Posted 2011-02-18 9:58 AM (#130461 - in reply to #130425) Subject: RE: Whole bunch of Truck and Trailer questions.
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He has hired someone from KY to help with the farm design and some other things he is supposed to meet with them next week and wants me to go along (I have no idea why)
I asked him why he didnt just buy a exsiting farm in KY or FL and he said there he would just be another farm (he is a life long GA resident) says he is willing to forego breeding money (that was intresnting) to have farm in GA (he was left quite a bit of land)
as far as big horse vans go is select OK how about pegasus I found some neg info here on pegasus (but I liked that trailer) some outfit in Chicago also make them Fleet equine I have read I can add a small LQ to them as well any idea at what cost? is it worthwhile? are those type trailers too heavy for some of the single axle conversions I have seen ? (The ones he is jumping up and down for baby Petes and KW's)
I am considering advising him to get a tandem axle road tractor I have a found quite a few with decent miles in the mid-upper 30's and just get it dressed some to make him happy then all my weight worries would be addressed and he would save 40k over some of the schawalbe's I have seen (I have to admit I really do like that truck though) I got out of trucking in 05 so I have missed a lot of the ULSD issues I am hearing some trucks are having problems with it, that is a concern as well I dont want him to spend 100+k on a new 2008 truck and have it have trouble all the time (just love our goverment, sorry had to get in a litte dig there)
Anyway I guess I win 1st prize for looking busy when I am just really confused I just want to guide him the right direction he was supposed to be home yesterday but will not be here untill tuesday now I would like to show him some viable options by then
Thanks again for all of the help I have been blessed with here
Posted 2011-02-18 11:05 PM (#130488 - in reply to #130464) Subject: RE: Whole bunch of Truck and Trailer questions.
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Originally written by loveduffy on 2011-02-18 12:31 PM
could the real estate person in ky and ny show you and working farm and see how there are set up?
I dont think its a real estate person I think its a farm planner I am sorry I dont know the name of it I just told him I though he needed one and he agreed (whew) they are also going to help with hiring a farm manager (interveiws etc)
I guess we need to see a farm while we are up there, funny all the years on the road and all the horses races I have seen quite a few with him and Chris next to me I have never been on a real horse farm
Posted 2011-02-20 12:58 AM (#130520 - in reply to #130259) Subject: RE: Whole bunch of Truck and Trailer questions.
Location: KY
Towman1
You all might plan a road trip from GA coming north, stop at Waterfall Farms in Shelbyville TN and then come on to KY to check out the horse farms of the Bluegrass. Even tho Waterfall Farms is walking horses, it is a fine set up and well worth seeing. Then go to Lexington, the Ky Horse Park is a working horse farm. You can make appointments to see TB farms in and around Lexington. Do you get The BloodHorse magazine?
Posted 2011-02-20 10:47 AM (#130523 - in reply to #130520) Subject: RE: Whole bunch of Truck and Trailer questions.
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Originally written by rose on 2011-02-20 1:58 AM
Towman1
You all might plan a road trip from GA coming north, stop at Waterfall Farms in Shelbyville TN and then come on to KY to check out the horse farms of the Bluegrass. Even tho Waterfall Farms is walking horses, it is a fine set up and well worth seeing. Then go to Lexington, the Ky Horse Park is a working horse farm. You can make appointments to see TB farms in and around Lexington. Do you get The BloodHorse magazine?
Wow what a neat place! Thank you! and not far from us I will put that on the list!
Posted 2011-02-21 11:03 PM (#130581 - in reply to #130259) Subject: RE: Whole bunch of Truck and Trailer questions.
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If you go to the KY horse park you will need 2 days to see it all, it is worth going to and take the tour of the farm, go early so the heat is not to bad and you could see the horse out side I was there 2010 summer
Posted 2011-02-22 12:30 PM (#130594 - in reply to #130461) Subject: RE: Whole bunch of Truck and Trailer questions.
