in the plug.  Just not getting any "signal" to my trailer brakes to engage.  I feel it has something to do with the brake away control as my brakes worked fine until this pin got pulled.  I have hooked to 3 different trucks, all with same results.  This is a 1997 Featherlite 4horse GN with weekender package.  I am at a loss as to what to do next.  Is there a fuse somewhere that I am not finding to reset?  Checked trucks, all fuses are good.  Don't see any fuses on the battery to the break away brake box either.  What's next?   

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Paul D
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2012-07-25 11:56 AM (#145824 - in reply to #145821)
Subject: RE: Trailer Brake Problem


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Is it possible the break away battery was installed incorrectly? If so you probably burnt up the brake controller in the truck. Did you smell anything electrically burnt or hot in the truck cab? Try hooking the trailer up to a different truck and see if you have any trailer brakes.

Hope this helps, Paul

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grey_ghost
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2012-07-25 12:12 PM (#145826 - in reply to #145821)
Subject: RE: Trailer Brake Problem


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No, smell nothing burnt or hot.  Can hook truck to any other trailer and have brake.  Just not to this trailer.  The tester shows current going to the brake away box, so it cannot be that. Don't know if I just have a broken wire to my trailer brakes themself or what.  I'm at a loss.  Dude at garage wants to rewire my entire trailer as he says its not wired right.  I don't see why need to rewire entire trailer if everything works but the brakes.  Why not just fix the wire to the brake?  Ready to throw in the towel and just sell the damn trailer and go back to my little 3 horse w/o LQ.....
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horsepuller
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2012-07-25 5:03 PM (#145830 - in reply to #145821)
Subject: RE: Trailer Brake Problem



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I don't see how activating the breakaway switch would cause the trailer's brakes to stop working. I suggest you hook up the truck to the trailer without connecting the electrical plug, with the trailer wheels on grass or gravel, pull the breakaway switch, tow the trailer a few feet to see if the breakaway switch activates the brakes. (This is based on having your breakaway battery fully charged, of course.)

If the wheels lock up, this confirms that most of the brake wiring is OK. The problem then, is between the trailer's electrical plug and the splice where the breakaway positive output connects to the wire from the trailer's electrical connector to the wheel magnets.

If the wheels do not lock up, I would suggest that you check the splice connection mentioned in the prior paragraph.

I'd also suggest that you look at the trailer's electrical plug. The electrical brakes are usually powered by a blue wire. It could have come loose at the screw on connector.

Good luck.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-07-25 10:34 PM (#145846 - in reply to #145821)
Subject: RE: Trailer Brake Problem


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If your truck will not activate the brakes on three different trailers, the problem is most likely with the truck and not the trailer (s).

If you have a 7 pin RV type of truck plug, find the blue wire that is at the  5 o clock position. With a multi meter, put the red lead into that terminal. With the black lead, insert it into the terminal at the 7 o clock position. Apply your truck's brakes and check for about 13 volts.

If there is no indicated voltage, your controller is either inop or not receiving its voltage from the truck. If there is a lighted indicator light on the unit, it may suggest that it's receiving the voltage, but has an internal problem, and is not sending a sufficient supply to the brakes.

The B plus wire going to the controller, should be aprox 13.5 volts or more. If there is power to the controller and no power out, the controlller is bad. If there is no voltage to the controller, the truck's supply fuse is blown, and the controller won't work.

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2012-07-26 5:27 AM (#145847 - in reply to #145821)
Subject: RE: Trailer Brake Problem


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Probably something to do with the break away plug.... When the plug is pulled, the brakes are applied by the battery, which probably disconnects the blue wire from the truck, keeping the current from feeding back to the truck. When you plug the break away back into it's slot, something is not resetting and letting the truck brake current flow to the brakes themselves. The current flow to the brake battery is charge current, not trailer brake current.

 

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hornet
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2012-07-26 5:34 AM (#145848 - in reply to #145821)
Subject: RE: Trailer Brake Problem


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It sounds like the wire for the brakes on the trailer has been damaged. The break away switches connects the battery directly to the brake magnets with NO current limiting. So FULL power from the battery will be dumped into the magnets. If there is any part of the wire between the battery and the brakes that is under sized or weak from a rub or a poor splice, it can result in a burnt wire, terminating the brakes connection. Simple troubleshooting, start at the hitch and follow the wires all the way back for any damage, pay close attention to any splices and verify continuity of the connection. Another option would be to check the continuity of each brake and then just run new brake wire from the hitch back.
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hornet
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2012-07-26 5:37 AM (#145849 - in reply to #145848)
Subject: RE: Trailer Brake Problem


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All the break away switches I've seen on my trailers, do not disconnect the truck from the trailer. They simply tie the battery onto the brake wire. So voltage would be feed to the trailer and the truck if the switch was activated.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-07-26 8:21 AM (#145855 - in reply to #145821)
Subject: RE: Trailer Brake Problem


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I read it wrong, thinking you've tried three different trailers, not three different trucks.

I agree with the others, when the switch was pulled, a wiring problem developed, and perhaps the switch did not completely reset. It's a very simple electrical system on the trailer side, starting at the battery with its switch. In the wiring of our trailers, the red wire from the battery then goes directly to the brakes.

At the most, a new break away switch can be installed and a new power wire run to feed the brake assemblies. Parts wise, fairly inexpensive, labour wise an hour or so.

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