Has anyone heard of giving paste wormers to older horses, say over 18; could lead to kidney disease/degeneration. Just wondering as I heard this from some horse people that have been raising and training horses for many,many years. Not sure I am buying into this, or my horse would be in pain or have other complications. Let me know if you have heard this from a vet. Thanks Dan
Posted 2009-12-12 5:09 PM (#114177 - in reply to #114166) Subject: RE: Paste wormers causing kidney problems
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Posts: 376 Location: Missouri
Let's put it another way. If you don't worm the horse, he is more likely to have major illnesses.
It really makes no difference if it's paste or otherwise. There are only so many acitive ingredients in wormers. It's more the active ingredient you need to look at and not the type of caring agent(ie, paste, oral liquid, etc)
Posted 2009-12-12 11:28 PM (#114185 - in reply to #114166) Subject: RE: Paste wormers causing kidney problems
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Currently I have 2 16 year olds and 1 20plus year old along with others and they all get paste wormers, either ivermectin or pyrantel pamoate. I also use moxidectin from time to time. I suspect any vet would tell you that the paste wormers are a great benefit to horses because they are inexpensive, easy to useand effective. Don't know why someone would tell you that the paste wormers cause kidney problems.....might want to take those people's advice with a grain of salt.
Posted 2009-12-13 8:20 AM (#114190 - in reply to #114166) Subject: RE: Paste wormers causing kidney problems
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Posts: 44 Location: Pineville Missouri
We worm every 8 weeks when we shoe horses. We rotate wormers and use name quality wormers. I have had no trouble to this point. Just find it odd, they must have had a horse develop problems and now apply it to all horses. Our Vet has never mentioned against using paste wormers. I am sure there have been issues with some horses. Dan
Posted 2009-12-14 9:16 AM (#114232 - in reply to #114166) Subject: RE: Paste wormers causing kidney problems
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Posts: 1723 Location: michigan
I doubt there have been that many problems( if any) with paste dewormers. Mostly, thats probably internet chat which isn't worth a dime. Some people associate on thing with another such as giving a dose of dewormer to a older horse and then said older horse developes kidney issues. Older horses are more likely to have health issues anyway plus there are many other factors to consider..nutrition plays a huge role as well as housing,environment and genetics. I wouldn't get too upset or worried about this.
Posted 2009-12-14 5:31 PM (#114264 - in reply to #114166) Subject: RE: Paste wormers causing kidney problems
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Posts: 44 Location: Pineville Missouri
I will just keep on doing what we do. I was just curiuos if this had been mentioned somewhere else. I think it is a bunch of BS, or there would be something in print. Later Dan
Posted 2009-12-15 8:59 AM (#114279 - in reply to #114166) Subject: RE: Paste wormers causing kidney problems
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Posts: 270 Location: Roanoke IL
As with any drug, there can be adverse reactions. My old horse (27) started having adverse reactions to being wormed....including the episode of founder that did him in. Ivermectin seems to be the one....and after having the problems I heard from several people that Ivermectin shouldn't be used on old horses. This particular animal had cushings, IR, and other problems. I wouldn't go so far as to say that wormers CAUSE kidney problems, but if you have a horse that has existing problems, the introduction of a chemical agent may be a tax on the systems...including the kidneys. They are a filter. Just a thought.
Don't stop worming horses on account of what someone said. Common sense would tell you that thousands of horses across the country are wormed with these products day to day and don't have any ill effects.
Paste wormers causing kidney problems