Location: Colorado
Originally written by Towman1 on 2011-02-18 9:58 AM
I am considering advising him to get a tandem axle road tractor I have a found quite a few with decent miles in the mid-upper 30's and just get it dressed some to make him happy then all my weight worries would be addressed and he would save 40k over some of the schawalbe's I have seen (I have to admit I really do like that truck though) I got out of trucking in 05 so I have missed a lot of the ULSD issues I am hearing some trucks are having problems with it, that is a concern as well I dont want him to spend 100+k on a new 2008 truck and have it have trouble all the time (just love our goverment, sorry had to get in a litte dig there)
Anyway I guess I win 1st prize for looking busy when I am just really confused I just want to guide him the right direction he was supposed to be home yesterday but will not be here untill tuesday now I would like to show him some viable options by then
Thanks again for all of the help I have been blessed with here
If you got out of trucking in 2005, then you missed most of the fun!(That was sarcasm, by the way!) The EGR systems(Detroit and Cummins) have had their hiccups, and Cat's two turbo system isn't overly popular, either! I wouldn't have a problem with either of those systems in the 2006 or 2007 model years- most of the bugs were worked out by then. Of course, engines built after 01-01-2007 have the DPF- another monkey wrench in the works! I personally am not a fan and would stay away from the DPF engines if I could. But wait! The hits just keep on coming- Jan 01, 2010- now, except for International's engines, you are looking at DEF(urea, or diesel emission fluid) technology also. Just too much fun! Good luck, and call me if I can be of any help.
Posted 2011-02-22 12:49 PM (#130595 - in reply to #130418) Subject: RE: Whole bunch of Truck and Trailer questions.
Location: Colorado
Originally written by CutAbove on 2011-02-17 9:46 AM
Originally written by windy on 2011-02-15 10:50 AM
What he buys for a power unit will depend to some extent on what size trailer he winds up with, and also I would take into consideration how many miles a year he will put on it. The medium duty hauler type trucks work well up to a point- but you are right- he can buy a heavy duty(single or tandem axle tractor) for much less.
Why is it that the heavy duty tractor is much less than the medium duty hauler type trucks?
I'm talking about used trucks- and most of it has to do with the availability and the marketplace. A medium duty truck set up right for hauling down the road, just isn't nearly as common as an over-the-road semi tractor. There are just more of the bigger trucks(semi's) out there to choose from. A lot of folks trade them in at 400,000 or 500,000 miles. Taken care of right, (and assuming they were spec'd right initially) most of those should be 800,000, 900,000, even million mile trucks. If a person hauling horses maybe 40 or 50,000 miles a year buys one of these with 500,000 miles on it, they should get quite a bit of use out of it. Just more bang for the buck, most of the time.
Posted 2011-02-22 4:00 PM (#130604 - in reply to #130595) Subject: RE: Whole bunch of Truck and Trailer questions.
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Originally written by windy on 2011-02-22 1:49 PM
Originally written by CutAbove on 2011-02-17 9:46 AM
Originally written by windy on 2011-02-15 10:50 AM
What he buys for a power unit will depend to some extent on what size trailer he winds up with, and also I would take into consideration how many miles a year he will put on it. The medium duty hauler type trucks work well up to a point- but you are right- he can buy a heavy duty(single or tandem axle tractor) for much less.
Why is it that the heavy duty tractor is much less than the medium duty hauler type trucks?
I'm talking about used trucks- and most of it has to do with the availability and the marketplace. A medium duty truck set up right for hauling down the road, just isn't nearly as common as an over-the-road semi tractor. There are just more of the bigger trucks(semi's) out there to choose from. A lot of folks trade them in at 400,000 or 500,000 miles. Taken care of right, (and assuming they were spec'd right initially) most of those should be 800,000, 900,000, even million mile trucks. If a person hauling horses maybe 40 or 50,000 miles a year buys one of these with 500,000 miles on it, they should get quite a bit of use out of it. Just more bang for the buck, most of the time.
Yes...used road tractors last another lifetime hauling horses...since a 15 horse semi-trailer loaded with horses still feels like an empty commodity trailer...
Posted 2011-03-01 6:19 PM (#130952 - in reply to #130259) Subject: RE: Whole bunch of Truck and Trailer questions.
Location: Central Arkansas
We had 4 Star custom build us a 4H that makes into 2 nice sized box stalls. We also have a finished weekend package for those last minute overnighters. TB folks LOVE ramps! Our 4 Star has a full back and a side ramp.The box stalls are great for mares & foals. 7'6" (to 8') height is also good. Hubby's 17H huntseat horse has plenty of room. This trailer can get into about anyplace we need to go, unlike the big Bloomer LQ that we also have. Every farm of any size will have a run around trailer that usually hauls at least 4 or 2 mares & foals. Most large TB farms ship commercially for a reason.
Flying H Farms still has track connections and would make a good resource for you.
Waterfall farms in TN is worth the time of checking out. They have done it right. I just love Dr Harry!
Y'all should do the Keeneland Farm tour to see different styles of TB farms. Ask what they would do differently.