Posted 2010-08-02 10:43 AM (#123093 - in reply to #123092) Subject: RE: injector additive for tow vehicle
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Phoresic, Some of the Ford guys will certainly chime in. Or, you can go to the Ford deisel forum. I have two Chevy deisels, a 6.5 and a Duramax. I run Lucas in mine, 8oz in every tank and change fuel filters every oil change in the Duramax and every other in the 6.5. I'm doing fine even with a 2001 Duramax. I started running Lucas on the recommendation of the truck shop guys where I get my repair work done. Most of the mechanics are Ford guys. I don't live where it gets really cold. If I did, I might run the stuff, can't remember its name, that comes in either a silver or red container depending on the temperature. It has the anti gel in it.
Posted 2010-08-02 12:00 PM (#123095 - in reply to #123092) Subject: RE: injector additive for tow vehicle
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Stanadyne diesel fuel additives are the only ones made by a fuel injection systems manufacturer that have been tested and approved by the major diesel engine and vehicle manufacturers.
On a personal note, I've used Stanadyne Performance Formula at the recommended 1:500 rate in a wide variety of diesel engines for many years with good results . . . and no, I do not have any connection with -- nor do I receive any remuneration from -- Stanadyne. I've just had good experiences with the product.
That is the other one I was trying to find. I used this in my new Dodge early this year and could not remember the name of it. A friend of mine give me a shot of it to check out.
I still would like to know why they need the treatment or cleaner. I would almost bet that they need some ssort of oil treatment deending on their service history. I have used a product called hot shots secret from Lubrication Specialties. Not only works for common-rail injected trucks but works on Powerstoke oil activated injectors as well. They have a wesite also www.lubricationspecialties.com.
Powerstroke trucks are bad about oil problems being the cause of injector issues or injector related issues.
Posted 2010-08-03 9:22 AM (#123129 - in reply to #123092) Subject: RE: injector additive for tow vehicle
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Hey Phoresic, I've still got my 2000 F-350, with the 7.3L, I use "Diesel Clean". You can get it @ Wally World. Comes in a light gray/silver plastic bottle. Works good for me, my brother is a Diesel Mechanic and he put me on it.
Posted 2010-08-03 9:45 AM (#123131 - in reply to #123129) Subject: RE: injector additive for tow vehicle
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Originally written by Ropncwby on 2010-08-03 9:22 AM
Hey Phoresic, I've still got my 2000 F-350, with the 7.3L, I use "Diesel Clean". You can get it @ Wally World. Comes in a light gray/silver plastic bottle. Works good for me, my brother is a Diesel Mechanic and he put me on it.
DIESEL CLEAN, ie: POWER SERVICE, white bottle for summer months, gray bottle for winter months. Works ok on the 7.3L but fair on the 6.0's. Something that works even better on the all 7.3's and 02 and older Dodges is 2cyl. engine oil or tranny fluid and much cheaper. The only downfall to tranny fluid is being RED.
Posted 2010-08-03 11:55 AM (#123135 - in reply to #123132) Subject: RE: injector additive for tow vehicle
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Originally written by gard on 2010-08-03 11:00 AM
Something that works even better on the all 7.3's and 02 and older Dodges is 2cyl. engine oil or tranny fluid and much cheaper.
I've had zero issues with my diesels using 2 stroke synthetic marine oil and "Sea Foam" during cold weather.
That 2 stroke synthetic marine oil should keep that fuel pump greased up real good. I run a dose of Lucas fuel injector cleaner through my 8.1 gasser every third tank or so.... May help the longevity of the fuel pump pumping all that dry gasoline. So far I figure the pump in the tank has pumped around 10,000 gallons of gasoline in the past 9 years.... !! That's about the same amount of money as what the truck cost new.... Now that's sad.
Posted 2010-08-09 12:12 AM (#123311 - in reply to #123092) Subject: RE: injector additive for tow vehicle
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Hey, I appreciate all of the responses and will go through them again. I read them once. I was out of town after I posted that question. Actually, drove my 6.0 with four people and a trailer for an approximately 3500 mile round trip in temps up to 107 degrees. Quick trip. It did a great job. It's comfortable, powerful and stable.
Why do I think it needs injector cleaner? Well, I thought it was recommended that the injectors be cleaned especially the hypersensitive injectors of the 6.0. Also, while it runs very smoothly most times, once in a while, I feel a bit of roughness in its running. A Ford dealer would dismiss it as insignificant, but there is a bit of roughness sometimes. The other two times that I "didn't hear that" lol, there was a problem, once an injector went out and once some injector-related part had gone out. I don't think an injector is going out, but I would like to make sure my fuel is clean and that the injectors are clean before it's bad enough for someone else to hear it.
Posted 2010-08-09 7:55 AM (#123318 - in reply to #123135) Subject: RE: injector additive for tow vehicle
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So far I figure the pump in the tank has pumped around 10,000 gallons of gasoline in the past 9 years....
It's pretty amazing, to think that a pump the size of a beverage container, buried deep inside a tank, can reliably pump that volume of material year after year
Posted 2010-08-09 9:26 AM (#123323 - in reply to #123318) Subject: RE: injector additive for tow vehicle
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Originally written by gard on 2010-08-09 8:55 AM
So far I figure the pump in the tank has pumped around 10,000 gallons of gasoline in the past 9 years....
It's pretty amazing, to think that a pump the size of a beverage container, buried deep inside a tank, can reliably pump that volume of material year after year
I think one thing that has also helped save the pump other than the Lucas is that I try never let the tank get below 1/4.... By keeping that 7-8 gallons when it's hot, there's enough fuel in the tank to keep the pump cool. Ever pulled the fuel cap off after a long heavy haul and felt how much heat escapes from the filler inlet, or seen a vapor cloud escape when you remove the cap. I know the Duramax Diesel truck have a fuel cooler between the frame rails to help keep tank temps down. Ford and Ram may do the same with their diesels. I know shortly after Cummins came out with their 24 valve 5.9 in 1998, they were cooking fuel pumps on a regular basis. Most folks that kept the tank topped off really never had any problems, heat was getting to the pumps and destroying them. I would imagine that a intank gasoline pump longevity is shortened by running the tank low, along with the heated return fuel and the heat that's generated by the in tank 12 volt electric fuel pump.
Hope my beverage container size pump holds out for another trip. It's going to have to pump approx. another 150 gallons later on this week...!! It's all "Lucased up" ready to roll!!
Posted 2010-08-09 9:59 AM (#123324 - in reply to #123322) Subject: RE: injector additive for tow vehicle
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Originally written by Phoresic on 2010-08-09 10:26 AM
How do you use the synthetic 2-cycle marine oil and transmission oil for additives?
I buy the 2 cycle oil in gal quantities and then transfer it to quart containers. Saves some $ and it's easier to carry and add while on trips. It isn't always available for purchase, so I take it with me. I use one quart of oil for one tank of fuel (40) gals. In my tractors I just guess and add some when I refuel. The Sea Foam is added the same way during the winter months.
Posted 2010-08-09 10:05 AM (#123325 - in reply to #123323) Subject: RE: injector additive for tow vehicle
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Most folks that kept the tank topped off really never had any problems, heat was getting to the pumps and destroying them. I would imagine that a intank gasoline pump longevity is shortened by running the tank low, along with the heated return fuel and the heat that's generated by the in tank 12 volt electric fuel pump.
Wish my wife would realize that
Hope my beverage container size pump holds out for another trip. It's going to have to pump approx. another 150 gallons later on this week...!! It's all "Lucased up" ready to roll!!
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