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rimrockranch
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2009-11-14 11:23 PM (#113182)
Subject: Separate water tank


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Currently, I have a 25 gallon triangular water tank that fits behind the post in the rear tack of my slant load trailer. I love having enough water in the trailer for  weekend camping.  I've been looking at new/used trailers and it appears that a similar set-up would not work in some of them. Does anyone use the tanks that travel in the bed of your truck, either the half-moon or the one that is shaped to fit under the gooseneck? What do you like or dislike?
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HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2009-11-15 5:13 AM (#113184 - in reply to #113182)
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I have taken a 40 gallon rv tank, attached a 12V pump to the side of it(well nuts) and leave it in the truck, I have a traileR plug in the bed wired for 12v constant and just plug in there. Hook it to the city water hook-up on the trailer and ala water. Even makes it easy to fill because it's in your truck. When it's empty just remove and store in the barn.
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bloodtrail
Reg. Aug 2008
Posted 2009-11-15 7:26 AM (#113187 - in reply to #113182)
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When we dry camp in hot weather we use a 100 gallon poly tank behind the cab.  We use a 1/6hp sump pump to get water to the portable pen.  The pump also works great to get water to the Coleman Hot Water On Demand for a shower.  We also have a 25 gallon tank in the mid tack.  With 4 mules camping in hot water this supplies only about 3 days of camp time depending on whether water can be found on the trail.  We have '08 F250 SD, 8' bed.
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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2009-11-15 4:57 PM (#113201 - in reply to #113182)
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I've used the 25-30 gal tanks in the bed of my truck. I currently have a 35 gallon corner tank in my midtack 

I find that with 4 horses, 35 gallon is one day of water. So if I  know that I will be dry camping and need more than the mid tack tank, I will throw the tank in the truck bed and fill it. I've thought of buying another 30-40 gallon tank for the hay rack.  I kinda like the hay rack tanks, because they have plenty of pressure from the gravity. The tank in my mid tack , is  a little ackward to get to, the outlet is close to the floor. So I don't get near the pressure as I do from a roof mounted tank. Especially if I want to rinse off a sweaty horse. HWbar suggestion of an electric pump sounds great. I just haven't found the need yet.

I personally use the water out of the tanks for the horses and to clean up with. Wash dishes, wash hands etc. Any water I want to drink I bring as bottled water. I always fill the tanks with potable water, but it's difficult to completely empty the tanks. So I worry about any thing that might grow in the tanks between uses.

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hogtownboss
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2009-11-15 9:27 PM (#113208 - in reply to #113182)
Subject: RE: Separate water tank


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Originally written by rimrockranch on 2009-11-14 11:23 PM

Currently, I have a 25 gallon triangular water tank that fits behind the post in the rear tack of my slant load trailer. I love having enough water in the trailer for  weekend camping.  I've been looking at new/used trailers and it appears that a similar set-up would not work in some of them. Does anyone use the tanks that travel in the bed of your truck, either the half-moon or the one that is shaped to fit under the gooseneck? What do you like or dislike?

We have a neat 40 gallon tank in the mangers of our trailer with a small pump and hose to reach the water tub or even reach the main water tank on the trailer incase the LQ runs low.  Our trailer is 8' wide and this tank is mounted between the inside wall and wheelwell and fits flush with the top of the wheelwell, so we lost very little storage.

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CTRider
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2009-11-16 11:23 AM (#113227 - in reply to #113182)
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I use a 25 gallon tank in my rear tack. I do wish I had one that holds more, however I also have the dry camp kind that is a saddle rack. I sit this one in the bed of my truck. It holds 30 gallons. If we run out of water we can always unhook and run to town and refill this one. Plus my LQ has a 30 gallon fresh water tank.
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oklahoma horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2009-11-16 10:12 PM (#113259 - in reply to #113182)
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My trailer is total electric and only has a city water hook up. Can I put a barrel in my truck bed and then run a hose to the city water connection? Or will it still need a pump of some sorts? I was hoping gravity would help. I don't primitive camp but I would like to have an option in case I do go somewhere without water/hook ups.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-11-17 9:29 AM (#113276 - in reply to #113259)
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Originally written by oklahoma horse on 2009-11-16 11:12 PM

My trailer is total electric and only has a city water hook up. Can I put a barrel in my truck bed and then run a hose to the city water connection? Or will it still need a pump of some sorts? I was hoping gravity would help.

