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Should this Invertor and Fan Setup Work?

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blackcows
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2010-05-26 12:18 PM (#120605)
Subject: Should this Invertor and Fan Setup Work?


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I bought a used trailer that had fans added to the horse compartment.  It is obvious it wasn't orginal to the trailer.  The guy that I purchased from said the fans never worked for him.  There were a couple of other things he said didn't work for him that I was able to fix quickly and this may also be an easy fix.   It is a three horse but only two fans.  I am able to run one fan with no problem, it ran for 7 hours on a trip this weekend and does seem to move some air.

The fans say the following:  120V, .5 amp, 60 watt.

There is a 400 Power Invertor that the fans plug into.  As I said one runs with no problem, as soon as the second it plugged in a red light comes on and both go out.  Should this setup work?  Would a bigger invertor help?

Mike

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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2010-05-26 12:26 PM (#120607 - in reply to #120605)
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Does the second fan run without the first fan being connected?
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blackcows
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2010-05-26 12:55 PM (#120608 - in reply to #120607)
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Originally written by hosspuller on 2010-05-26 12:26 PM

Does the second fan run without the first fan being connected?

Well Hoss of course that was the first thing I checked ;)....I will have to get back to you with the answer.

Mike

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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2010-05-26 11:00 PM (#120636 - in reply to #120605)
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a friend of mine use her fan all the time ( not in winter) and love them help keep the horse air moving
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blackcows
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2010-05-27 6:04 AM (#120639 - in reply to #120607)
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Originally written by hosspuller on 2010-05-26 12:26 PM

Does the second fan run without the first fan being connected?

Checked it out last night and each fan will run independantly but when both are connected the light on the invertor immediatly turns red and both go off.

 

Mike

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2010-05-27 7:30 AM (#120640 - in reply to #120639)
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Originally written by blackcows on 2010-05-27 7:04 AM

Originally written by hosspuller on 2010-05-26 12:26 PM

Does the second fan run without the first fan being connected?

Checked it out last night and each fan will run independantly but when both are connected the light on the invertor immediatly turns red and both go off.

 

Mike

How good are the batteries? Have they been load tested and recharged?

 

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blackcows
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2010-05-27 7:33 AM (#120641 - in reply to #120605)
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Batteries have a full charge according to the charger, I have never load tested them...I don't know how.

 

Mike

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2010-05-27 7:54 AM (#120643 - in reply to #120605)
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Your inverter isn't putting out enough capacity to run both fans. If it is, the amperage is being lost in poor wiring or connections.
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blackcows
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2010-05-27 7:59 AM (#120644 - in reply to #120605)
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What size invertor should it take to run both fans? 
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2010-05-27 8:19 AM (#120646 - in reply to #120605)
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By its stated capacity, your present 400W inverter should have enough capacity. What I'm saying, is that the wiring to both the fans and inverter are suspect of having too little capacity or poor connections. Both fans work, the inverter is working and has a higher capacity than you need.(120W)  But with a heavier load, the inverter becomes overloaded and defaults. If the wiring is proper, then the inverter itself may be in poor shape and may need to be replaced
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blackcows
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2010-05-27 8:32 AM (#120647 - in reply to #120605)
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The invertor looks kind of cheap and it makes a whine when it runs....maybe I should just try another one and see what happens.
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nobodyimportant
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2010-05-27 9:31 AM (#120648 - in reply to #120605)
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Probably should have done that right after checking both fans. Make sure taht when you buy the invertor that they won't charge you a restocking fee if you bring it back.
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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2010-05-27 12:50 PM (#120655 - in reply to #120647)
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Originally written by blackcows on 2010-05-27 5:32 AM

The invertor looks kind of cheap and it makes a whine when it runs....maybe I should just try another one and see what happens.

Blackcows... I believe you would be better served by changing the fans to 12 volt dc.  You avoid another inverter cost AND you get better use of the battery power.  The inverter is not 100% effective in converting battery power to 120 volt a/c. 

You're only going to run the fans while traveling ... ???

If you plug into a utility source and still need the fans, a battery charger can power than new dc fans,  While charging your battery for the trip home.

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dman
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2010-05-27 1:12 PM (#120656 - in reply to #120605)
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the start up amp load is considerably more than the run load is. if the invertor is rated to just cover the run load, it will not handle the start up of the 2nd fan. when replacing make sure you are oversized enough to handle start up. another option would be to install 12 volt fans like the old school buses had and forget the invertor.
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