When coupled to an external supply, most RV water systems depend on the city water supply, for the pressure to operate the LQ appliances. Their built in water pumps are usually not plumbed to provide the necessary function or pressure, when the water is sourced from anything other than the built in tanks.

Gravity feed only provides one pound of pressure for about every couple feet of height. Many RV systems commonly use pressures up to 60 PSI. To have an equal head pressure with a gravity supply, would take a tank placed at a 139 ft. height.

I'm not sure by your description, if in fact, your LQ has a water pump or water tank installed. If not, a RV pressure pump could be added to your external tank to provide the necessary system pressure. If it does, a lower priced displacement pump, could be used to fill your present internal LQ tank from a truck mounted tank. You also may be able to gravity feed your LQ tank without a pump, if its maximum height is entirely below the truck's bed height.

If you have an internal pump and tank, the city water inlet line could also be re plumbed to directly feed the inlet line of your system water pump. This would enable you to gravity feed the city water port, and use the LQ pump for pressure. This would by pass your internal LQ water tank as a source, when two way valves are used. A couple of valves could be installed to redirect the external water source, depending on if a gravity tank or city supplied pressure was being used.

There are various ways to supply water for usage in a LQ. You have to first determine what equipment is presently installed in your LQ, before you can then decide on using alternative water supplies.

Gard

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oklahoma horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2009-11-17 4:46 PM (#113296 - in reply to #113182)
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No water storage tank...no water pump. Only a city water connection and a hot water tank. I usually only camp with hookups. But there are some places I would like to go that I would need to primitive camp. So would I need a pump to pump the water from the barrel to the water connection to have water pressure?

I also plan on buying a generator next year to solve the total electric issue. But I have to have water especially horse water.

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horsecamper
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2009-11-17 5:55 PM (#113302 - in reply to #113182)
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If you are concerned about sufficient horse water and if you have a hayrack, the 48 gallon half moon works well.  Like Painted Horse said, with that much height, there is enough pressure to get decent flow.

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oklahoma horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2009-11-17 6:34 PM (#113308 - in reply to #113182)
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No hay rack either.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-11-17 10:16 PM (#113318 - in reply to #113296)
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Originally written by oklahoma horse on 2009-11-17 5:46 PM

No water storage tank...no water pump. . So would I need a pump to pump the water from the barrel to the water connection to have water pressure?

"If not, a RV pressure pump could be added to your external tank to provide the necessary system pressure."

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oklahoma horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2009-11-18 7:06 PM (#113387 - in reply to #113182)
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Thanks Gard. I will look into it.
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mingiz
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2009-11-18 7:42 PM (#113389 - in reply to #113182)
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I have a 65gal farm tank it's round with legs. My first trailer only had city hookup so I added a flo jet pump onto the top of the tank and wired it into the battery box.Instant water.. Now I use it mainly for the horses or if my tank in the LQ  gets low when rough camping. I also attach a water hose to it so it reaches the horses and I don't have to tote water. My truck is a short bed so it takes up the front of the bed but has enough clearence for the gn.
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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-11-19 8:00 AM (#113404 - in reply to #113182)
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Atwoods or Tractor supply used to carry a 12v water pump with water hose connections in and out. I don't know if they still do or not. Hook it to your truck battery, put a hose from your water tank to the pump and then a hose from the pump to your trailer and it should work. I have one and use it some on the farm. I don't need it all the time, but sometimes it comes in handy.
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